Wings pass it's a 3rd for lgd, you can flip armia yourself for a pick, making it to complicated for an easy deal

Was going to comment and say Armia is more valuable than Glendening so this makes no sense, but then I see a wings fan say pass.

My brain hurts.

Armia has no value to the wings, he's just cap space for us. We are rebuilding. So keep him or trade him elsewhere. Realistic trade is LGD for a 3rd and it's fair

Yes that is a realistic trade, but as @yanleg96 pointed out you could easily flip Armia and turn Glendening into a 2nd and 4th... I have no idea why MTL would do this it makes no sense, but you said "wings pass" not "habs pass".

It's just creating more work for us. Well take the 3rd you can keep armia and call it a day

i mean dont get me wrong here, glendenning is more valuable for wings than armia and a simple 3rd which mtl have plenty will fetch a deal between teams, i know that. Each team win in this trade proposal more than only glendenning for a 3rd situation,. If mtl could afford the retained salary plus having glendenning. they would do this armia trade by themselves. But cap issues exists and this is why i include armia in that trade. However, you give us a a guy who cost 1.8m and we give you a guy that cost 2.6m and a 4th. You retained salary of 1.3m and gets a 2nd for it. For a team in rebuild a 2nd and a 4th instead of a 3rd only is in my opinion a better thing. You have cap space and money for that.

Armia is good for mtl but i think glendenning would have a better impact than him, especialy in playoffs for faceoffs. Also we need space on the cap to make some little moves by the end and we'll loose armia for nothing at the end of the year.

In a whacky universe where this is was actually offered and you were wings GM you would decline because it is too much work? Lol

This is the equivalent of DET offering Glendening and a 4th for Weal.. do you see how it makes no sense?

Habs pass.

i mean how much more work, i understand you have to trade him after but teams with low cap who's contender would take armia at 1.3m for a 2nd and run. i dont buy your more work argument.

@yanleg96 I feel like you are trying to cap gymnastics by trading Armia and Weal but it isn't necessary.

MTL actually daily accumulated cap space will be enough by the trade deadline, Armchair GM is season projected not updated daily.

Eh the wings dont pay Yzerman millions of dollars to try and maximize the teams assets with complicated things like making a second trade to improve the return. Thats too much work and a gm should not be expected to make an additional phone call just for better picks.

haha you are right, i mean as a gm you only want to improve your team no matter what and how hard you have to work, if this implies to call 15 teams, you'll do it. If you can have a 2nd and 4th with 500K less on your payroll, you wont be a good gm if you think this is not a better plan and the return isn't worth it.

Also just suppose you dont get a 2nd but a 3rd instead cause you have trouble selling armia. You get a 3rd a 4th and 500k less on you cap to pay . this deal still better than only a 3rd, but yeah as gm you have to make a bit more call to make than initially.

Habs add in a 4th for us to take weal. Wings pass as is, we don't want or need anything to do with armia

There is no guarantee you can get a 2nd for armia, rather just keep the 3rd and move on

It's very simple he is a UFA at the end of the season and most likely won't sign with Detroit at the end of the season. Plus Montreal isn't the only team interested in Glendening.

How does that make sense? First being able to flip a player isn't a selling point! Why would a team accept a trade were they have to turn around and trade a player and retain half of his salary just to break even. Let's be honest if Montreal could get a 2nd for Armia he'd already be gone!

Come on this is just common sense. Now my brain hurts!

1. Armia is more valuable than Glendening, imagine for a second that you had a player like Armia already on your team... you'd be asking for a 2nd.

2. Players getting flipped after being traded is nothing new bozo. See:
- Hoffman OTT to SJ to FLA
- Galchenyuk OTT to CAR to TOR
- Scandella BUF to MTL to STL

Thats just 3 examples off the top of my head in 10 seconds.

And what are you talking about just to break even? Since when does a 2nd and a 4th = a 3rd?

3. I would not trade Armia for a 2nd unless we were sellers at the deadline, which is not likely. MTL has no interest in trading Armia at this time which is why he hasn't been traded.

DET fans blow my mind on this site. (Not all, but seriously what's going on here, a proposal of Armia and a 4th for Glendening and wings fans are arguing no we want a 3rd.... LOL.)

In case you haven’t realized this was posted by a Montreal fan so no one is trying to force LGD down your throat like you are currently trying to do with Armia. I wouldn’t expect a 2nd for Armia because he isn’t worth it at all. Is Gagner worth a 2nd? No he isn’t but he is better than Armia just like Armia is better than LGD.

I have a couple problems with your 2nd point.
1. You should probably reread my post because I never said that flipping players didn’t happen. I just said it wasn’t smart and people do dumb stuff all the time.
2. If you want to argue that point and include examples. You should list all of the details of both trades in each example because I said just to break even Detroit would have to make another trade and the first trade in each of your examples could have been even trades and trading one of the players was just a bonus.

You should really reread my post because my breaking even comment was in response to yanleg96’s reasoning behind the Detroit trade (which I’ve included below. If you want to how he came to that conclusion you will have to ask Yanleg96. My comment was just a response to it.



I said Armia has little to no value from Detroit’s point of view because HE IS A UFA AT THE END OF THE SEASON AND MOST LIKELY WON’T SIGN IN DETROIT. What you would or wouldn’t trade him for really has no bearing here I just pointed out why he doesn’t have much value from Detroit’s pov.

Now the 3rd for Glendening is very likely because there are several teams that want him.

I could resort to name calling or make an ignorant bigoted generalization about Montreal fans like you did but the truth is there are quite a few Montreal fans that I like and even when I don’t agree with them I still respect opinion.