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Danault should make the same as Chiarot and Edmundson

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Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 23 juin 2021
Publié: 23 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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If you prefer to compare Danault to other shutdown centers, he should make more or less the same as Adam Lowry. This contract is $1.25mm more in total salary.
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23 juin 2021 à 22 h 32
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Nope
5.25 mil at least
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23 juin 2021 à 22 h 35
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Nope
5.25 mil at least


Which comps are you basing him on?
23 juin 2021 à 22 h 41
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Which comps are you basing him on?


He already turned down 5x5
23 juin 2021 à 22 h 43
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He already turned down 5x5


No he didn’t. That report was b.s. the Habs never made him a contract offer. Confirmed by the Danault camp.
23 juin 2021 à 22 h 45
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Pageau 5X6
Nelson 6X6
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23 juin 2021 à 22 h 47
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Pageau 5X6
Nelson 6X6


Two pre Covid contracts for players who are both significantly better offensively than Danault. Try again.
23 juin 2021 à 22 h 48
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No he didn’t. That report was b.s. the Habs never made him a contract offer. Confirmed by the Danault camp.


He was 6th in selke votes and his performance this playoffs proves he’s easily worth 5 million if not more
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23 juin 2021 à 22 h 52
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He was 6th in selke votes and his performance this playoffs proves he’s easily worth 5 million if not more


Based on what? Show me a defensive specialist who makes $5mm who doesn’t provide much offense in the playoffs.

$3.5mm is the number.
23 juin 2021 à 22 h 55
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Based on what? Show me a defensive specialist who makes $5mm who doesn’t provide much offense in the playoffs.


Argue all you want with me it’s not gonna change the reality that Danault will get over 5 million in free agency I urge you to look at other mtl ac gm you are the only one that has his valued this low
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23 juin 2021 à 22 h 56
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I just clicked the last 5 mtl ac gm and they ALL have Danault over 5 million go argue with them not me
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23 juin 2021 à 22 h 59
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Danault is going to push the high 4's, maybe someone desperate pays 5 for him. 3.5M is the money you pay an average 3C... if Danault is really a decent/good 2C, as Habs fans like to claim, you're going to have to pay him like it.
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23 juin 2021 à 23 h 0
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Argue all you want with me it’s not gonna change the reality that Danault will get over 5 million in free agency I urge you to look at other mtl ac gm you are the only one that has his valued this low


You’re arguing for conformity ahead of providing actual reasons for your thinking?

Doesn’t make me wrong. Could another team offer him more? Sure. It’ll probably take a year before they regret it.

The Leafs offered Mike Komisarek $4.5mm, remember that?

Whoever pays Danault $5mm isn’t going to be any good.
23 juin 2021 à 23 h 1
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I just clicked the last 5 mtl ac gm and they ALL have Danault over 5 million go argue with them not me


People join cults for similar reasons. Come on man, everyone’s doing it.

And for the record, you’re arguing with me. This is my post.
23 juin 2021 à 23 h 4
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Danault is going to push the high 4's, maybe someone desperate pays 5 for him. 3.5M is the money you pay an average 3C... if Danault is really a decent/good 2C, as Habs fans like to claim, you're going to have to pay him like it.


5x$3.25mm is the contract that Adam Lowry (described by TSN and sportsnet as the best 3C in the league) signed this season.

What are you basing your opinion on that it’s what an average 3C gets paid?
23 juin 2021 à 23 h 11
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Danault is going to push the high 4's, maybe someone desperate pays 5 for him. 3.5M is the money you pay an average 3C... if Danault is really a decent/good 2C, as Habs fans like to claim, you're going to have to pay him like it.


Danault has 1 goal in 32 career playoff games. He had a 40 game regular season goalless streak between last season and this year. Bergevin isn’t dumb, (can’t say the same for a lot of the ac gms), and he knows that defensive centers are replaceable. If Danault wants more money, he can probably get it elsewhere, but it’ll be from a bad team with no real shot at winning.

$3.5mm is the right cap hit for him to stay in Montreal.
23 juin 2021 à 23 h 13
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Pageau 5X6
Nelson 6X6


Karlsson 5.9x8
Schenn 6.5x8

Bergevin better have the money ready as there could be a bidding war for him

probs gonna sign him to the original offer believe it was 5x6 or something or more money less term 6.25 x 4
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Karlsson 5.9x8
Schenn 6.5x8

Bergevin better have the money ready as there could be a bidding war for him

probs gonna sign him to the original offer believe it was 6.25x5 or something


You sound like you might as well be his agent.

Bergevin isn’t Dubas. If the player overreaches, he’ll just let him walk. Jake Evans is already at least 3/4 of the way to becoming Danault. Might even end up being better offensively when it’s all said and done. Also, a player like Nick Bonino would be able to replace most of what Danault would do the next 2 years at a fraction of the cost.

$3.5mm is the right number for Danault on this team. It’s up to him to decide whether or not he wants to be here.
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23 juin 2021 à 23 h 30
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You sound like you might as well be his agent.

Bergevin isn’t Dubas. If the player overreaches, he’ll just let him walk. Jake Evans is already at least 3/4 of the way to becoming Danault. Might even end up being better offensively when it’s all said and done. Also, a player like Nick Bonino would be able to replace most of what Danault would do the next 2 years at a fraction of the cost.

$3.5mm is the right number for Danault on this team. It’s up to him to decide whether or not he wants to be here.


you offer him 3.5 hes gone. Another competitor will offer him more and he will wish MTL fair well and leave
23 juin 2021 à 23 h 34
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you offer him 3.5 hes gone. Another competitor will offer him more and he will wish MTL fair well and leave


Just like the Leafs thinking was with Komisarek back in the day. How’d that work out for you?
23 juin 2021 à 23 h 43
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Just like the Leafs thinking was with Komisarek back in the day. How’d that work out for you?


Komisarek is not even a forward lul wrong comparison in its entirety. Dman often make money and provide little points. Its a gamble with them. Forwards especially centers make money and a good amount at that

Lets me put it simple so you can understand it

If Bergevin offers Danault 3.5x6 he and his agent will say thanks but no thanks and go to another competitive team
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23 juin 2021 à 23 h 44
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You sound like you might as well be his agent.

Bergevin isn’t Dubas. If the player overreaches, he’ll just let him walk. Jake Evans is already at least 3/4 of the way to becoming Danault. Might even end up being better offensively when it’s all said and done. Also, a player like Nick Bonino would be able to replace most of what Danault would do the next 2 years at a fraction of the cost.

$3.5mm is the right number for Danault on this team. It’s up to him to decide whether or not he wants to be here.


Wreckless, we all know 5M for Danault it’s too expensive, but he’s not just a 3C, he’s an Elite defensive Center who doesn’t make mistakes on the ice + very good at faceoffs. We all know 5M it’s too much and we will regret it after 2 years. But that’s the price too keep him. I wouldn’t personally with Evans & Poehling
23 juin 2021 à 23 h 45
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He will end up getting $5.5m X 6 in the end to stay in Mtl. That’s just logical at this point. Without him they would not have made it out of the first round. Anyone who knows anything about hockey will agree.
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23 juin 2021 à 23 h 47
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Wreckless, we all know 5M for Danault it’s too expensive, but he’s not just a 3C, he’s an Elite defensive Center who doesn’t make mistakes on the ice + very good at faceoffs. We all know 5M it’s too much and we will regret it after 2 years. But that’s the price too keep him. I wouldn’t personally with Evans & Poehling


I agree cause lets be honest

Bergevin offers him that contract this guys suggests hes gonna go yeah **** off

And from there Boston will sign him to replace Kreiji giving him his desired contract

which will result in Bergevin being ridiculed by the fanbase

and ownership firing him as a result

and every game against boston fans will be watching him win faceoffs resulting in Hall burying pucks behind price or allen
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Just for reference, 25-27 yo seasons (all +/- 1 year for their next contracts):
Danault: 205 games, 30g (.15g/g), 94a (.46 a/g), 124p (.6p/g), 49p/yr pace.
JPG: 184 games, 44g (.24g/g), 39a (.21a/g), 83p (.45 p/g), 37p/yr pace
Lowry: 179 games, 26(.15g/g), 31a (.17a/g), 57p (.32p/g), 26p/yr pace
Nelson: 245 games, 64g (.26g/g), 69a (.28 a/g), 133p (.54p/g), 44p/yr pace.
Henrique: 243 games, 74g (.3g/g), 66a (.27 a/g), 140p (.58p/g), 47.5p/yr pace

Danault is low on goal scoring, but the best for assists and points. 100k/point (decent baseline for FWDs) is a $5m/yr deal, and that's without the "center tax" teams pay.
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23 juin 2021 à 23 h 49
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You sound like you might as well be his agent.

Bergevin isn’t Dubas. If the player overreaches, he’ll just let him walk. Jake Evans is already at least 3/4 of the way to becoming Danault. Might even end up being better offensively when it’s all said and done. Also, a player like Nick Bonino would be able to replace most of what Danault would do the next 2 years at a fraction of the cost.

$3.5mm is the right number for Danault on this team. It’s up to him to decide whether or not he wants to be here.


Bonino couldn't even play center in MN this year...
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