Middle / bottom 6 forward
Good prospect
Late 1st

Podkolzin/Woo
1st
add a bit more if Woo over Podkolzin

The Canucks shouldnt trade for Rakell

The team isnt going anywhere right now. Rakell is someone a team should add to go over the top. Hes a UFA next summer, probably doesnt stick around

Trading away a 1st would be a horrible idea

LOL no. I would do Podkolzon for Rakell+

So that first deal? Virtanen (middle/bottom 6 FWD), Juolevi/Rathbone (good prospect), 2021 2nd round pick (early 2nd, essentially late first)



This seems like a higher ask but J. Rathbone is a better prospect than J. Woo

Hmm, I disagree. I think Rakell is the exact kind of player the Canucks should be looking to add. I agree we are not a playoff team right now but I seriously believe, with the right moves, we could contend to be there next year. Imo, that requires a better/more skilled FWD group (ie. incorporating a Rakell and Podkolzin and maybe a legit 3C) and making our Defence more mobile. Rakell is in the right age range to contribute now and for the next 5 years.

Agreed though that a 1st rounder is scary so thats why a 2nd plus a decent prospect could be doable from VANs persepctive?

Ducks dont have a need for more prospects around the potential of guys like Mahura, Guhle, Thurn, Lacombe, etc... Woo would fill an organizational need on the right side of the blueline that Juolevi/Rathbone would not.

If we wouldnt trade Heinen for Virtanen theres no shot hes a main piece in a Rakell deal



Ducks dont trade Rakell for 2 seconds, they get a first + they need quality not quantity.

Virtanen and two seconds doesnt even get considered by the Ducks

All fair, I believe Virtanen/Heinen deal was a no-go due to salaries and not due to valuation of players involved. Woo fills the same need for us but I would be willing to part so what about this?

Rakell for J. Virtanen + J. Woo (B prospect) + 2021 2nd round pick (33th-38th pick ovr) + W. Lockwood (C+ FWD prospect)

Podkolzin is waaaay to volatile of a prospect to have that kind of value, hes has a value of a 1st round pick, no more no less

Rakell has the value of a first +

Was due to the Ducks not seeing Virtanen as worth his salary, essentially ANA doesnt see him having positive value so he'd be of very little (if any at all) interest to ANA in a Rakell deal

Goes back to my Quality over quantity thing, no need for Lockwood who is essentially a non-factor prospect.

Ducks have been firm on their ask of a 1st, a prospect and a roster player (not Virtanen unless you are retaining)

Fair, thank you for the discussion!

What has Rakell done in the past 3 years other than go on a shooting bender to warrant a 1st round pick in return?

having average of 52 points per 82 games, being a true top 6 forward who isnt a rental on a very affordable deal with retention possible, being able to play C/LW/RW.

Kevin Hayes got a first a fourth and a prospect as a pure rental, how is Rakell worth any less than that?

What has Podkolzin done to be worth more or even equal to that?

Tough to envision a trade with a Canadian team that benefits the north-of-the-border squad (we don't care about the quarantine because we're not going anywhere this year). And Vancouver doesn't have the kind of prospect(s) we're looking for. The only deal I'd be happy with is Podkolzin and a second, and that destroys the premise of your strategy. I guess I could live with this year's first, Jett Woo and Brogan Rafferty.

Tbh, Podkolzin is pretty close to untouchable. This kid has the potential to be a unique player in the league. I see Rakells value and would love to add him to the Canucks roster but at the expense of Podkolzin, I wouldnt.

He is 19/20, playing in the KHL and actually performing and being a difference maker on the ice now that they are giving him ice time. If SKA loses this playoff series we could see him play 5-10 games in the NHL this year and he will look ready.

A Rakell trade would occur in the offseason imo

Definitely fair, but I just see him as too volatile. with most prospects having a ceiling like his its a shock if they dont pan out, to me it wouldnt be a shock with him. (Not that my opinion holds a ton of weight)

I see him as more boom-or-bust rather than a sure thing

Rickard Rakell 2018-2020: 134GP, 33G, 85P, .63PPG
Andreas Johnsson 2018-2020 116GP, 28G, 64P, .55PPG
Johnsson had 3 yrs left at 3.4 Rakell is 1.5 yrs left at 3.7
One was moved for an AHLer winger with Bottom 6 upside and the other a 1st and a top prospect?

Kevin Hayes has a huge overpayment. Everyone knew that.

Honestly, based on what Im seeing (an hearing from other who know better than I do), Podkolzins floor is guaranteed at Top 9 but his ceiling is still being determined. Ultimately, we will find out in 2-5 years haha

AJ played on one of the best offensive teams in the league, Rakell played on one of the worst for each of those seasons.

Its consensus Rakell is worth a 1st+, im not really saying anything crazy here.

We have different valuations of Podkolzin but yeah a good prospect and a first would be the least Rakell gets moved for

Thats a big appeal to majority there. Just because a lot of people think something is true doenst make it true.

I'll take the consensus of hockey experts and scouts over opinions of people on a forum

Personally I don't think VAN should be trading for Rakell.

VAN won't make the playoffs this year and there's a good chance they don't again next year. No need to trade decent prospects/picks for a player who's contract will expire before you get back to the playoffs, especially for a team like VAN who will have graduated almost all of their top prospects by next season, they need to restock the cupboards... again!

Sounds like an appeal to authority to me