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Date de création initiale: 23 févr. 2021
Publié: 23 févr. 2021
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La is not giving you thier top prospects neither are the rangers nor anaheim. You guys want the top prospect from teams but other teams won't make that trade this is a buyers market for eichel. Your looking at maybe 5th prospect and down for the teams at the top of best prospect systems so from each team who you looking for. This trade will be quantity over quality
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    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 24
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    Sabres don't need to trade him so....
    Not sure how teams expect to not give up value even receiving value.
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    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 24
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    Ok so if the market is really like that (which it won’t) they will keep Eichel which is a better idea anyway!!
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    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 24
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    Everything you said is incorrect. 5 best prospect at best? Ok, Eichel will stay a Sabre. If that’s what teams are going to offer, the response will be move on.
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    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 28
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    Quoting: wojme
    Sabres don't need to trade him so....
    Not sure how teams expect to not give up value even receiving value.


    Quoting: Lsendel3
    Everything you said is incorrect. 5 best prospect at best? Ok, Eichel will stay a Sabre. If that’s what teams are going to offer, the response will be move on.


    Quoting: Sabres923
    Ok so if the market is really like that (which it won’t) they will keep Eichel which is a better idea anyway!!


    I agree he stays a sabre but that does seem what the market is. I believe that's why he was not traded this year is the value is not there. That's what I'm trying to get across
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 30
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    I agree he stays a sabre but that does seem what the market is. I believe that's why he was not traded this year is the value is not there. That's what I'm trying to get across


    The value will definitely be there. Especially now because he’s great defensively and has improved at the Face-off circle too.
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 32
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    I agree he stays a sabre but that does seem what the market is. I believe that's why he was not traded this year is the value is not there. That's what I'm trying to get across


    Or they signed Hall and wanted to take one more shot with him being competitive? Your way off thinking Eichel with 5 years left isn’t commanding a haul with a teams top prospect as part of it. PLD just pulled Laine and Roslivic, so Eichel would pull more value then that
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    The value will definitely be there. Especially now because he’s great defensively and has improved at the Face-off circle too.


    I'm not someone who follows the sabres but I wanted to open a discussion about it. From a rangers perspective I do not believe they make the trade due to what would have to be given up but what teams do you guys think might pull the trigger
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 36
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    Or they signed Hall and wanted to take one more shot with him being competitive? Your way off thinking Eichel with 5 years left isn’t commanding a haul with a teams top prospect as part of it. PLD just pulled Laine and Roslivic, so Eichel would pull more value then that


    Laine and pld where pretty close in value roslovic was because laine is not a center to even it out. But both players hurt their value and who knows what other teams offered
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 37
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    Or they signed Hall and wanted to take one more shot with him being competitive? Your way off thinking Eichel with 5 years left isn’t commanding a haul with a teams top prospect as part of it. PLD just pulled Laine and Roslivic, so Eichel would pull more value then that


    that trade was a player swap of two players who didnt fit where they were PLD requested a trade. if the sabers once again miss the playoffs eichel could request a trade which at that point buffalo has no leverage
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 39
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    Quoting: wojme
    Sabres don't need to trade him so....
    Not sure how teams expect to not give up value even receiving value.


    that is until he requests a trade after 6 seasons of no playoffs
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 40
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    Laine and pld where pretty close in value roslovic was because laine is not a center to even it out. But both players hurt their value and who knows what other teams offered


    So both “hurt” their value (semi disagree agree). Eichel will pull more then PLD because he’s better then PLD. Laine is a 40 goal scoring winger. The Rangers wingers while chalked with potential haven’t proven it. My point is you aren’t getting Eichel for a 5th best prospect, and when you say stuff like that you aren’t asking for a discussion, you are being ignorant.
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 41
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    I agree that the final package would be less, probably far less, than many of the posts here. But I think it will be mostly NHL players returning to BUF considering we are probably at flat cap for 3-4 more years.
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    Quoting: jasonliq
    that trade was a player swap of two players who didnt fit where they were PLD requested a trade. if the sabers once again miss the playoffs eichel could request a trade which at that point buffalo has no leverage


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    that trade was a player swap of two players who didnt fit where they were PLD requested a trade. if the sabers once again miss the playoffs eichel could request a trade which at that point buffalo has no leverage


    Sure they do. He’s signed for 5 more years. You act like they have to give into his demands to trade him. They don’t.
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    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 42
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    So both “hurt” their value (semi disagree agree). Eichel will pull more then PLD because he’s better then PLD. Laine is a 40 goal scoring winger. The Rangers wingers while chalked with potential haven’t proven it. My point is you aren’t getting Eichel for a 5th best prospect, and when you say stuff like that you aren’t asking for a discussion, you are being ignorant.


    what are you talking about why are you acting like all you are getting is a 5th best prospect and thats it you would be getting multiple prospects and picks probably at least 2 firsts.
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 42
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    that trade was a player swap of two players who didnt fit where they were PLD requested a trade. if the sabers once again miss the playoffs eichel could request a trade which at that point buffalo has no leverage


    "that trade was a player swap of two players who didnt fit where they were PLD requested a trade. if the Rangers once again miss the playoffs Lafreniere could request a trade which at that point New York has no leverage

    Do you see how ridiculous your statement is? Eichel is under contract for 5 more years after this one. His NMC doesn't kick in until 2022-2023. There's quite literally one person who doesn't have leverage, and that's Eichel.
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 43
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    So both “hurt” their value (semi disagree agree). Eichel will pull more then PLD because he’s better then PLD. Laine is a 40 goal scoring winger. The Rangers wingers while chalked with potential haven’t proven it. My point is you aren’t getting Eichel for a 5th best prospect, and when you say stuff like that you aren’t asking for a discussion, you are being ignorant.


    5th best for a team like the kings is 1st on most teams thats what I mean not for all teams but like the rangers 1st best prospect is lundqvist ducks is zegres la is byfield your not getting them
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    I'm sure you are wrong, although the deal may not be for prospects.
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 44
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    what are you talking about why are you acting like all you are getting is a 5th best prospect and thats it you would be getting multiple prospects and picks probably at least 2 firsts.


    Did you read the guys description? Literally says fifth best prospect and down. Or did you just bypass that
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 44
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    Sure they do. He’s signed for 5 more years. You act like they have to give into his demands to trade him. They don’t.


    yeah thats a good way to keep the locker room happy let a guy that doesnt wanna be with you be miserable and not play to there full potential youd be an atrocious gm
    23 févr. 2021 à 13 h 46
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    5th best for a team like the kings is 1st on most teams thats what I mean not for all teams but like the rangers 1st best prospect is lundqvist ducks is zegres la is byfield your not getting them


    That’s saying that Sam ****rmo or Tobias Bjornfot would be teams top prospect.. and if they are you have the worst pool in the league.
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    Quoting: Lsendel3
    Did you read the guys description? Literally says fifth best prospect and down. Or did you just bypass that


    the rangers 5th best prospect is better then most teams top guys me personally i think 5th is a little low you wouldnt get laf no kakko he also said youd get quantity, orrrr did you bypass that?
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    yeah thats a good way to keep the locker room happy let a guy that doesnt wanna be with you be miserable and not play to there full potential youd be an atrocious gm


    Literally taking a lesser return because a player is disgruntled is exactly how GMs get fired.. it’s called maximizing assets. If watching the ROR debacle proved anything it’s that you don’t do what you are suggesting
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    the rangers 5th best prospect is better then most teams top guys me personally i think 5th is a little low you wouldnt get laf no kakko he also said youd get quantity, orrrr did you bypass that?


    You don’t trade top assets for quantity. Or you will forever be bad. Getting a combo of low second or high third line players for Eichel is how you remain sucking forever. Watching the ROR trade is lesson learned and set the franchise back multiple years by bending the knee to the player
    23 févr. 2021 à 14 h 9
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    rangers won't give up laf, miller, or kakko (who I do not consider a prospect anymore). However, they have other prospects who would be the best prospect on other teams. For instance, nils; Schneider, and kravstov. My prediction is Eichel to the rangers for Kravstov, 2021 1st, Nils, Strome, and a conditional 2022 1st.
    23 févr. 2021 à 14 h 29
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    Quoting: wojme
    Sabres don't need to trade him so....
    Not sure how teams expect to not give up value even receiving value.


    Exactly! Why would a team want to acquire Eichel? Is it because he is great? Either you want Jack Eichel and are willing to pay the price or you don’t really want Jack Eichel. There is no Jack for scraps deal to be made. If you think up a Jack for scraps trade you are just fooling yourself. Better to come to grips with paying the price it takes or just forget about wanting Eichel because you don’t want him bad enough. Any deal with LA starts with Byfield and 1sts. Any deal with NY starts with Laf, Fox, and 1sts. That’s it. This is not Buffalo bias. This is the way it is.
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