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2 top 10 picks

Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 15 mai 2021
Publié: 15 mai 2021
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Dumba trade is a continuity of the Minny trade so a 3 way
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Beniers, Matt
3925 000 $
Clarke, Brandt
3925 000 $
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BUF
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. Lind, Kole [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
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6th overall

One of Lind, Woo or Dipietro
VAN
  1. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
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BUF
  1. Boldy, Matthew
  2. Dumba, Matt
  3. Greenway, Jordan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
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BUF
  1. Strålman, Anton
  2. Tippett, Owen
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
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15 mai 2021 à 12 h 21
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All those great picks in the most crapshoot draft you could dream up... doesn’t actually bode that well imo
15 mai 2021 à 12 h 22
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Quoting: GuentzelvaniaUSA
All those great picks in the most crapshoot draft you could dream up... doesn’t actually bode that well imo


I think this draft is underrated. Clarke has top pairing potential, Beniers can create a great 1-2 centre punch with Cozens
15 mai 2021 à 12 h 24
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You can keep Reinhart. Also interesting to note, he's removed BUF from his IG profile. He's gonna leave anyway.
15 mai 2021 à 12 h 26
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Quoting: csick
I think this draft is underrated. Clarke has top pairing potential, Beniers can create a great 1-2 centre punch with Cozens


I just mean that because of the pandemic, we’ve lost a ton of scouting and potential info on these kids. Everything outside the top 10 is unpredictable. Those second round picks aren’t as valuable as they normally might be
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15 mai 2021 à 12 h 28
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This is neat

Value underwhelming for Eichel ultimately

But a tactful approach ✔
15 mai 2021 à 12 h 29
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Quoting: csick
I think this draft is underrated. Clarke has top pairing potential, Beniers can create a great 1-2 centre punch with Cozens


I think you're both right to extents

Unique scenario ultimately

Eager to see how it plays out in a few decades
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15 mai 2021 à 12 h 30
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Value for Eichel isn't there, Vancouver could get a top 4 pick if they lose their remaining games. So i don't see Benning giving away that pick it might be even Luke Hughes, Vancouver and Buffalo both say no.
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15 mai 2021 à 12 h 31
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Quoting: TowelPower
You can keep Reinhart. Also interesting to note, he's removed BUF from his IG profile. He's gonna leave anyway.


?

What do you mean by "you can keep r"

Ah yes the noted top level journalist source of BarDown yeah I had that clickbait on my TL today too I'm not saying it's nothing but grain of salt, no?
15 mai 2021 à 12 h 32
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I like the Vancouver trade even though some people may not like it. Vancouver gets a top 6 player while Buffalo gets a high pick.

For the Eichel trade, the only thing I would switch is Boldy and Rossi. Rossi would be Eichel's "replacement" and the Sabres can reunite Rossi and Quinn. And switch the second to Pittsburgh's first
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15 mai 2021 à 12 h 34
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Quoting: Devil1122
I like the Vancouver trade even though some people may not like it. Vancouver gets a top 6 player while Buffalo gets a high pick.

For the Eichel trade, the only thing I would switch is Boldy and Rossi. Rossi would be Eichel's "replacement" and the Sabres can reunite Rossi and Quinn. And switch the second to Pittsburgh's first


Who was the last team to trade a top 5 pick away? Vancouver is not giving away a top pick for a player who will be an UFA next year.
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15 mai 2021 à 12 h 35
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Minny would start with rossi
15 mai 2021 à 12 h 40
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Quoting: GuentzelvaniaUSA
All those great picks in the most crapshoot draft you could dream up... doesn’t actually bode that well imo


This narrative is getting blown WAY out of proportion. Where the draft will get silly is in the late rounds with some real steals. It's not like the 1st round is some complete mystery box. We know which players are really good, There's just a lot more debate over who is best.
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15 mai 2021 à 12 h 40
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Quoting: BubbleDemko
Who was the last team to trade a top 5 pick away? Vancouver is not giving away a top pick for a player who will be an UFA next year.


I don't think they'll have a top 5. They have 4 games left and if they win at least two games, they'll have the 9th pick (assuming they don't win the lottery). Reinhart is an RFA born in Vancouver. He'll sign long term.
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15 mai 2021 à 12 h 45
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Quoting: Devil1122
I don't think they'll have a top 5. They have 4 games left and if they win at least two games, they'll have the 9th pick (assuming they don't win the lottery). Reinhart is an RFA born in Vancouver. He'll sign long term.


You haven't looked at the roster they are dressing then. They are playing a tank roster and will finish in 3 rd or 4 th. Teams don't trade top 10 picks. You are going to see an underwhelming return on a few players . Reinhart will sign long term in Vancouver but it does not have to be this year . It can be next year.
15 mai 2021 à 12 h 51
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Quoting: Devil1122
I like the Vancouver trade even though some people may not like it. Vancouver gets a top 6 player while Buffalo gets a high pick.

For the Eichel trade, the only thing I would switch is Boldy and Rossi. Rossi would be Eichel's "replacement" and the Sabres can reunite Rossi and Quinn. And switch the second to Pittsburgh's first


One of the best comments here in a fair while

Even positive and constructive 👍

Tricky with Rossi having no D+1 year yet though tbf
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15 mai 2021 à 12 h 53
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One of the best comments here in a fair while

Even positive and constructive 👍

Tricky with Rossi having no D+1 year yet though tbf


I was about to put Rossi instead , I’m very high on Boldy too. But I figured with Buffalo passing on Rossi in the draft, they may not be as high on him. But yeah if they can come out with Rossi, Tippett, Greenway and a couple of 1sts that’s a really good haul
15 mai 2021 à 12 h 58
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Quoting: csick
I was about to put Rossi instead , I’m very high on Boldy too. But I figured with Buffalo passing on Rossi in the draft, they may not be as high on him. But yeah if they can come out with Rossi, Tippett, Greenway and a couple of 1sts that’s a really good haul


Because idiot Krueger liked Quinn better.
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15 mai 2021 à 13 h 1
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Rossi + Boldy/Greenway + two 1st I hope. Dumba is optional
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15 mai 2021 à 13 h 3
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Rossi + Boldy/Greenway + two 1st I hope. Dumba is optional


Yeah Buffalo don’t need Dumba but he would be part of a 3 way trade if need be and Buffalo can retain too to get more out of it
15 mai 2021 à 13 h 3
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Florida can't protect dumba
Unless this is after ED
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15 mai 2021 à 13 h 9
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Quoting: GuentzelvaniaUSA
I just mean that because of the pandemic, we’ve lost a ton of scouting and potential info on these kids. Everything outside the top 10 is unpredictable. Those second round picks aren’t as valuable as they normally might be


Information asymmetry = value creation
The mid round picks are MORE valuable to teams that have good scouting departments.
(Unfortunately, Buffalo has pretty thin amateur scouting team)

Quoting: Claesson4Norris
This narrative is getting blown WAY out of proportion. Where the draft will get silly is in the late rounds with some real steals. It's not like the 1st round is some complete mystery box. We know which players are really good, There's just a lot more debate over who is best.

I am 100% with this.
There will be a team that will seek to stockpile mid round selections from OHL, USHS....and do very well.
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15 mai 2021 à 13 h 14
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Quoting: BubbleDemko
You haven't looked at the roster they are dressing then. They are playing a tank roster and will finish in 3 rd or 4 th. Teams don't trade top 10 picks. You are going to see an underwhelming return on a few players . Reinhart will sign long term in Vancouver but it does not have to be this year . It can be next year.


If they get at least 1 point in 4 games (very possible) they'll get 5-7 pick. The chances of the Canucks drafting a player as better than Reinhart isn't that high. The reason top 10 picks don't get traded often is because top 10 picks are usually really good. This draft is weaker than most drafts. Reinhart just had one of his best season's of his career on a horrible Sabres team. Reinhart wants out of Buffalo and im guessing he'll sign a long term extension once he gets dealt
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15 mai 2021 à 13 h 15
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Quoting: csick
I was about to put Rossi instead , I’m very high on Boldy too. But I figured with Buffalo passing on Rossi in the draft, they may not be as high on him. But yeah if they can come out with Rossi, Tippett, Greenway and a couple of 1sts that’s a really good haul


Im guessing the reason they passed on Rossi is because they had Eichel and Cozens as their centers. Or because they are really dumb
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15 mai 2021 à 13 h 17
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Quoting: Devil1122
If they get at least 1 point in 4 games (very possible) they'll get 5-7 pick. The chances of the Canucks drafting a player as better than Reinhart isn't that high. The reason top 10 picks don't get traded often is because top 10 picks are usually really good. This draft is weaker than most drafts. Reinhart just had one of his best season's of his career on a horrible Sabres team. Reinhart wants out of Buffalo and im guessing he'll sign a long term extension once he gets dealt


I know all the facts but you are not getting a top 10 pick. Vancouver fanbase would go nuts. The media would have a field day about the ineptness of management. I think you will be looking at Schmidt and this years second round pick or Vancouver would just walk away.
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15 mai 2021 à 14 h 34
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Information asymmetry = value creation
The mid round picks are MORE valuable to teams that have good scouting departments.
(Unfortunately, Buffalo has pretty thin amateur scouting team)


I am 100% with this.
There will be a team that will seek to stockpile mid round selections from OHL, USHS....and do very well.


Even beyond that I think there will be real opportunities for teams to invite promising prospects who fall through the cracks to camp, then sign them for free. There will also probably be a good amount of D+1 guys taken in the 2022 draft.
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