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Armchair-GM
dim. à 14 h 21
Sujet:
Jake Allen how ya like me now Devils fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Why would NJD actively strive to give up a 2nd if they are not competing for the playoffs by trading allen to a contender? Unless said contender themselves is offering a 2nd for allen.</div></div>
That’s exactly the point, the pick would upgrade, because the Devils would get something in return for a trade.
The question basically becomes, would the rather have a 2nd and no 3rd (if they’re out of the playoffs) or two 3rds.
Honestly though, my guess is Jersey is a playoff team next year, and either Allen is the starter in Jersey, or he is traded to Calgary as part of the Markstrom deal, to be there starter over there, and he’s moved to a contender at the deadline as a depth option, in which case the Habs get the 2nd rounder that way.
We’ll see though, first of all he will need to stay healthy.
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Armchair-GM
ven. à 12 h 24
Sujet:
Jake Allen how ya like me now Devils fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>daws and schmid will still be waivers exempt next year. It was again, another key reason we brought in both kahkonen and allen.</div></div>
Allen needs to play, he’s a UFA, and needs a new contract. I’ll bet money an agreement has been made that he either plays, or they move him somewhere where he plays.
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Armchair-GM
ven. à 12 h 21
Sujet:
Jake Allen how ya like me now Devils fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Unlikely considering he was brought in to be the backup next year</div></div>
Looks like a starter to me. And to your point, you need space for Daws and Schmid.
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Armchair-GM
ven. à 12 h 19
Sujet:
Jake Allen how ya like me now Devils fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>NJD is still almost certainly going to bring in another guy to be the starter.
Between that guy, Daws, and Schmid, it's unlikely that Allen reaches 40 starts next year</div></div>
If Devils bring in another starter (ie Markstrom), then Allen goes the other way (and gets dealt to a contender at the TDL)
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Armchair-GM
ven. à 12 h 18
Sujet:
Jake Allen how ya like me now Devils fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>Hughes masterclass. I guess the retention makes it a not so bad contract but my gosh how will they get a 2nd rounder lol. I get he has had a good few games but no way this keeps up</div></div>
He just needs to play 40 games next year. Devils either make the playoffs next year, or they will trade him to someone who will.
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Armchair-GM
jeu. à 14 h 22
Sujet:
Geoff Molson gives Crosby an ownership stake in the Habs 2025
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>Don't think it's possible anyway.
Cap restricts compensation. You can't offer financial incentives in place of salary. It's circumvention.</div></div>
When there’s a will, there’s a way.
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Armchair-GM
19 mars à 20 h 3
Sujet:
Geoff Molson gives Crosby an ownership stake in the Habs 2025
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pens1991</b></div><div>The value of 95% (maybe even 100% honestly) of professional sports teams in North America are on a straight upward trajectory.
He has no connection to MTL other than growing up watching them and being a fan. He built his career and his name in Pittsburgh and idolized Mario who was the owner of the Penguins at the time (still own's a small portion of the team) and continues to follow in his footsteps in how he's carried himself around the sport of Hockey.
The Habs are also owned by a family, where as the Penguins are now owned by an entity. Family's will be less inclined to GIVE an outside individual ownership into something they own simply for publicity. (even if that person is Sidney Crosby) They are going to want that person to pay for ownership, not be given it for free. Where as an Entity like FSG would have less issue doing so. FSG could also offer much more to Crosby in the sports world in general as they continue building out their sports portfolio. He also loves Baseball, FSG can connect him to that world.
It's a fun dream you have though, it won't happen.</div></div>
Probably not. But maybe 😁
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Armchair-GM
18 mars à 1 h 49
Sujet:
Geoff Molson gives Crosby an ownership stake in the Habs 2025
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Huge_Caniac_Abe_Lincoln</b></div><div>I feel like the NHL would shut down a team providing partial ownership to a player as obvious cap circumvention.</div></div>
The league would be first in line to want to see this happen. It would create so much buzz in a hockey mad market, it would only be good for the league. And this would be a CBA issue for compensation. The league can’t do anything. Just like LTIR changes that are being speculated.
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Armchair-GM
18 mars à 1 h 48
Sujet:
Geoff Molson gives Crosby an ownership stake in the Habs 2025
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pens1991</b></div><div>FSG Would match that hands down.
Lebron James already has equity in FSG and it would be easy for them to pivot and give Crosby equity as well. That gives them two of the best ever in their respective sports.
Nice thought though.</div></div>
Pens have nowhere near as much value as the Habs. Nor would his presence cause it to have more value. He’s already there.
Crosby being here would create so much interest, the value of the team might close to double.
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Armchair-GM
18 mars à 1 h 44
Sujet:
Geoff Molson gives Crosby an ownership stake in the Habs 2025
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens65</b></div><div>If I was Crosby I'd do it.
But if this was on the table I feel like the Penguins would offer ownership of their team too and Crosby would much rather own a bit of the Penguins than the Canadiens.</div></div>
The next 3 years of Crosby are worth more to the Habs than they would be the Pens. We have the young core needed to win after adding him, Letang, and Guentzel. The pens don’t. Cup # 25 would actually be achievable. And he would galvanize an entire province for years.
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Armchair-GM
15 mars à 16 h 41
Sujet:
Cup number 25 in 2025
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Just_A_Guess</b></div><div>Depends what his ask is imo. If it's not outrageous I'd be willing to give him 8 years.</div></div>
Would you do close to Suzuki money?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 mars à 22 h 12
Sujet:
Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Steve_321</b></div><div>Really don’t agree with this. Not how the guy operates. He is going to make sure his legacy in Pittsburgh is secured by helping the team rebuild.</div></div>
I hear you and agree broadly speaking. My point is that he wouldn’t hold out and refuse a trade saying one 1st rounder isn’t enough, they need to give 2. Crosby picks his destination, and Dubas and ownership will have no choice. Hughes will be fair. But he won’t need to overpay.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 mars à 16 h 47
Sujet:
Maximizing asset value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>LOL. One of the better trolls on this site this week!</div></div>
Mainly curious what the slate of draft picks could look like. Still wouldn’t be great though, tbh…
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 mars à 16 h 47
Sujet:
Maximizing asset value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tbrew</b></div><div>They aren’t going to tank the 24-25 season when they likely won’t own their own 2025 1st</div></div>
Thanks for the reminder, I forgot about that condition in the Karlsson trade. It’s a good point, but I don’t think their decision rests on that alone. Also. It’s entirely possible that the Pens push this year and finish out of the bottom 10. Another bad Dubas trade that lacks foresight though…
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Armchair-GM
14 mars à 16 h 25
Sujet:
Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfkst1</b></div><div>You've already proven your ignorance.</div></div>
When he ends up leaving Pittsburgh this off-season, remember this moment.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 mars à 15 h 25
Sujet:
Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>Not whining at all... I'd actually move on that.. To get Crosby in MTL.. I think it would be a steal.. Personally I'd give Dvroak (50% retention), Barron, Harris, Beck, Norlinder, WIN 1st, and 2X 2nd rounders. If they want I'd even forget about the 2X 2nd rounders and provide WIN 1st AND CAL's 1st, but would remove either Harris or Barron form the equation. This would need to be with that Crosby signs for 3 years in MTL (around 7M$yr probably) . He'd be a great asset for the Habs and the money cash cow that he'd bring in.. OUch..
If Gretzky was able to forget the C on his jersey, I think Crosby can take an A instead and leave the C to Suzuki and teach him.
I'm saying Dubas does worse trades than that.. You have a way better view than him of what to get for Crosby. He'd trade in his 2023 Ferrari for a 2024 Hyundai Santa Fe, would still have to pay 30K$ at 6.6% interest for 8 years on it and think he won the deal..
I bleed for Pens fan.. I do like the Pens, they should have a better team in order to at least try one more time, but Dubas isn't a builder.. He'll destroy the team to get that first overall then 2 or 3 top 3 picks and still be unable to figure out why he can't win series. Just look at what he did in TO.. Really.. You have Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, and Rielly.. still he never woke up to figure out he also needed defensive defensemen, a good goalie and some grit players. He got more point makers that don't block and don't carry the puck.. That's a huge hole on defense and that'll hurt your team. He's doing the same bringing in Karlsson.. Should've gotten a player with less points, but more +'s and grit around the net...
I hope the Sr Management open their eyes with the attitude Crosby showed in the locker room after that awful trade for Guentzel..</div></div>
I didn’t say you were the one whining, I totally agree with you (on that part).
Crosby would have the C. Suzuki would obviously give it up, and would gladly do so.
Pens will rebuild through the draft and bringing in young players. It will take time. So all the vets eventually get moved out. It’s the right thing to do for the club. Pens fans had a lot of great years. They’ll survive.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 mars à 15 h 24
Sujet:
Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>NJD is not moving a 900k top dman for a 8 mill winger. If Montreal wants to offer Caufield+ for Bratt maybe we can have that discussion (Guhle and Montembault are pieces of interest on top)</div></div>
Nemec is the only reason this thought even came to mind. No one else on that roster is relevant to our squad.
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Armchair-GM
14 mars à 15 h 22
Sujet:
Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfkst1</b></div><div>Yes, but that is something out of their control and still ignores the millions being lost immediately if he is traded a season earlier. But that is a massive disconnect between fans doing this with no accountability and GMs actually working with ownership oversight.</div></div>
If Crosby wins a cup with the Habs, it only strengthens his long term post playing career value to the Pens. He overtakes Gretzky as the GOAT imho in that scenario.
They’re gonna let him makes this decision. No question about it.
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Armchair-GM
14 mars à 15 h 21
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Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfkst1</b></div><div>Yes, obviously Crosby wouldn't care. Do you know who would? FSG. Because Crosby leaving guarantees millions leaving in revenue for that season. So they would NEVER approve of a trade without it being massive.</div></div>
Sure, so they wait a year and get nothing.
And piss off someone they want as an ambassador of the franchise for 40+ years after he retires.
Smart business model.
Not.
You need to think bigger picture.
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Armchair-GM
14 mars à 14 h 24
Sujet:
Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Then there's nothing else of interest for Nemec.</div></div>
32 teams in the NHL would take Caufield. Jersey top of the list given the connection with Hughes, which will only continue to develop with the national team in international best on best tourneys. The Devils would be lucky to have him, but we’re not moving him. I was just curious what the team would look like with the cap space.
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Armchair-GM
14 mars à 14 h 19
Sujet:
Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>If we think about Dubas trades, MTL may get Crosby for Ylonen, a 2nd round pick, and Dvorak.. LOL!
Just kidding Pens fans, You'll have it real bad until they show Dubas the door..</div></div>
A 1st, 2nd, 4th, Harris, and Ylonen for a player on an expiring contract who can pick his destination…and yet they still whine. Fascinating.
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Armchair-GM
14 mars à 14 h 17
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Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfkst1</b></div><div>Crosby said he'll only waive if MTL sends their next five first rounders.</div></div>
Crosby wouldnt care what the return would be to Pittsburgh. He would want the team he plays for to have the best chance of winning.
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Armchair-GM
14 mars à 14 h 16
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Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gpmack95</b></div><div>Suzuki + Caufield + Slaf + 1st + 2nd + Newhook = 87... maybe.</div></div>
87 goes where he wants.
87 in 2025 the return to Dubas (hahaha Dubas) = 0
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14 mars à 14 h 15
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Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Schuyler</b></div><div>Last thing the devils need is a 5'7 winger if they wanted Nemec should have taken him over slaf</div></div>
We want both.
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Armchair-GM
13 mars à 16 h 11
Sujet:
Habs win lottery 2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>Got it so we give you one of the best players ever for basically zero. Take a hike. We will keep him.</div></div>
Not your decision. This is up to Sid.
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