Post Marner team

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Créé par: Leafsfaninvancity

Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 9 juill. 2021

Publié: 9 juill. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Kerfoot taken in expansion draft. I've looked at the ESPN team rankings for prospects and which tiers each falls into which category and I think my trades are fair.
Wings get an ELITE playmaker in Marner that's also capable of putting up 30 goals BEFORE hitting his prime. Before you yell at your screen and type angry messages, go watch Marner highlights, look at his stats for the past three seasons, then re-evaluate what you're going to type. And Detroit has a ton of cap space aquiring a guy that just turned 24. So the trade is one of the best forwards in the league, 3 B level prospects, for an A prospect and a top 6 winger.

ESPN article https://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/story/_/id/30619753/ranking-nhl-prospect-pools-top-prospects-breakouts-pipeline-status-more-all-31-teams-2020-21. I'll do a team for 2022 as well.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler		5	4 500 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Hyman, Zach	5	4 500 000 $
Zajac, Travis	1	1 500 000 $
Andersen, Frederik	2	3 000 000 $
Bogosian, Zach	1	950 000 $

Transactions

TOR

Bertuzzi, Tyler [Droits de RFA]
Seider, Moritz

DET

Hirvonen, Roni [Liste de réserve]
Liljegren, Timothy
Marner, Mitchell
Niemelä, Topi [Liste de réserve]

Détails additionnels:

Liljegren, Niemela, and Hirvonen are considered B prospects accoridng to ESPN.

TOR

Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (NJD)

NJD

Dermott, Travis

Détails additionnels:

Doesn't have to be New Jersey, can be any team.

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	73 176 783 $	0 $	850 000 $	8 323 217 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 7	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 3	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 3
Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 3	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 4	Bertuzzi, Tyler 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Mikheyev, Ilya 1 645 000 $1 645 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Zajac, Travis 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ C UFA	Simmonds, Wayne 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 2
Engvall, Pierre 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Brooks, Adam 725 000 $725 000 $ C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 1	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 3	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 3	Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus 894 167 $894 167 $ DG UFA - 1	Seider, Moritz 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 3	Andersen, Frederik 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ G UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Semyonov, Kirill 825 000 $825 000 $ C UFA - 1		Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 2
Bogosian, Zach 950 000 $950 000 $ DD UFA - 3

9 juill. 2021 à 21 h 23

HappyKampfers

Drover006

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Unrelated but niemela a B? I kinda of understand lillypad since it's taking some time but that just on Keefe not knowing when to use him. Both are better than a B.

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9 juill. 2021 à 21 h 25

Lancebmx

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I would rather take less, and not give up Seider, but I know he's the main piece in this deal. It is Actually not to bad for value wise. Just doesn't make sense for Detroit, marner might have one year left of his deal when the wings are a playoff team, then no guarantees that he reups with them. I think I would prefer team control of Seider for the next 6+ years or whatever it is. But I do love they idea of marner coming to Detroit.

9 juill. 2021 à 21 h 26

ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: DroverD2

Unrelated but niemela a B? I kinda of understand lillypad since it's taking some time but that just on Keefe not knowing when to use him. Both are better than a B.

In my eyes Liljegren is a B+ / A-

same with Niemela. He won dman of the tournament at the world juniors. Now obviously that doesn’t make him the best under 20 dman in the world but the guy is still a really good player.

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9 juill. 2021 à 21 h 27

GenXHockey

Formerly Jamiepo

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You should get your prospect reports from better sources. This trade is absolutely disgusting.

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9 juill. 2021 à 21 h 32

HappyKampfers

Drover006

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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart

I think B+ is fair. Think he makes team this year hopefully. Niemela tho defo A/A-

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9 juill. 2021 à 21 h 34

Terry_AkiSauce

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This is terrible for the Leafs

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9 juill. 2021 à 21 h 42

buffbry

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Wins pass, 0% chance wings trade seider

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9 juill. 2021 à 21 h 42

Leafsfaninvancity

Démarrer sujet

Banni

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Quoting: GenXHockey

aedoran …. This is why no one can trade with Detroit fans….

Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce

This is terrible for the Leafs

Quoting: GenXHockey

You should get your prospect reports from better sources. This trade is absolutely disgusting.

Seider is cornerstone type of talent. Freeing up 10 million while aquiring a top 6 winger in Bertuzzi does alot for this team. I really can't make everyone happy.

9 juill. 2021 à 21 h 51

GenXHockey

Formerly Jamiepo

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Quoting: Leafsfaninvancity

Seider is cornerstone type of talent. Freeing up 10 million while aquiring a top 6 winger in Bertuzzi does alot for this team. I really can't make everyone happy.

Sorry but your “cornerstone piece” has never been on the ice for a single second of nhl hockey.

You do realize we could trade Matthews for 5th nylander for a 7th and marner for future considerations and get 30m in cap space…. Although the cup champs were over the cap by 18m so maybe cap space can’t buy a cup.

9 juill. 2021 à 21 h 57

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thefranzen

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do you know who the detroit GM is?

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9 juill. 2021 à 22 h 5

#11

KingSalming21

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Tyler Bertuzzi - 26 years old, bad back, never broken 50 points.

Exactly the piece we were missing ... 🙄

9 juill. 2021 à 23 h 5

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mikearky

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Quoting: GenXHockey

And before Marner or Marthews played one game they were considered cornerstone pieces for the Leafs. Yes they were high picks, but so was Seider. I am not saying he is the same player, please do not assume I am saying that, but a young big defenseman who was the top defense man in the Swedish Hockey league is a pretty good indication he will be good if not excellent.

He was the 1st pick of a Yzerman lead Wings team, and he has a pretty good track record of drafting, from his Tampa administration. He is young and will have growing pains, but he has shown in a men's league he can play. I just do not see Yzerman tesding him, as was excited to select him in the draft and seems to be the right choice.

Yes he has never played in the NHL, but can not see Wings trading for Marner and can not see them trading Seider.

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10 juill. 2021 à 0 h 27

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GenXHockey

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Quoting: mikearky

Absolutely no knock on Seider, I think he will be a very good nhl defencemen. But s he the cornerstone of a cup contending team? No… is he a piece we need right now with Brodie Holl liljegren and Dermott on the right side? No. Leafs are better off keeping liljegren and niemela than chasing seider. Not to mention giving up Hirvonen and marner for Bertuzzi.

Matthews was a cornerstone… came out 4 months after being drafted scored 4 goals in his first game and went on to win the Calder.

Marner and nylander are nice pieces to start building with but Matthews is the engine.

10 juill. 2021 à 3 h 11

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Billy12Bob

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Detroit declines, neither player is on the block.

10 juill. 2021 à 12 h 25

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aedoran

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Quoting: GenXHockey

aedoran …. This is why no one can trade with Detroit fans….

Why is because you have no idea what you are talking about and I pointed it out?

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