If it were to happen this how I’d view it

Connor Brown

Kailer Yamamoto Warren Foegele 2022 first

We have more cap space than any other team

Of course, Ottawa can afford his ask.

What are you talking about??



What evidence do you have to suggest I'm a total fanboy?

I'll wait.



The fact that the 1st is for 2023 and not 2022 alone would result in Dorion refusing.



I said:

1. Turn the 2023 1st into a 2022 1st.

2. Swap out Lavoie for Yamamoto

3. No lottery protection (there isn't any in the original trade).


You said 1 hour ago:

1. I have zero problems doing that.

2. Done.

3. No take backs lol


You said in your last comment 1 hour later:

1. Be realistic not a total fanboy.

2. But dont get crazy silly with the asks lol


o_O

I think the concerns regarding Edmonton's goaltending are based on Mike Smith's age and Mikko Koskinen's struggles with consistency.

While Smith has proven streaky throughout his career, he was among the top-5 goaltenders in the league last season. He may experience a bit of a regression, but he is in great condition and there is no reason to believe he is not capable of offering above average goaltending next season, if his workload is reasonable. Koskinen suffered inconsistencies last season, and that belies the stretches during which he was a very effective goaltender. Oiler fans should hope that Smith stays healthy, therefore allowing Koskinen to carry a workload he is comfortable with. The big Finn is playing out the final year of his contract and has to understand that his GM has made several attempts to move him in favor of another goaltender. Perhaps those factors will give him a bit of extra motivation to overcome his past struggles.

That's a pretty bed deal for the Oilers. Turris can be buried for the last year of his deal and Kassian has a tiny bit of value (ironically, for the reasons you mentioned regarding Yamamoto) and won't require 2 prospects + 2 picks to move.

But I love your username.

You have that cap space only in this moment. Tkachuk and Batherson need deals NOW. SUBTRACT that from the 29ish mil. And then Norris, Formenton , Paul, Brown, Branstrom, next offseason and then Stutzle , Bernard-Docker, Pinto, Zub and others . All Before or at the same time as Brown. Are they going to let the youth walk to sign Brown who will be turning 30 a few months into that season. I mean how long have you watched the Sens and Melnyk at work recently. Take your blinders off. He will be gone. Via trade or by his own accord. The sens are my 2nd Favorite team from the moment they came into the league. I grew up in Ottawa. Ive watched the Sens dismantled time and time again. Its a sad movie burned into my memory bank. The deal helps both my teams. Could care less if YOU like it or not lol. I think Dorion would pull the trigger. Like i said, Keep Forsberg and EDM could add an additional smaller piece. But it makes perfect sense for both franchises in their current states. And there was never any mention at any point of lottery protection?? I dont care which 1st. I deemed the 23 more valuable so included. And Yams is small and i personally would not be upset with moving on from him. BUTTTTT it wouldn't happen. Theyd never include him. And yes, you are NOT being realistic. Your responses prove your fandom. Not a shot. Every person on here thinks theyre a GM and they know better. When in actual fact ive never seen a posting with Universal approval. Not once. And likely will never happen. Every team has fans that complain about pretty much every deal real or in this case, Fake !!

A small portion of Turris can be buried. And for the ****e team Chicago was , i noticed Vins plus 2 and dozen points in 17 games. But yes id prefer a bigger player in return. Maybe the final year of Colin Miller. I mean id sooner keep kass . Like the guy. Hate the contract for 3 years. 1 i could stomach. And Thanks on the username props

A small portion? His salary is $1.65M and $1.125M of that (68%) can be buried. That leaves just $525k cap hit for 1 year - not worth paying someone else to take IMO. I'd rather have him there as injury cover.

Some of you guys are funny. I may need to slap on some depends from all the pee tinkling out from this laughter.
Last 2 seasons
C.Brown
127GP, 77pts (-5) .6 PPG AGE 27
K.Yamamoto
79 GP, 47pts (+26) .59 PPG AGE 22.

It would NEVER EVER happen

Id sooner be free of him entirely, he was nothing but a liability every time he stepped foot on the ice last year. But to each his own. And it isnt really a paying for him to be moved deal. Its more Kassians contract. Just tossed him in. 2 birds, 1 stone. Id sooner spend a bit of the savings on a Bozak type for the year

You don't need to write a whole novel to whine and complain

Its so much more fun for the readers 🤣

Here's to hoping it doesn't have the opposite effect the second a bad glove side goal sneaks in early in his first game. All your points could be weighing on him mentally. Some crumble, some thrive. Lets see which he is

Yep.

I bet he wouldn’t be much better if he was in a Tampa jersey. I posted all the seasons, because that’s what he played. He’s not as good as people think. His 2019-2020 season was a fluke. If you can’t repeat, then it’s a fluke. Maybe you should try and see if he has ever repeated it. Oh wait… he hasn’t ahah, that’s funny. I guess it’s because he’s not as good as people think. Yours is not closer to the truth because it’s opinion based hahah! Funny that you think there is only one opinion.

I could actually care less about the advanced stats honestly. And that is just my opinion, he’s never been the best, and never will be anything other than a backup. He’s not better than those guys. If people actually used the eye test with the stats, they would see how good players really are.

These aren't advanced stats. Your opinion is useless to anyone if its not based on factual evidence.

In your opinion maybe.

That sort of defeats the purpose of the trade. This is meant to help Edmonton now, and they are willing to give a RW prospect nearly as good as those two, and maybe better, and who will be on the same timeline as JBD, Sanderson, and Kleven, and the 1st gives Ottawa a lot of flexibility in moving up in the first round of the 2022 draft.

I contend that Lavoie and the 1st could be as valuable as Puljujarvi and Yamamoto in 2-3 seasons, which is irrelevant since I doubt they trade them for Brown, but they could trade Lavoie and the first.

The thinking here is, if Tkachuk and Batherson get $10MM-$12MM, and losing the $3.5MM for Brown, having Koskinen's cap for a year actually helps Ottawa stay above the floor enough to make other moves. It's just one season, and next season Norris, Formenton, and Brannstrom get their raises when Koskinen comes off the books.

Don't listen to that guy, lol

I gave up on him. He doesn't like facts he thinks his opinion is the end all

I have him on ignore, and that 282 guy as well.

You'll get good feedback from Alpine and PLDGY, as well as others that haven't commented yet.

The Sens side of this trade Link

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/500578?post_id=2605313

Hey that was fun. Thanks for the link. And that Owen fellow is lost

Idk just seems like the trade causes more problems than it fixes. Why trade Brown now and have to pick a Koskinen cap dump up when you could just not trade Brown at all? Or at the very least trade him next season when there’s one year left on his deal and Melnyk’s not stuck paying 4m for nothing 🤷🏽‍♂️

From Edmonton’s perspective I get it, upgrade on the wing where they need it and the cap hit is manageable. Dump Koskinens contract and bring back a goalie who might even be better with almost no cap hit. Pay futures that likely won’t touch the NHL for 2-5 years.

Realistically that 2023 first is the swing piece and I’d put money in it turning out more like the first the Sens got for Duchene than the first they got for Karlsson. Not a bad trade by any means but not my favorite, that’s all