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Ideal Offseason

Date de création initiale: 7 juin 2021
Publié: 7 juin 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Johnson, Ryan3925 000 $
Peterka, John-Jason3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Asplund, Rasmus1900 000 $
Dahlin, Rasmus36 750 000 $
Jokiharju, Henri22 850 000 $
Mittelstadt, Casey21 850 000 $
Reinhart, Sam56 250 000 $
Dunn, Vince33 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Ullmark, Linus44 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Power, Owen3925 000 $
Robertsson, Simon3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
    - Seattle Expansion Draft.
    SEA
    1. Miller, Colin
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    BUF
    1. Kassian, Zack (1 000 000 $ retained)
    2. Bear, Ethan
    EDM
    1. Thompson, Tage
    2. Borgen, William [Droits de RFA]
    3. 2021 3e round pick (FLA)
    3.
    BUF
    1. Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]
    STL
    1. Samuelsson, Mattias
    2. 2021 2e round pick (BOS)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
    • Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $
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    Olofsson, Victor
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    Skinner, Jeff
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    Reinhart, Sam
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    Asplund, Rasmus
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    Kassian, Zack
    2 200 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 3
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    Dahlin, Rasmus
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    Jokiharju, Henri
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    Bryson, Jacob
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    Okposo, Kyle
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    Eakin, Cody
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    7 juin 2021 à 17 h 30
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    That Edmonton deal is terrible for Buffalo. Kassian is worth less than any of the pieces going the other way, he’s a net negative even with some retention. Bear is a nice player, but I wouldn’t give up more than Boston’s second round pick to get him.
    7 juin 2021 à 17 h 32
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    Reinhart is going to sign a max 1 year contract
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    7 juin 2021 à 17 h 42
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    Quoting: Gmonwy
    Reinhart is going to sign a max 1 year contract


    Ideal compared to reality is quite a stretch ain't it?
    7 juin 2021 à 17 h 43
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    Quoting: Tjm220
    That Edmonton deal is terrible for Buffalo. Kassian is worth less than any of the pieces going the other way, he’s a net negative even with some retention. Bear is a nice player, but I wouldn’t give up more than Boston’s second round pick to get him.

    That's why I gave up Thompson and a 3rd.
    7 juin 2021 à 17 h 43
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    Quoting: Tjm220
    That Edmonton deal is terrible for Buffalo. Kassian is worth less than any of the pieces going the other way, he’s a net negative even with some retention. Bear is a nice player, but I wouldn’t give up more than Boston’s second round pick to get him.


    Deal is bad for Buffalo? Gotta be kidding first of all kass had a down year but doesn’t have negative value. Most you’d pay is a late second for bear? Lol well your never gunna get bear then.
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    7 juin 2021 à 18 h 4
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    Agh I just wish Samuelsson was a righty. Still something the Blues might entertain, depending on what other offers come in.
    7 juin 2021 à 18 h 5
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    Agh I just wish Samuelsson was a righty. Still something the Blues might entertain, depending on what other offers come in.


    Ryan Johnson played right side as a left shot but I think his value is quite a step up on Samuelsson.
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    7 juin 2021 à 18 h 6
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    Quoting: Timmah007
    Deal is bad for Buffalo? Gotta be kidding first of all kass had a down year but doesn’t have negative value. Most you’d pay is a late second for bear? Lol well your never gunna get bear then.

    Do you think this a fair deal?
    7 juin 2021 à 18 h 7
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    That's why I gave up Thompson and a 3rd.

    Thompson is a better player than Kassian, and he costs half as much. I don’t really get what you’re going for here. Bear was decent offensively but suspect defensively for Edmonton, Buffalo doesn’t need more of that.
    7 juin 2021 à 18 h 9
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    Quoting: Timmah007
    Deal is bad for Buffalo? Gotta be kidding first of all kass had a down year but doesn’t have negative value. Most you’d pay is a late second for bear? Lol well your never gunna get bear then.

    He’s a $3 million 4th liner. He’s not worth much. Bear is a decent player, but Buffalo doesn’t need another offensive defenseman who can’t play defense.
    7 juin 2021 à 18 h 25
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    Quoting: Tjm220
    He’s a $3 million 4th liner. He’s not worth much. Bear is a decent player, but Buffalo doesn’t need another offensive defenseman who can’t play defense.


    Kassian a fourth liner? Hahah. I’m sorry, but he’s a third liner. He gets a average of 20 points if he plays with good player, he will protect your players, is fast, is good at both ends of the ice. A lot of teams out there need a guy like Kassian including Buffalo.
    7 juin 2021 à 18 h 40
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    Kassian a fourth liner? Hahah. I’m sorry, but he’s a third liner. He gets a average of 20 points if he plays with good player, he will protect your players, is fast, is good at both ends of the ice. A lot of teams out there need a guy like Kassian including Buffalo.

    I have to disagree. Tage Thompson is a third liner. He has some offensive upside and scored 4 times as many goals as Kassian last year. Kassian would be a fourth liner where ever Edmonton would send him next. Assuming anyone will take that contract off your hands. He’s worth more than Kyle Okposo, but that’s because because he costs only half as much while providing no offense.
    7 juin 2021 à 18 h 49
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    I have to disagree. Tage Thompson is a third liner. He has some offensive upside and scored 4 times as many goals as Kassian last year. Kassian would be a fourth liner where ever Edmonton would send him next. Assuming anyone will take that contract off your hands. He’s worth more than Kyle Okposo, but that’s because because he costs only half as much while providing no offense.


    Again in my opinion, this is false. Kassian is a third liner and I explained it from my points. He is way better than Thompson, and Okposo in my opinion.
    7 juin 2021 à 18 h 53
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    Quoting: Nhl_oilers
    Again in my opinion, this is false. Kassian is a third liner and I explained it from my points. He is way better than Thompson, and Okposo in my opinion.

    Kassian‘s best season was playing on a line with Connor McDavid, and why wouldn’t it be? I am pretty sure you could put on a pair of skates and the score points playing with Connor McDavid. His actual capability without superstars garnering all the attention is considerably less. Also, with his contract and the season he just had, I think you know his value couldn’t be much lower. Thompson is still young, and finally appears to be turning the corner. Buffalo believes he can still be a 20 goal scorer. Kassian would be lucky to score 10, and he’s not getting younger or faster. Thompson also costs less than half as much.
    8 juin 2021 à 0 h 45
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    This isn’t close to “ideal”
    U might wanna look that word up in the dictionary
    8 juin 2021 à 3 h 23
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    Quoting: Jdfitz77
    This isn’t close to “ideal”
    U might wanna look that word up in the dictionary


    What's wrong with it?

    Trying to keep it realistic as well.
    8 juin 2021 à 4 h 5
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    What's wrong with it?

    Trying to keep it realistic as well.


    Well for starters....
    if you’re trying to keep it “realistic” then why are Eichel & Reinhart & Risto still here?

    And even if your version of “ideal” somehow keeps them all....
    U barely added anything that’s gonna make us better
    A couple 2nd pair defensemen & 1 overpaid depth forward doesn’t come close to the definition of “ideal” imo
    For that.... i think u need to aim much higher
    8 juin 2021 à 4 h 15
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Agh I just wish Samuelsson was a righty. Still something the Blues might entertain, depending on what other offers come in.
    How does Dunn to Detroit for RHD Troy Stetcher and 2nd round pick sound?

    Detroit already has RHD Hronek and will add top prospect RHD Moritz Seider; thereby, pushing Stetcher to the 3rd line and pushing 22 year old Gustav Lindström out of the lineup which doesn't make sense for where Detroit is at in the rebuild.
    8 juin 2021 à 4 h 33
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    Quoting: dca919
    How does Dunn to Detroit for RHD Troy Stetcher and 2nd round pick sound?

    Detroit already has RHD Hronek and will add top prospect RHD Moritz Seider; thereby, pushing Stetcher to the 3rd line and pushing 22 year old Gustav Lindström out of the lineup which doesn't make sense for where Detroit is at in the rebuild.



    Stecher is not really of much interest.
    8 juin 2021 à 7 h 8
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    Do you think this a fair deal?


    Don’t see any reason for oilers to do it. 2 players off the roster to bring in one realistically and that’s kinda debatable as Thompson would be battling khaira for 4c role khaira is big part of a good pk. Moving kass means need to replace his roster spot that’s going to cost money not really saving enough to do anything significant enough to justify including bear. Perhaps if switch kass out for Neal who is doubtful to have a spot and avoid buyout and open enough cap to make a significant move might be more attractive to Edmonton.
     
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