What to do with Bobrovsky

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Créé par: NoVaSpartan

Équipe: 2021-22 Panthers de la Floride

Date de création initiale: 27 mai 2021

Publié: 27 mai 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Not sure what Florida wants to do with Bob after the emergence of Dreidger and Knight this year, but I wanted to do a more unrealistic situation to see what people think.

Note: With the Bob trade, Florida may need to add a prospect, but I am not really too knowledgeable with Florida prospects.

FA Explanations:
Forsling - Comes back for 1 year, would play 3rd pair LD.
Wennberg - Does not resign with Florida, seeks out a bigger deal elsewhere
Bennett - Seemed to mesh well with Duclair and played well once he left Calgary
Duclair - Played well this year, gets a 3 year deal and plays top 6 wing
Rittich - 1 year deal to possibly in a cup and increase his value in hopes of a bigger contract next year, the safety valve if Knight struggles
Forbort - Depth defenseman, can step in for injured players

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Bennett, Sam	3	4 000 000 $
Duclair, Anthony	3	4 000 000 $
Forsling, Gustav	1	1 250 000 $
Lammikko, Juho	1	750 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Driedger, Chris	1	2 000 000 $
Rittich, David	1	2 000 000 $
Forbort, Derek	1	1 500 000 $

Transactions

FLA

Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (TOR)

Détails additionnels:

Doug Wilson seems to have an affinity for Veteran players locked up 5 years down the line, San Jose gets a goalie and some draft picks to help the retool. Bob gets to go to a city with nice beaches, and the Panthers get rid of Bobrovsky and free up space to keep Knight. The big question is would they be able to convice Bob to waive his no movement clause, in this scenerio they do.

SJS

Bobrovsky, Sergei
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)

FLA

SEA

Nutivaara, Markus

Détails additionnels:

Expansion draft

FLA

Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (BUF)

Détails additionnels:

Buffalo makes a trade for Dreidger before the expansion to give them options if Ullmark leaves.

BUF

Driedger, Chris

FLA

Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (ANA)

Détails additionnels:

Any team

ANA

Juulsen, Noah [Droits de RFA]
Wallmark, Lucas [Droits de RFA]

Rachats de contrats

Scott Darling: 1 183 333 $

Frais appliqués

Roberto Luongo: 1 092 122 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	63 036 288 $	0 $	4 400 000 $	18 463 712 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Verhaeghe, Carter 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Barkov, Aleksander 5 900 000 $5 900 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Tippett, Owen 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG UFA - 1
Bennett, Sam 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ C UFA - 4	Huberdeau, Jonathan 5 900 000 $5 900 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 2	Duclair, Anthony 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3
Denisenko, Grigori 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD RFA - 2		Hörnqvist, Patric 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 2
Lomberg, Ryan 725 000 $725 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Heponiemi, Aleksi 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, C RFA - 1	Vatrano, Frank 2 533 333 $2 533 333 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
	Acciari, Noel 1 666 667 $1 666 667 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Yandle, Keith 900 000 $900 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 1	Ekblad, Aaron 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4
Weegar, MacKenzie 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Strålman, Anton 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Knight, Spencer 925 000 $925 000 $ (1 850 000 $$2M) G RFA - 2
		Rittich, David 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Forsling, Gustav 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Gudas, Radko 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Marchment, Mason 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Luostarinen, Eetu 897 500 $897 500 $ AG, C UFA - 1
Forbort, Derek 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DG UFA - 3

Équipe de réserve
Kiersted, Matt 858 750 $858 750 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (850 000 $$850K) DG UFA - 1
Ludvig, John 853 333 $853 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 2
Kolyachonok, Vladislav 789 167 $789 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (132 500 $$132K) DG/DD RFA - 3
Schwindt, Cole 855 833 $855 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (132 500 $$132K) AD, C RFA - 3
Lammikko, Juho 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C, AG UFA - 1

27 mai 2021 à 9 h 34

Leafsfan416

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Nothing will happen to Bob, they are stuck with him. But I wouldn’t be rushing to give the net to Knight. Carter Hart is a prime example of why you don’t rush young goalies.

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27 mai 2021 à 9 h 35

DeadWingsv2

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Sign and trades do not happen. That Driedger deal is just silly. As for SJ, I doubt Bob would waive his NMC to go somewhere with significantly higher taxes. Also, FLA would need to take back Jones in any deal with SJ.

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27 mai 2021 à 9 h 58

Taz

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Bob + Lundell vs Price + Poehling

27 mai 2021 à 9 h 58

VijayPatel11

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Quoting: Taz

Bob + Lundell vs Price + Poehling

27 mai 2021 à 10 h 0

Taz

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Quoting: VijayPatel11

then keep stuck with him

27 mai 2021 à 10 h 1

Chapee44

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Driedger is a UFA... I wouldn't think anyone trades for him without an extension at this point.
But I do want him in Buffalo.

27 mai 2021 à 10 h 2

VijayPatel11

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Quoting: Taz

then keep stuck with him

ok, i don't want to trade him anyway lol
You can't seriously think that if we're trading 2 bad goalies with high cap hits, the one with the higher cap hit gets more value in return
That is just plain stupid

27 mai 2021 à 10 h 14

palhal

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No team wants Bob, his play and his contract. Bad money would have to come back in trade. Dreiger doesn't sign that contract....and gets traded to boot. Dreiger will find much better options .

27 mai 2021 à 10 h 20

Taz

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Quoting: VijayPatel11

Look at Carey's playoff stats in the last few years and tell me again he's a bad goalie! Also consider the fact he's playing for the worst offensive supporting team, but still he gives them a chance to win practically every night.

27 mai 2021 à 12 h 22

#10

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Bro the Sharks are like the last team in the Universe who

A) Can afford Bob

B) Want his services long term

27 mai 2021 à 13 h 0

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NoVaSpartan

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Quoting: palhal

No team wants Bob, his play and his contract. Bad money would have to come back in trade. Dreiger doesn't sign that contract....and gets traded to boot. Dreiger will find much better options .

Quoting: DeadWingsv2

To clarify, Dredger signs in Buffalo, I just gave him a contract so that I could trade him, and the trade would happen before the expansion draft

27 mai 2021 à 13 h 4

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DeadWingsv2

PlusMinus is stupid

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Quoting: NoVaSpartan

To clarify, Dredger signs in Buffalo, I just gave him a contract so that I could trade him, and the trade would happen before the expansion draft

That's not a thing. That is the definition of a sign and trade, which do not happen in the NHL.

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28 mai 2021 à 8 h 52

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

That's not a thing. That is the definition of a sign and trade, which do not happen in the NHL.

Im saying hes not under a new contract at any point in Florida. Since the ACGM doesn't allow you to trade anyone that is an upcoming UFA, I had to put him under contract even though in this scenario he would still be under the contract he is on right now since he would be traded before the expansion. The contract I gave to dreidger should be completly ignored, it doesn't mean anything. It isn't a sign and trade, I just have to do that because of how the ACGM is set up.

28 mai 2021 à 9 h 39

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DeadWingsv2

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Quoting: NoVaSpartan

My gosh, you're trolling me, right? Just don't sign him in the ACGM, done and done. The way you have it set up is sending a 2nd round pick FROM Buffalo TO Florida FOR Dreidger. That will not happen. He will go to FA, and sign with Buffalo if he desires. Florida gets no compensation, and he will not sign there first. I don't know how much clearer that can be, unless you're purposely being ignorant, just to mess with me. I'm done replying to this lunacy.

28 mai 2021 à 13 h 51

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NoVaSpartan

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

The whole point is for Buffalo to get him before Seattle does, so that when Ullmark leaves they have a goalie. Thus the sentences "Before the expansion draft" and "If Ullmark leaves". Thus why Buffalo gives up a second round pick for him. The whole point is for Buffalo to acquire his rights so they can talk to him for longer and get a deal done. But clearly you are choosing instead to ignore obvious context clues and get angry over an otherwise polite forum thread so that you can be angry over "Lunacy" and try to explain my own thinking to me like I'm a 2 year old.

31 mai 2021 à 10 h 56

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palhal

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Quoting: NoVaSpartan

Sorry it's a silly conception of a signing and trade. Drieger has a UFA is going to have some "NTCs in his contract which would include Buffalo.

1 juin 2021 à 8 h 27

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Quoting: palhal

Sorry it's a silly conception of a signing and trade. Drieger has a UFA is going to have some "NTCs in his contract which would include Buffalo.

Dreidger isnt getting signed at any point by Florida. He is traded as a pending UFA before he signs a contract anywhere, and Buffalo would be able to use that negotiation time before free agency to throw enough money at him to sign him.

1 juin 2021 à 9 h 4

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palhal

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Quoting: NoVaSpartan

Actually one week before free agency signing period, players can negotiate with all teams. Still it unreasonable to think that just because a team has a little more time to negotiate with a player, that player is gonna to forgo his chance at free agency. And really the Sabres....players are avoiding that team now, and the only way it happens if the Sabres massively overpay....and then you have a have a unhappy player very soon.....like Eichel and Reinhart.

1 juin 2021 à 9 h 13

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Quoting: palhal

Depending on how they approach this offseason, I dont think the Sabres are as bad to touch as some think. They, of course, struggled most of this year but seemed to turn it around somewhat under Granato, despite missing players to injuries like Ullmark. It would be a risky decision for sure, but in Dreidgers case he would get starter money and without Ullmark there he's probably playing 60 or more games in net. Sabres would have to overpay somewhat but Dreidger could go with a shorter contract so if the Sabres decide to lose 18 games in a row again he can get out of there and try somewhere else. But if the gamble does pay off, he plays great on a bad team and gets a bigger contract the next time hes a FA.

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