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Vegas Baby

Créé par: worldwidesensei
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2021
Publié: 16 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 200 000 $
22 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
21 200 000 $
24 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Krebs, Peyton
  2. Stephenson, Chandler
  3. Theodore, Shea
  4. Tuch, Alex
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Ristolainen, Rasmus (50 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Ristolainen 50% retained
2.
BUF
  1. Deangelo, Anthony
  2. Georgiev, Alexandar
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
3.
BUF
  1. Subban, P.K.
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
Détails additionnels:
Sabres protect 3D - Dahlin, Theodore, Borgen; Trade Joki to get value
4.
BUF
    expansion draft
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    16 juin 2021 à 8 h 15
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    i'm sure Vegas fans are going to love the trade. i'll leave that one alone.
    Reinhart to the Rangers doesn't make sense. they are already log jammed at the wing...
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    16 juin 2021 à 8 h 22
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    Quoting: Mike_Gartner

    Reinhart to the Rangers doesn't make sense. they are already log jammed at the wing...


    Reinhart would instantly become the highest scoring C/RW on the team. That always makes sense.
    16 juin 2021 à 8 h 24
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    Reinhart would instantly become the highest scoring C/RW on the team. That always makes sense.


    lolololol
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    16 juin 2021 à 8 h 25
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    Quoting: Mike_Gartner
    i'm sure Vegas fans are going to love the trade. i'll leave that one alone.
    Reinhart to the Rangers doesn't make sense. they are already log jammed at the wing...


    He would make a good 2C and that price is good to me
    16 juin 2021 à 8 h 31
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    lolololol


    I don't know what this means. Are you laughing because it's true?

    Reinhart 25 goals
    Zibanejad 24 goals
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    16 juin 2021 à 8 h 43
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    I don't know what this means. Are you laughing because it's true?

    Reinhart 25 goals
    Zibanejad 24 goals


    Over these past four years Zibanejad has 122 goals to Reinhart's 93, but you're basing him being a better scorer off of this past season where he happened to have one more goal.
    16 juin 2021 à 8 h 47
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    Quoting: WuWuWuKennyWu
    Over these past four years Zibanejad has 122 goals to Reinhart's 93, but you're basing him being a better scorer off of this past season where he happened to have one more goal.


    Never said "better scorer". Not sure where you are getting that from. Messier has more goals than both over the past 100 years. What's your point? In this scenario, the Rangers have both Zibanejad and Reinhart. I don't see the problem.
    16 juin 2021 à 8 h 59
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    Woooof. That is WAY too much. I’m not trading Tuch or Theodore period. Both are combined making less than Jack. Then you add in Krebs and Stephenson. I could care less about the first. But Theo or Tuch ain’t going anywhere, and with the flat cap I don’t think Krebs is either. They are going to need ELCs that can support the roster
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    16 juin 2021 à 9 h 11
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    Woooof. That is WAY too much. I’m not trading Tuch or Theodore period. Both are combined making less than Jack. Then you add in Krebs and Stephenson. I could care less about the first. But Theo or Tuch ain’t going anywhere, and with the flat cap I don’t think Krebs is either. They are going to need ELCs that can support the roster


    Been waiting to hear from Vegas! Would basically have to include Theodore and Tuch to make the cap work. Vegas has always been bold and you are missing that true #1C (you might no need one, but you are missing one). They don't come easy. Eichel + ? > Theodore + Tuch

    Certainly willing to negotiate. I would include Jokiharju (you get an RFA player) instead of Risto if you prefer. Stephenson isn't so necessary either, threw him in for cap purposes if you want Risto.

    Counter-offer (and I think this favors LV):
    Eichel + Joki <> Theodore,Tuch, Krebs, 1st, 2nd
    16 juin 2021 à 9 h 49
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    Quoting: NYR1983
    He would make a good 2C and that price is good to me


    how does a player with less than 25 games as a C make a "good 2C"?
    his sample size as a C doesn't make him good at the position.

    his next contract ask is going to be high and I'd rather have Buch over Reinhart...
    16 juin 2021 à 9 h 51
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    I don't know what this means. Are you laughing because it's true?

    Reinhart 25 goals
    Zibanejad 24 goals


    Rangers fans generally don't have the best hockey IQ
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    16 juin 2021 à 9 h 52
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    Reinhart would instantly become the highest scoring C/RW on the team. That always makes sense.


    not in the least bit.
    16 juin 2021 à 9 h 52
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    Well that's a massive yikes on the Vegas trade! I'm not sure Vegas would trade Theodore straight up for Eichel let alone adding an insane amount of assets.
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    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 1
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    Well that's a massive yikes on the Vegas trade! I'm not sure Vegas would trade Theodore straight up for Eichel let alone adding an insane amount of assets.


    A straight up trade probably wouldn't work capwise for LV, but you're talking about the #3D on LV and a Hart Trophy candidate.
    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 3
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    A straight up trade probably wouldn't work capwise for LV, but you're talking about the #3D on LV and a Hart Trophy candidate.


    Claiming Theodore is the #3D on Vegas makes everything you say irrelevant. What a stupid comment!
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    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 4
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    Quoting: Mike_Gartner
    not in the least bit.


    I guess you don't understand 25 > 24.
    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 6
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    I guess you don't understand 25 > 24.


    Last 3 Seasons:
    Zib - 95 goals
    Reinhart - 69 goals
    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 6
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Claiming Theodore is the #3D on Vegas makes everything you say irrelevant. What a stupid comment!


    ATOI
    Pietrangelo 24:26
    Martinez 22:34
    Theodore 22:33

    Just facts.
    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 7
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    ATOI
    Pietrangelo 24:26
    Martinez 22:34
    Theodore 22:33


    Didn't realize we only measure talent by TOI...my bad
    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 9
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    A straight up trade probably wouldn't work capwise for LV, but you're talking about the #3D on LV and a Hart Trophy candidate.

    Theodore & AP are the backbones of our defense. Theodore isn’t included in a deal because cap. He’s on an amazing contract let’s get real here. Eichel doesn’t fetch this return period. Furthermore teams are going to be a little cautious until they see what his recovery looks like.
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    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 12
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Didn't realize we only measure talent by TOI...my bad


    Oh, some armchair fan from Philly knows better than the coach of the team. Right. I suppose if you were the coach, you would play the best players less than the worst players. That makes total sense, if your brain comes from Philly.
    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 13
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    Oh, some armchair fan from Philly knows better than the coach of the team. Right.


    You clearly don't watch or know anything about hockey.
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    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 17
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    You clearly don't watch or know anything about hockey.


    Eichel > Theodore. Simple facts. I think you're showing your ignorance, not me.
    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 19
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    Been waiting to hear from Vegas! Would basically have to include Theodore and Tuch to make the cap work. Vegas has always been bold and you are missing that true #1C (you might no need one, but you are missing one). They don't come easy. Eichel + ? > Theodore + Tuch

    Certainly willing to negotiate. I would include Jokiharju (you get an RFA player) instead of Risto if you prefer. Stephenson isn't so necessary either, threw him in for cap purposes if you want Risto.

    Counter-offer (and I think this favors LV):
    Eichel + Joki <> Theodore,Tuch, Krebs, 1st, 2nd



    Lol counter offer Vegas doesn’t get Eichel. There’s zero chance I’m trading all that. Stephenson has been doing just fine as our 1C. 3 wins away from the SCF. Regardless of what happens to vegas from this point forward I can guarantee you there is no trade that happens with Theodore or Tuch
    16 juin 2021 à 10 h 23
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Didn't realize we only measure talent by TOI...my bad


    Never said talent...said #3 in the rotation.
     
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