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Équipe: 2021-22 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 23 mars 2021
Publié: 23 mars 2021
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Add Ekholm and Hamonic at TDL
Sign Danault to play with Schiefele and Wheeler
Sign some RFA's and UFA's
DeMelo exposed and taken by Seattle. 2022 CLB 3rd added to sweeten the pot.
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    23 mars 2021 à 23 h 21
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    Think Nashville might want Copp?
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    23 mars 2021 à 23 h 32
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Think Nashville might want Copp?


    I wish they wanted Copp.

    I like this though. Danault would be a good add to play on that line.
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    23 mars 2021 à 23 h 33
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    I wonder if we could scoop Palat or Killorn out of Tampa to help them with cap. Think Schmidt for a 3rd. Either of them could play LW on that top line
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    23 mars 2021 à 23 h 35
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    Quoting: tsyls
    I wish they wanted Copp.

    I like this though. Danault would be a good add to play on that line.


    Scheif at LW though? Not sure he’d go for that. At the start of the season he was talking about getting to Mcdavid/Matthews level, I’m not sure a move to the wing helps him get there
    23 mars 2021 à 23 h 41
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    Quoting: Boggsauce
    Scheif at LW though? Not sure he’d go for that. At the start of the season he was talking about getting to Mcdavid/Matthews level, I’m not sure a move to the wing helps him get there


    Why wouldn’t it? He would have less responsibilities, allowing him to focus on his offensive game.

    That’s just logical thinking, scheifele has too much of an ego for this to happen. He’d cry about it and ask for a trade
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    24 mars 2021 à 0 h 3
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    Modifié 24 mars 2021 à 0 h 8
    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Think Nashville might want Copp?


    From what I heard on TSN If Nashville decides to move Ekholm they want an Elite prospect (so basically an A or better) another asset (another prospect or nhl player) and a 1st. Dont know if Winnipeg would want to give up Heinola, Perfetti, or Samberg and on top of that Copp just dont see it happening unless they really feel they can go for it all.
    24 mars 2021 à 0 h 40
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    Quoting: Boggsauce
    I wonder if we could scoop Palat or Killorn out of Tampa to help them with cap. Think Schmidt for a 3rd. Either of them could play LW on that top line


    I could see it happening and I’ve thought about it. However, from the acgms that I’ve done, I don’t think it’s the best move for the jets. I think that money is better invested elsewhere. For example, if Erik Johnson gets picked up by Seattle he could be had for cheap by a team like the jets. He would seriously stabilize that top pair with JoMo.
    24 mars 2021 à 0 h 43
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    Quoting: aadoyle
    From what I heard on TSN If Nashville decides to move Ekholm they want an Elite prospect (so basically an A or better) another asset (another prospect or nhl player) and a 1st. Dont know if Winnipeg would want to give up Heinola, Perfetti, or Samberg and on top of that Copp just dont see it happening unless they really feel they can go for it all.


    From what I’ve heard on tv, they are either looking for short-long term prospect (ie NHL ready) or young nhl roster players. The asking price is also similar to the muzzin deal. Therefore, I’m thinking a package of Vesalainen, niku, and the first shoudl be more than enough. It also gives the press a potential top 6 player, a potential top 4 guy, and a 1st, the first two of which they can put directly into the lineup. All that for a top 4 D with 2 yrs left. It’s a good deal for both teams.
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    24 mars 2021 à 0 h 58
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    Modifié 24 mars 2021 à 1 h 6
    Quoting: arafay
    From what I’ve heard on tv, they are either looking for short-long term prospect (ie NHL ready) or young nhl roster players. The asking price is also similar to the muzzin deal. Therefore, I’m thinking a package of Vesalainen, niku, and the first shoudl be more than enough. It also gives the press a potential top 6 player, a potential top 4 guy, and a 1st, the first two of which they can put directly into the lineup. All that for a top 4 D with 2 yrs left. It’s a good deal for both teams.


    Pierre lebrun reported it yesterday. If any team wants to get in on Ekholm the bidding price starts with an elite prospect, a 1st round pick and another asset (another prospect or good player). Vesalainen does not sway the needle and Niku has little to no value at this point for Nashville.
    24 mars 2021 à 1 h 11
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    Pierre lebrun reported it yesterday. If any team wants to get in on Ekholm the bidding price starts with an elite prospect, a 1st round pick and another asset (another prospect or good player). Vesalainen does not sway the needle and Niku has little to no value at this point for Nashville.


    Yes I saw that just now. Idk, “elite prospect” is a very vague but also specific term. Imo, an “elite prospect” is a perfetti or heinola on the jets. That’s it. No one else is “elite”. Now if he means A prospect, the jets have a few of those in samberg, chisholm, Vesalainen and Stanley...maybe even smith. Now to your point of Vesalainen not moving the needle, I think he does. He’s only 21, he’s nhl ready (looked really good in the games he played...in fact, good enough that Maurice put him in the top 6), and he has top 6 potential. He’s also already at a middle 6 level imo. Therefore, I think he would be of interest as the centre peice of the deal. Now, that leaves niku. Apparently they are interested in him so...

    Therefore, I do think that this is a competitive offer compared to other teams.in fact, unless Toronto or philly comes along and offers Robertson, lilegren, or frost, I don’t see any team really beating that.

    On a separate note, don’t think defence is the issue anymore for the leafs. And adding ekholm to their 3rd pair won’t be worth it imo
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    24 mars 2021 à 7 h 45
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Think Nashville might want Copp?


    I am not a big Copp fan so if there was a way to make the Nashville trade now but have a prearranged trade after the season for Copp then if that what it takes to get Ekholm then I hope Nashville wants Copp.
    24 mars 2021 à 7 h 53
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    Quoting: Boggsauce
    I wonder if we could scoop Palat or Killorn out of Tampa to help them with cap. Think Schmidt for a 3rd. Either of them could play LW on that top line


    If Palat or Killorn would waive for Winnipeg then yes but I highly doubt it. I don't think Schmidt would waive for WPG as he has refused before (I am assuming it is Nate)
    24 mars 2021 à 7 h 55
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    Quoting: aadoyle
    From what I heard on TSN If Nashville decides to move Ekholm they want an Elite prospect (so basically an A or better) another asset (another prospect or nhl player) and a 1st. Dont know if Winnipeg would want to give up Heinola, Perfetti, or Samberg and on top of that Copp just dont see it happening unless they really feel they can go for it all.


    Agreed.
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    Quoting: aadoyle
    Pierre lebrun reported it yesterday. If any team wants to get in on Ekholm the bidding price starts with an elite prospect, a 1st round pick and another asset (another prospect or good player). Vesalainen does not sway the needle and Niku has little to no value at this point for Nashville.


    Lebrun and Dreger are just trying to sell their jobs on TSN.
    24 mars 2021 à 7 h 59
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    Yes I saw that just now. Idk, “elite prospect” is a very vague but also specific term. Imo, an “elite prospect” is a perfetti or heinola on the jets. That’s it. No one else is “elite”. Now if he means A prospect, the jets have a few of those in samberg, chisholm, Vesalainen and Stanley...maybe even smith. Now to your point of Vesalainen not moving the needle, I think he does. He’s only 21, he’s nhl ready (looked really good in the games he played...in fact, good enough that Maurice put him in the top 6), and he has top 6 potential. He’s also already at a middle 6 level imo. Therefore, I think he would be of interest as the centre peice of the deal. Now, that leaves niku. Apparently they are interested in him so...

    Therefore, I do think that this is a competitive offer compared to other teams.in fact, unless Toronto or philly comes along and offers Robertson, lilegren, or frost, I don’t see any team really beating that.

    On a separate note, don’t think defence is the issue anymore for the leafs. And adding ekholm to their 3rd pair won’t be worth it imo


    I also don't think Toronto is serious about Ekholm. Their problem is in the net.
    24 mars 2021 à 9 h 31
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    Id see what forsberg is worth for that top line, get savard give him a treeout this year and resign/go after dougie.

    Could u imagine forsberg in that top 6 jesus
    24 mars 2021 à 9 h 47
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    Id see what forsberg is worth for that top line, get savard give him a treeout this year and resign/go after dougie.

    Could u imagine forsberg in that top 6 jesus


    Who would he replace tho?

    I guess Stastny but he’s a placeholders till Perfetti’s ready and we both know Wheeler is staying in the top 6
    24 mars 2021 à 9 h 49
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    Quoting: tsyls
    Why wouldn’t it? He would have less responsibilities, allowing him to focus on his offensive game.

    That’s just logical thinking, scheifele has too much of an ego for this to happen. He’d cry about it and ask for a trade


    Lol dont think any centre list at Scheif’s level would take that nicely, not even putting him on his natural side
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    24 mars 2021 à 12 h 5
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    Quoting: Wpgman
    If Palat or Killorn would waive for Winnipeg then yes but I highly doubt it. I don't think Schmidt would waive for WPG as he has refused before (I am assuming it is Nate)


    I meant more that Van got a top 4 Dman for a third because Vegas was in cap trouble. Tampa will be in the same situation, unless Stamkos conveniently is injured all of next season lmao
    24 mars 2021 à 12 h 21
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    Quoting: aadoyle
    From what I heard on TSN If Nashville decides to move Ekholm they want an Elite prospect (so basically an A or better) another asset (another prospect or nhl player) and a 1st. Dont know if Winnipeg would want to give up Heinola, Perfetti, or Samberg and on top of that Copp just dont see it happening unless they really feel they can go for it all.


    That's too much, any GM that would give that is nuts, I meant maybe if they wanted Copp that might move the ask from an A-prospect to a B-prospect, maybe they'll get what they want but that's a steep ask, I wouldn't do it myself, there's plenty of UFA dmen available who while not as good as Ekholm would still help and not cost an insane amount to acquire.
    24 mars 2021 à 12 h 29
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    Scheif at LW though? Not sure he’d go for that. At the start of the season he was talking about getting to Mcdavid/Matthews level, I’m not sure a move to the wing helps him get there


    Too funny when Scheifele talks about those two like he's close to their level.
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    Quoting: Wpgman
    I am not a big Copp fan so if there was a way to make the Nashville trade now but have a prearranged trade after the season for Copp then if that what it takes to get Ekholm then I hope Nashville wants Copp.


    How are you not a Copp fan but are a Lowry fan?

    I was thinking maybe if Copp was offered that might take that A-prospect ask to a B-prospect, sounds like Poile wants a 1st, Copp type player and an A-prospect for Ekholm, that's way too much imo.
    24 mars 2021 à 13 h 22
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    Quoting: Boggsauce
    I meant more that Van got a top 4 Dman for a third because Vegas was in cap trouble. Tampa will be in the same situation, unless Stamkos conveniently is injured all of next season lmao


    OK, makes sense to ME now!
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    That's too much, any GM that would give that is nuts, I meant maybe if they wanted Copp that might move the ask from an A-prospect to a B-prospect, maybe they'll get what they want but that's a steep ask, I wouldn't do it myself, there's plenty of UFA dmen available who while not as good as Ekholm would still help and not cost an insane amount to acquire.


    Here's the thing though nashville really does not need to trade him. Even if they don't make the playoffs this year they can just keep him and retool next year. The price is high but in this flat cap era contracts like ekholms are a steal. A dman of his caliber in FA would cost a team 5-7mill. So yes the price is high but for teams wanting to win now it's worth it. Coleman was acquired for an elite prospect and a 1st and Tampa payed that because of the contract and the players skill. Dman are worth more so of course nashville would ask for another asset.
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    I also don't think Toronto is serious about Ekholm. Their problem is in the net.


    We had an injured goalie playing for us while Campbell was out but now that he's back toronto is fine in net. People just blow it out if proportion. Campbell can play till freddie gets healthy than were set again
     
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