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Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 28 avr. 2021
Publié: 28 avr. 2021
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What would it cost? I think Drouin could rebuild himself next to one of McDavid/Draisaitl.
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    I don’t like to speculate, but it seems that Drouin’s been in the dog house for a while now. I’m hoping and praying that whatever happened was minor and he just needs some time off.

    It’s no secret that Drouin has been blamed for having bad games, that happens to every player, but I’m not sure if he’s happy in Montreal (this is a baseless claim, feel free to discuss it in the comments, this is only a “what if” post).
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    28 avr. 2021 à 11 h 52
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    I do think Drouin would flourish next to Draisaitl, but if he's traded I'd want a puck-moving dman in return. I don't think he's unhappy playing for his childhood team, but he's got issues and just left indefinitely for personal reasons.
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    28 avr. 2021 à 11 h 53
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    Quoting: SevenLeg
    I do think Drouin would flourish next to Draisaitl, but if he's traded I'd want a puck-moving dman in return. I don't think he's unhappy playing for his childhood team, but he's got issues and just left indefinitely for personal reasons.


    Yea I don’t think he gets moved, but it’s not something that’s completely off of the table.
    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 4
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    Quoting: SevenLeg
    I do think Drouin would flourish next to Draisaitl, but if he's traded I'd want a puck-moving dman in return. I don't think he's unhappy playing for his childhood team, but he's got issues and just left indefinitely for personal reasons.


    Yeah give us a defense Prospect and take his full salary, before the expansion draft and he is yours.

    He cant even fill a sweater at this point. What total disaster.
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    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 17
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    Quoting: jpsnow13
    Yeah give us a defense Prospect and take his full salary, before the expansion draft and he is yours.

    He cant even fill a sweater at this point. What total disaster.


    Ouch, thats a little rough... he hasn't been good for sure but I wouldn't say a disaster.
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    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 19
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    Quoting: jpsnow13
    Yeah give us a defense Prospect and take his full salary, before the expansion draft and he is yours.

    He cant even fill a sweater at this point. What total disaster.


    MAN, that's low class to say disaster when he's a playmaker with 21 pass in 44 games... in a bad year

    Gomez was a disaster
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    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 20
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    Drouin is not in the “dog house” of anyone related to the organization. A bunch of “fans” who follow the team do hate him for no reason though.
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    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 20
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    Quoting: F50marco
    Ouch, thats a little rough... he hasn't been good for sure but I wouldn't say a disaster.


    IDK why @jpsnow13 is exagerating that much, but this is the perfect exemple of media toxicity
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    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 23
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    I don't think he will be traded but if he is, I think we will ask someone like Ethan Bear because we don't have much RHD prospects and Weber is aging.
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    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 27
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    Quoting: jpsnow13
    He cant even fill a sweater at this point. What total disaster.


    We still don't know what's keeping him aside for now and we don't know for how long it's been his head. He was amazing in the first half of the season, and maybe the event occurred mid-season.
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    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 42
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    Quoting: jpsnow13
    Yeah give us a defense Prospect and take his full salary, before the expansion draft and he is yours.

    He cant even fill a sweater at this point. What total disaster.


    Take a break from CF for a little bit, maybe even social media as a whole.
    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 44
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    Quoting: F50marco
    Ouch, thats a little rough... he hasn't been good for sure but I wouldn't say a disaster.


    How would call his season? Successful?

    Quoting: CeceHuey
    MAN, that's low class to say disaster when he's a playmaker with 21 pass in 44 games... in a bad year

    Gomez was a disaster

    At least Gomez was able to do a zone entry with the puck or win a corner battle, while picking up assists...

    Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
    Drouin is not in the “dog house” of anyone related to the organization. A bunch of “fans” who follow the team do hate him for no reason though.


    He is a soft pereferial player who's scared to pay the price to get quality chances. Say it isn't true.

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    IDK why @jpsnow13 is exagerating that much, but this is the perfect exemple of media toxicity


    I can make my own opinion thanks.

    It's not exagerating to say that a top 3 overall, paid 5M a year, with a 2 goal season, who cant play anymore, is a disaster.
    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 47
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    We still don't know what's keeping him aside for now and we don't know for how long it's been his head. He was amazing in the first half of the season, and maybe the event occurred mid-season.


    Your expectations were very low.

    Quoting: Ritzy
    Take a break from CF for a little bit, maybe even social media as a whole.


    If everyone who's have been disapointed by Drouin would leave CF, there wouldn't be much left.
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    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 50
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    Quoting: jpsnow13
    Yeah give us a defense Prospect and take his full salary, before the expansion draft and he is yours.

    He cant even fill a sweater at this point. What total disaster.


    Lol, not sure if Oil would take him for free, the cap space can be better spent elsewhere.
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    28 avr. 2021 à 12 h 52
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    I’d offer up James Neal and Samorukov for Drouin. Both have two years left on their deals.
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    Quoting: jpsnow13
    He is a soft pereferial player who's scared to pay the price to get quality chances. Say it isn't true.


    He’s lacking confidence and needs to get I the mindset of shooting the puck more. He isn’t scared of getting hit or “paying the price”, but he needs to keep it in his head that his shot is also dangerous. This isn’t something that can’t be fixed with a bit of practice though.
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    Quoting: jpsnow13
    Your expectations were very low.



    If everyone who's have been disapointed by Drouin would leave CF, there wouldn't be much left.


    There's quite a difference between disappointing and disaster
    28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 4
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    Quoting: jpsnow13
    How would call his season? Successful?


    I mean I literally said "he hasn't been good for sure but I wouldn't say a disaster."

    A disaster would be him not having any points and being a nuisance to the team. he's been far from that. With that said, he hasn't been "good" like I said.

    His leave of absence may not be for forever either so he still has 2 years on his contract to come back to whenever that is. If he calls the quits, then you can call the entirety of his time here whatever you want.

    You are also not wrong with your assessment of his playing ability. Since his arrival with the Habs he's been the 5th most scoring player during that time. That's not nothing.

    And if anyone is subconsciously using the Sergachev comparison in their assessment of Drouin, blame the architect for that one, not the brick layer.
    28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 19
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    I mean I literally said "he hasn't been good for sure but I wouldn't say a disaster."

    A disaster would be him not having any points and being a nuisance to the team. he's been far from that. With that said, he hasn't been "good" like I said.

    His leave of absence may not be for forever either so he still has 2 years on his contract to come back to whenever that is. If he calls the quits, then you can call the entirety of his time here whatever you want.

    You are also not wrong with your assessment of his playing ability. Since his arrival with the Habs he's been the 5th most scoring player during that time. That's not nothing.

    And if anyone is subconsciously using the Sergachev comparison in their assessment of Drouin, blame the architect for that one, not the brick layer.


    It's all a matter of expectation.

    Were the expectations always too high for him, based on draft position, trade and contract?

    Or, did he simply just not realise his full potential, because of X reasons? (an attitude problem, injuries, whatever is his personal reason, etc... )

    Based on what I have seen of his puck handling elite talent, I don't have a choice to say the later. And Im pretty sure the architects didn’t based their opinion on pure speculation neither.
    28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 21
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    Quoting: SevenLeg
    There's quite a difference between disappointing and disaster


    How much lower can it get? Not playing with a zero goal season?
    28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 25
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    Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
    He’s lacking confidence and needs to get I the mindset of shooting the puck more. He isn’t scared of getting hit or “paying the price”, but he needs to keep it in his head that his shot is also dangerous. This isn’t something that can’t be fixed with a bit of practice though.


    We don't even know for sure it can be fixed.

    Hey I dont even blame the guy. If I was him, after the commotions he had, I might even call it quit. Better that then risking your health like Shaw.
    28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 37
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    How much lower can it get? Not playing with a zero goal season?


    It can get lower than 51.8 xG%, 0.52 P/GP and 1.53 P/60, that's for sure
    28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 38
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    Quoting: jpsnow13
    How would call his season? Successful?


    At least Gomez was able to do a zone entry with the puck or win a corner battle, while picking up assists...



    He is a soft pereferial player who's scared to pay the price to get quality chances. Say it isn't true.



    I can make my own opinion thanks.

    It's not exagerating to say that a top 3 overall, paid 5M a year, with a 2 goal season, who cant play anymore, is a disaster.


    DAMN MAN,i never say sucssesful, you put word in mouth, it's a bad year for him
    and if you say's that gomez is better than Drouin tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy

    you talk about salary, gomez was more paid to be 1st center and never deliver, he was going in the corner and lose the puck,

    If you want to be negative , Keep your opinion... cause negative opinions are like STD, you better keep for yourself
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    Quoting: jpsnow13
    Your expectations were very low. .


    Being able to understand a situation, and having expectations are two differents thing,

    low class and not able to understand situation, plus you are so negative, toxic opinions

    Damn you must be young BOY , 13yo ?
    28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 43
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    Quoting: SevenLeg
    It can get lower than 51.8 xG%, 0.52 P/GP and 1.53 P/60, that's for sure


    Advanced stats people are the same one who say basic stats doesn’t mean anything.

    Drouin always loose the puck dribling, doesn't compete on 1 on 1 along the board, doesn’t go in front of the net and has a poor defensive game. I don't need to look at charts to know that.
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    Advanced stats people are the same one who say basic stats doesn’t mean anything.

    Drouin always loose the puck dribling, doesn't compete on 1 on 1 along the board, doesn’t go in front of the net and has a poor defensive game. I don't need to look at charts to know that.


    Two stats out of the three I used are basic, they're just shown on a per game and per 60 minutes rate. It's no charts. I'm not saying he's the second coming of Stéphane Richer, he's just not as bad as you think he is.

    Did we lose the trade? Yeah, easily.
    Is he worth 5.5m$ a year? Meh, not ideal but there are far worse contracts out there.
    Is he performing at the level we expected him to? No
    Is he hopeless complete failure? Come on man
     
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