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How I would Kick off the Rebuild

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Équipe: 2021-22 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 8 août 2021
Publié: 8 août 2021
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SJS
  1. Lysell, Fabian [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Hertl, Tomas (2 800 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Do you think I could get Lysell and a first? I rated Lysell as the fourth best player in 2021, but clearly NHL GMs do not
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  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
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His contract is the reason for little value
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  1. Connolly, Brett
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CHI)
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  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
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Not happening unless Chicago thinks they're really gonna be competitive. So don't take this trade too seriously
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    3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
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    Labanc slander will not be tolerated in this household. He scored EV points at basically the same rate as Trocheck, and better than Niedereiter Staal and Svech

    Fast is solely a cap relief move. If the Canes can make it work without him or a dif player, lmk
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    8 août 2021 à 10 h 22
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    You are not getting Lysell. And B’s only have 1m in cap space.

    1st and Debrusk with mid level 3rd piece, B’s are in.
    8 août 2021 à 10 h 30
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    Doubt Sweeney is giving up Lysell in a trade for hertl. Debrusk, Moore, and a first might make some sense
    8 août 2021 à 10 h 41
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    Just drop Fast... Carolina have 17 mil in cap space
    8 août 2021 à 10 h 43
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    Lysell + 1st wouldn’t work while you seem to be a bit high on Lysell, he should’ve gone around 10
    8 août 2021 à 10 h 55
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    Also, Labanc is not producing at the same rate as trocheck, and is not producing more than Svechnikov, Nino, and Staal. Labanc would be an upgrade over Fast, but Fast is able to score about 30 points consistently without even playing a full NHL season yet.

    Fast is cost controlled and is playing well for us. Unless SJ is willing to retain salary, Canes pass.
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    8 août 2021 à 11 h 1
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    Zero chance LeBanc gets a 1st, from any team, much less CAR.
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    8 août 2021 à 11 h 25
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    Doubt Sweeney is giving up Lysell in a trade for hertl. Debrusk, Moore, and a first might make some sense


    Moore is a cap dump that will cost ~debrusk-a little to move (something around a 3rd imo). A late 1st plus a late 3rd doesnt get hertl at full salary let alone retained. I think (if he would waive) youd be better off trying to move Coyle and turn him into a 2C.
    Agree on Lysell though hes not going anywhere just yet (unless its an Eichel deal).
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    8 août 2021 à 11 h 34
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    Quoting: UBS_ARENA
    Moore is a cap dump that will cost ~debrusk-a little to move (something around a 3rd imo). A late 1st plus a late 3rd doesnt get hertl at full salary let alone retained. I think (if he would waive) youd be better off trying to move Coyle and turn him into a 2C.
    Agree on Lysell though hes not going anywhere just yet (unless its an Eichel deal).


    Debrusk has way more value to boston than a 3rd round pick.
    8 août 2021 à 11 h 39
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    Debrusk has way more value to boston than a 3rd round pick.


    Agreed his value is moving moore plus a 3rd round pick. As I wrote that post i knew it might be confusing.
    8 août 2021 à 11 h 41
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    You are not getting Lysell. And B’s only have 1m in cap space.

    1st and Debrusk with mid level 3rd piece, B’s are in.


    Sorry but mid-level prospects don't return top line C's. Lol its not close.
    8 août 2021 à 11 h 43
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    Agreed his value is moving moore plus a 3rd round pick. As I wrote that post i knew it might be confusing.


    My point is i think he has more value to the Bruins than he does on the trade market, so he likely won’t be moved.
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    8 août 2021 à 11 h 47
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    Quoting: crankshaft
    Sorry but mid-level prospects don't return top line C's. Lol its not close.


    Mid level prospect is the 3rd piece. Jesus. 🙄
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    8 août 2021 à 11 h 48
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    Mid level prospect is the 3rd piece. Jesus. 🙄


    And when the other two pieces are just turds then that only amplifies the third piece which needs to be gold to make it considerable.
    8 août 2021 à 11 h 52
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    Quoting: UBS_ARENA
    Moore is a cap dump that will cost ~debrusk-a little to move (something around a 3rd imo). A late 1st plus a late 3rd doesnt get hertl at full salary let alone retained. I think (if he would waive) youd be better off trying to move Coyle and turn him into a 2C.
    Agree on Lysell though hes not going anywhere just yet (unless its an Eichel deal).



    Lol not using Debrusk to move Moore. Moore is overpaid, double what he should be, but at 2.75 he’s not a burden and despite what people think, is a serviceable 3rd pair d man when on the ice. They are far better off burying him and saving half his cap and have him for depth than they are making a bad trade to dump him.
    8 août 2021 à 11 h 53
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    And when the other two pieces are just turds then that only amplifies the third piece which needs to be gold to make it considerable.



    Cool, 1st round pick in a deep draft and a wing that has averaged 22g per 82 games. Turds. Got it. 🙄
    8 août 2021 à 12 h 1
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    Lol not using Debrusk to move Moore. Moore is overpaid, double what he should be, but at 2.75 he’s not a burden and despite what people think, is a serviceable 3rd pair d man when on the ice. They are far better off burying him and saving half his cap and have him for depth than they are making a bad trade to dump him.


    I wasnt suggesting that they should. I was just analyzing his propoaed trade and showing him that the value wasnt there. Read the whole conversation dont just take one post out of context.
    8 août 2021 à 12 h 21
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    Labanc is a good player but a first is a quick no from the Canes. He’d slot in nicely into the top 9 but not at that price. If that’s what it costs to go after him would rather go after somebody like Forsberg or even Tara and add a bit to the offer.

    He’s not in the same tier as Troch or Svech, Staal does so much more than just score points (but even there he was terrific last year). Nino and Labanc I can be convinced are in the same ballpark.
    8 août 2021 à 14 h 11
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    I’m asking for 1st and prospect (one of Lysell, Studnicka, Beecher). If not, no deal.
    8 août 2021 à 14 h 15
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    Quoting: FunMustBeAlways
    I’m asking for 1st and prospect (one of Lysell, Studnicka, Beecher). If not, no deal.


    it would have to be Lysell for me. Studnicka and Beecher aren't very promising.
    8 août 2021 à 14 h 22
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    it would have to be Lysell for me. Studnicka and Beecher aren't very promising.


    I have my reservations about Lysell too but I don’t disagree. Unfortunately the B’s don’t have many good prospects.
    9 août 2021 à 10 h 37
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Just drop Fast... Carolina have 17 mil in cap space


    With Svech and other RFAs to sign...
    9 août 2021 à 10 h 50
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    Quoting: jfrojelin
    With Svech and other RFAs to sign...


    Carolina only have 1 RFA.... and it's Svech

    They can't sign Wells because they already have 6 goalies under contract. Can't sign Korshkov, he just signed in the KHL. Lajoie isn't worth any deal you can't bury.
     
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