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Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2021
Publié: 26 mai 2021
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Their D is bad
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26 mai 2021 à 17 h 37
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And this makes Columbus' defense . . . what exactly?
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26 mai 2021 à 17 h 37
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Yeah Edmonton says no
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26 mai 2021 à 17 h 41
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And this makes Columbus' defense . . . what exactly?


In a complete rebuild. If he isn't going to sign with us we might as well try and get something. EDM obviously needs major help in the back end. Their team has no balance and that sweep was just the proof.
26 mai 2021 à 17 h 41
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Yeah Edmonton says no


Any reason why not? How about if Jones guaranteed to sign?
26 mai 2021 à 17 h 42
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In a complete rebuild. If he isn't going to sign with us we might as well try and get something. EDM obviously needs major help in the back end. Their team has no balance and that sweep was just the proof.


Jones is a rental... and this is a gross overpay
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26 mai 2021 à 17 h 45
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Any reason why not? How about if Jones guaranteed to sign?


Jones is a very good offensive defenseman which is not what Edmonton needs at the current moment. Also, korpisalo isn't very good and elivs would be a better option for edmonton.Also, holloway seems untouchable at the moment.
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26 mai 2021 à 17 h 49
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Jones is a rental... and this is a gross overpay


How about if this was trade and sign deal?
26 mai 2021 à 17 h 50
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How did you come up with that conclusion?
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26 mai 2021 à 17 h 52
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
Jones is a very good offensive defenseman which is not what Edmonton needs at the current moment. Also, korpisalo isn't very good and elivs would be a better option for edmonton.Also, holloway seems untouchable at the moment.


Jones can give you 25 minutes a night and can play lots of roles. At some point in time EDM needs to make a decision on having a more balanced team if they want to win. They can't rely on two guys. I don't see us giving up Elvis.
26 mai 2021 à 17 h 54
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
Yeah Edmonton says no


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Jones is a rental... and this is a gross overpay


What . . . you don't want to pay four firsts for a rental and a backup-goalie?
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How did you come up with that conclusion?


Doesn't sound like Jones wants to play here. Hoping for a trade and sign somewhere else. EDM needs D.
26 mai 2021 à 17 h 56
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Doesn't sound like Jones wants to play here. Hoping for a trade and sign somewhere else. EDM needs D.


I wouldn’t say our defence is bad though... we need more depth in front of anything. I would love Seth Jones but not for that.
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26 mai 2021 à 18 h 1
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The oilers do not need D. You are a casual. Jones is not good at all
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Think Oilers defence is bad.....you may right. But CBJ Dmen and goalies are the most overrated combo on CapFriendly. Horrid trade for Oilers as posted.
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26 mai 2021 à 18 h 24
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I wouldn’t say our defence is bad though... we need more depth in front of anything. I would love Seth Jones but not for that.


You guys just gave up 4-5 goals in 3 of the 4 games of the sweep.
26 mai 2021 à 18 h 25
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The oilers do not need D. You are a casual. Jones is not good at all


You just got swept. Okay.
26 mai 2021 à 18 h 31
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Think Oilers defence is bad.....you may right. But CBJ Dmen and goalies are the most overrated combo on CapFriendly. Horrid trade for Oilers as posted.


Oh we aren't in denial like you guys. EDM needs to do something about their D to balance out their team. This might not be the right trade but it's something they need to do IMO. Jones can eat up 25 minutes a night and help the young guys develop.
26 mai 2021 à 18 h 52
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You guys just gave up 4-5 goals in 3 of the 4 games of the sweep.



Yes, and that was mostly the offence.. trust me I watched the games. Also, in my opinion, Ethan Bear played horribly! But yes, I would like to get a number 1 defence man.
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In a complete rebuild. If he isn't going to sign with us we might as well try and get something. EDM obviously needs major help in the back end. Their team has no balance and that sweep was just the proof.


Team has no balance? Perhaps, but not because of the defence. It’s a forward depth issue. Teams with bad defence don’t lose tight, 1 goal games against the high octane Winnipeg jets. Edmonton average 1 goal against for every 25 minutes of play, 2.4 GA/60 minutes. And if you take away that 3:03 period in game 3 where the Oilers **** their pants (more because of young defencemen than bad ones) it’s only 1 GA for every 33 minutes.

The team is not that far off, and if you actually watched the games, you would have seen that. They played some excellent hockey and were just extremely unlucky to lose all of those games. Take away 4 bounces at the right times from the jets and give them to the Oilers, and Edmonton would be up 4-0. But it just wasn’t to be.

A team 4 bounces away from Winning a series doesn’t give up 4 years of 1st round picks for two players with 1 year of contract left. Honestly, what are you thinking?
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26 mai 2021 à 18 h 56
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one of the most overrated dmen in the league and on of the worst goalies this year for 4 firsts? lmaoooo
26 mai 2021 à 19 h 9
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Yes, and that was mostly the offence.. trust me I watched the games. Also, in my opinion, Ethan Bear played horribly! But yes, I would like to get a number 1 defence man.


Oh i watched them too. Like you said you need a number 1 guy.
26 mai 2021 à 19 h 13
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How about if this was trade and sign deal?


Nope if he is willing to sign in EDM they’ll rather wait a year and sign him in the off-season

tbh even if it is a trade and sign deal it’s still an overpay
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Team has no balance? Perhaps, but not because of the defence. It’s a forward depth issue. Teams with bad defence don’t lose tight, 1 goal games against the high octane Winnipeg jets. Edmonton average 1 goal against for every 25 minutes of play, 2.4 GA/60 minutes. And if you take away that 3:03 period in game 3 where the Oilers **** their pants (more because of young defencemen than bad ones) it’s only 1 GA for every 33 minutes.

The team is not that far off, and if you actually watched the games, you would have seen that. They played some excellent hockey and were just extremely unlucky to lose all of those games. Take away 4 bounces at the right times from the jets and give them to the Oilers, and Edmonton would be up 4-0. But it just wasn’t to be.

A team 4 bounces away from Winning a series doesn’t give up 4 years of 1st round picks for two players with 1 year of contract left. Honestly, what are you thinking?


I watched the games. I saw a young team without a number 1 dman and no solid goaltending. They gave up bad leads and have a team based around 2 players. IMO i find it not to be balanced. I personally think they are very close too but they have a lot of offseason work to do. Lots of UFA and RFA to deal with. Not a lot of free agents out there either.
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Quoting: HockeyFan989
Nope if he is willing to sign in EDM they’ll rather wait a year and sign him in the off-season

tbh even if it is a trade and sign deal it’s still an overpay


I think at some point in time you guys have to make a move like this. You don't have the D to carry through the playoffs and there isn't any good free agents. You hadn't made the "playoffs" for 3 years now get bounced in 4 games. Obviously something is wrong.
26 mai 2021 à 19 h 25
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I watched the games. I saw a young team without a number 1 dman and no solid goaltending. They gave up bad leads and have a team based around 2 players. IMO i find it not to be balanced. I personally think they are very close too but they have a lot of offseason work to do. Lots of UFA and RFA to deal with. Not a lot of free agents out there either.


If you didn’t see Darnell Nurse playing #1 D, then no, you didn’t watch the games. Edmontons solid goaltender, Mike smith had a 0.912 save % in the playoffs, and if you didn’t see his good stops then I feel like you didn’t watch the games. They did absolutely give up 1 large lead and a couple other 1 goal leads, for that, I can believe you read press clippings, maybe even watched some highlights.
 
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