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Rielly trade ideas

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Date de création initiale: 3 août 2021
Publié: 3 août 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
All trades are under the assumption that Rielly signs a long term extension with the team, making the return a bit more than usual. Also, the trade/free agency market has been crazy for defenceman. Rielly is a top pair D man so he should fetch a lot. Seth Jones who is worse than Rielly and signed a bigger cap hit got Boqvist, a first and a first round pick swap. Rielly should get more but he wont.
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Rielly, Morgan15 000 000 $
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TOR
  1. Coronato, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  2. 2022 1e round pick (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Coronato played for the Chicago steel and the leafs hired the former GM of the steel. Coronato is also going to harvard where Abruzzese goes. They also pick up an extra first (potentially 2 seconds) to either trade at the deadline or select another good prospect.
CGY
  1. Rielly, Morgan
Détails additionnels:
Calgary gets a Giodano replacement for a prospect and a top ten protected first. If the first lands in the top 10 of the draft the leafs get the 2 second round picks. Calgary gets a top pair D man for nobody off the current roster.
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TOR
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. Brink, Bobby [Liste de réserve]
  3. 2022 1e round pick (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
This is the Kyle Dubas package of all Dubas packages. A former Soo Grey Hound and a forward that is 5'8". With a good medical staff the leafs hope to help Frost get good again. Plus with the development staff hopefully they can make a player out of Brink.
PHI
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Rielly, Morgan
Détails additionnels:
Rielly makes a top 4 of Provorov, Ellis, Riso and Rielly. That is a really good top 4 that can compete with most teams. Plus they just gave up a first for Risto who sucks and rielly is signifigantly better. Engvall gives them so good young center depth. Frost just missed an entire season because of shoulder surgery and Bobby Brink is a good prospect, but rarely do 5'8" forwards work without elite skill and he was under a point per game in college for 2 years.
3.
TOR
  1. Curran, Kodie
  2. Terry, Troy
  3. 2022 1e round pick (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
The leafs pick up Curran who more than likely plays on the Marlies but could play in the NHL in a pinch. Troy terry, who is good friends with auston matthews, can compliment one of the big lines well on a reasonable contract. They also pick up a first round pick in the trade to keep or flip at the deadline.
ANA
  1. Rielly, Morgan
Détails additionnels:
Rielly is only 27 so he fits the timeline well enough to still be good when Anaheim hopes to be competitive. He also immediatly becomes The ducks best D man (maybe Lindholm). The leafs are also helping the ducks by taking on Currans contract so the money tight ducks dont have to pay 1 million for an AHL d man. the cost is Troy Terry, who is good, but he is a 24 year old that has never scored above half a point per game in the nhl. A first round pick that is top 10 protected for next season. its a middle 6 forward, an 30 year old AHL player and a first round pick for a top pair D. I think that is very reasonable.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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3 août 2021 à 19 h 21
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You’re heavily overvaluing Reilly. He’s worth a first and third at most. Teams aren’t gonna trade a first and A-B prospects for a rental….
3 août 2021 à 19 h 28
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we need a dmen back lol
3 août 2021 à 19 h 31
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I'd rather keep the prospects and play Sanheim in the top for where he should be playing. Also, with York and Zamula on the way trading for another LHD makes no sense what so ever
3 août 2021 à 19 h 37
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Calgary already replaced Giordano with Zadorov, Rielly isnt worth remotely near that
3 août 2021 à 19 h 44
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You’re heavily overvaluing Reilly. He’s worth a first and third at most. Teams aren’t gonna trade a first and A-B prospects for a rental….


Literally read the users description before commenting...

Also, Philly just paid a 1st, 2nd, and a NHL defenceman for a 2 year rental that's far, far, far, worse than Rielly. A 1st and a 3rd is pretty insulting.
3 août 2021 à 19 h 50
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Ducks easily decline, they have no use or need for a 27 year old pending UFA

The logic you put for why ANA makes that trade is insanely flawed and almost completely false
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3 août 2021 à 19 h 56
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It’s funny how everyone values players on here.

Ristolainen can’t play defence, he fetched 13th overall and a 2nd rounder.

Jones also can’t play defence, he fetched two firsts (one of which was 11th overall) and a top prospect in Boqvist.

Everyone on here is so quick to say “Rielly isn’t worth that” but in reality, he is.
Rielly isn’t all that amazing of a defender but is at least on par if not better than both of those two. He is also miles better offensively than Risto and at least on par with Jones.
Now, I’m not saying Morgan Rielly is this amazing dman that should demand a king’s ransom but he would bring in something near Jones.

A source on Twitter (that has not been revealed, so we can’t be absolutely certain of it’s reliability but we can use some common sense) stated that Morgan Rielly’s current value would be near Jones’, 2 firsts and a good prospect.

You can argue all you want but it is true. Morgan Rielly is not “only worth a first and a third.” He is a guy who plays top pair and can produce offensively at an elite level, despite his struggles this year.
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3 août 2021 à 19 h 59
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Quoting: Juiceman
You’re heavily overvaluing Reilly. He’s worth a first and third at most. Teams aren’t gonna trade a first and A-B prospects for a rental….


That is exactly what he's was worth. A 1st and big prospect per insiders /execs etc. With market now idk what he's worth but he's certainly worth more than that now
3 août 2021 à 20 h 1
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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
It’s funny how everyone values players on here.

Ristolainen can’t play defence, he fetched 13th overall and a 2nd rounder.

Jones also can’t play defence, he fetched two firsts (one of which was 11th overall) and a top prospect in Boqvist.

Everyone on here is so quick to say “Rielly isn’t worth that” but in reality, he is.
Rielly isn’t all that amazing of a defender but is at least on par if not better than both of those two. He is also miles better offensively than Risto and at least on par with Jones.
Now, I’m not saying Morgan Rielly is this amazing dman that should demand a king’s ransom but he would bring in something near Jones.

A source on Twitter (that has not been revealed, so we can’t be absolutely certain of it’s reliability but we can use some common sense) stated that Morgan Rielly’s current value would be near Jones’, 2 firsts and a good prospect.

You can argue all you want but it is true. Morgan Rielly is not “only worth a first and a third.” He is a guy who plays top pair and can produce offensively at an elite level, despite his struggles this year.


Idk if he's worth 2 1st and a prospect. (Would Love if he is) jones is a RD which is more sought and value than LD. But it's criminal how undervalue people have Rielly on here
3 août 2021 à 20 h 3
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Thing about Rielly is he has a 10 team trade list

I think the flames trade is what a trade would look like prior to market being screwed now idk. Do I think flames would do it no.
The ducks one I think could work but that pick will need to be top 3 protected atleast.
The flyers one I think need a pick going to Philly (not 1st or 2nd) or a b prospect like durzak.

This is all going off the article saying he's worth a 1st and High prospect
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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
It’s funny how everyone values players on here.

Ristolainen can’t play defence, he fetched 13th overall and a 2nd rounder.

Jones also can’t play defence, he fetched two firsts (one of which was 11th overall) and a top prospect in Boqvist.

Everyone on here is so quick to say “Rielly isn’t worth that” but in reality, he is.
Rielly isn’t all that amazing of a defender but is at least on par if not better than both of those two. He is also miles better offensively than Risto and at least on par with Jones.
Now, I’m not saying Morgan Rielly is this amazing dman that should demand a king’s ransom but he would bring in something near Jones.

A source on Twitter (that has not been revealed, so we can’t be absolutely certain of it’s reliability but we can use some common sense) stated that Morgan Rielly’s current value would be near Jones’, 2 firsts and a good prospect.

You can argue all you want but it is true. Morgan Rielly is not “only worth a first and a third.” He is a guy who plays top pair and can produce offensively at an elite level, despite his struggles this year.


This to a tee 👌🏻

The only reason why users on here say he isn't worth that or is "only worth a 1st and a 3rd" is because of the Toronto factor - people love to hate on Leafs players and try to make them seem less good than they really are. In reality it doesn't matter what they think because the comparables are out there
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Quoting: Juiceman
You’re heavily overvaluing Reilly. He’s worth a first and third at most. Teams aren’t gonna trade a first and A-B prospects for a rental….


I see you missed the Risto trade
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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
It’s funny how everyone values players on here.

Ristolainen can’t play defence, he fetched 13th overall and a 2nd rounder.

Jones also can’t play defence, he fetched two firsts (one of which was 11th overall) and a top prospect in Boqvist.

Everyone on here is so quick to say “Rielly isn’t worth that” but in reality, he is.
Rielly isn’t all that amazing of a defender but is at least on par if not better than both of those two. He is also miles better offensively than Risto and at least on par with Jones.
Now, I’m not saying Morgan Rielly is this amazing dman that should demand a king’s ransom but he would bring in something near Jones.

A source on Twitter (that has not been revealed, so we can’t be absolutely certain of it’s reliability but we can use some common sense) stated that Morgan Rielly’s current value would be near Jones’, 2 firsts and a good prospect.

You can argue all you want but it is true. Morgan Rielly is not “only worth a first and a third.” He is a guy who plays top pair and can produce offensively at an elite level, despite his struggles this year.


You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else on this form. On that flames trade, I can’t see them giving up what is basically 2 fist round picks for him. Flyers maybe, but since they have done other moves on defence I doubt they would. Anaheim isn’t in a place to do a trade like this since they are not in a contending position.
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Quoting: BigSkyCountry
You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else on this form. On that flames trade, I can’t see them giving up what is basically 2 fist round picks for him. Flyers maybe, but since they have done other moves on defence I doubt they would. Anaheim isn’t in a place to do a trade like this since they are not in a contending position.


I will agree that these three teams specifically probably don’t get Rielly, none of them need him.
3 août 2021 à 20 h 50
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I think Reilly is like Tyson Barrie. If Barrie went to a team, let’s say for example purposes only, like the Nashville Predators, where they really don’t have that true superstar forward yet. And before you say that they do in one of Johansen, Duchene, or Forsberg, they have all been outperformed by Roman Josi for the past couple of seasons. If Barrie wasn’t able to pass to McDavid and Draisaitl, how well would he perform? The same goes for Reilly. How well would he perform if he wasn’t able to pass to Matthews, Marner, Tavares, or Nylander? It would most likely be safe to say that he would not perform as well without that superstar finishing from the forwards.
3 août 2021 à 20 h 51
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Quoting: Salzy
Ducks easily decline, they have no use or need for a 27 year old pending UFA

The logic you put for why ANA makes that trade is insanely flawed and almost completely false


Im not sure if this changes your opinion on the trade but i said in the description that these trades are under the assumption that he signs an extension as part of the trade!
3 août 2021 à 20 h 52
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I see you missed the Risto trade


I didn’t miss it, Philly just got fleeced. No other team with a brain would’ve done the trade….
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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
I will agree that these three teams specifically probably don’t get Rielly, none of them need him.


Im curious what teams you think could use Rielly than?
3 août 2021 à 20 h 55
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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
It’s funny how everyone values players on here.

Ristolainen can’t play defence, he fetched 13th overall and a 2nd rounder.

Jones also can’t play defence, he fetched two firsts (one of which was 11th overall) and a top prospect in Boqvist.

Everyone on here is so quick to say “Rielly isn’t worth that” but in reality, he is.
Rielly isn’t all that amazing of a defender but is at least on par if not better than both of those two. He is also miles better offensively than Risto and at least on par with Jones.
Now, I’m not saying Morgan Rielly is this amazing dman that should demand a king’s ransom but he would bring in something near Jones.

A source on Twitter (that has not been revealed, so we can’t be absolutely certain of it’s reliability but we can use some common sense) stated that Morgan Rielly’s current value would be near Jones’, 2 firsts and a good prospect.

You can argue all you want but it is true. Morgan Rielly is not “only worth a first and a third.” He is a guy who plays top pair and can produce offensively at an elite level, despite his struggles this year.


I agree. I think it is the thing where everyone overvalues their own guys and undervalues others, heck I fall victim to that too. But looking at what Jones and Risto got, i tried building these trades off of that. I figured that because Jones as more name brand i guess Rielly wouldnt be valued the same as him. But he is definitely better than Risto, but risto is big and right handed (the things nhl teams overvaule). So I felt that trade would be a good comparison considering that i said these trades are under the assumption he signed an extension.
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3 août 2021 à 20 h 56
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I didn’t miss it, Philly just got fleeced. No other team with a brain would’ve done the trade….


There was multiple teams interested in risto so i think over teams would have gotten fleeced. Both Risto and Jones got a lot and both are worse than Rielly. Now both are tall right handed d men who are overvalued because of that so i tried adjusting to the place accordingly.
3 août 2021 à 21 h 0
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Quoting: Juiceman
You’re heavily overvaluing Reilly. He’s worth a first and third at most. Teams aren’t gonna trade a first and A-B prospects for a rental….


If you read the description is said these trades are under the assumption that he signed an extension. So he is not a rental. Also, that is definitely not his value. He is a top pair dman, those cost more than a first and 3rd. Look at the recent trades for inferior players
3 août 2021 à 21 h 5
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Quoting: EnKay29
If you read the description is said these trades are under the assumption that he signed an extension. So he is not a rental. Also, that is definitely not his value. He is a top pair dman, those cost more than a first and 3rd. Look at the recent trades for inferior players


Philly got fleeced. Jones was an overpay but the Hawks also got a late first round pick with Jones. Just cause some teams made bad trades doesn’t mean others should…
3 août 2021 à 21 h 10
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Quoting: TrueCanuck
Literally read the users description before commenting...

Also, Philly just paid a 1st, 2nd, and a NHL defenceman for a 2 year rental that's far, far, far, worse than Rielly. A 1st and a 3rd is pretty insulting.


It's the rule on here. All Leaf players are worth nothing.
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3 août 2021 à 21 h 10
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Quoting: Juiceman
Philly got fleeced. Jones was an overpay but the Hawks also got a late first round pick with Jones. Just cause some teams made bad trades doesn’t mean others should…


Instead everyone should fleece the leafs because it's the rule on here.
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3 août 2021 à 21 h 11
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Instead everyone should fleece the leafs because it's the rule on here.


Well, only if its Steve Yzerman making the trades…
 
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