2 years takes shesty to UFA

Same story with Merzlikins. I think he wanted it for a reason.

As tempting as that is I am not too keen on giving up 2 of our top 3 prospects + a first rounder + mikheyev + 2 more 2nd rounders for a UFA that will not be on the team the following year. Even if he wanted to stay and take a discount we can't afford him.

The Leafs would much better off, finding another 3C at 2.65m, and keeping all those picks and prospects for one year of Zib. Like 100 times better off.

That's pretty good value for Colorado tbh, but I don't think they'd do it. Strome just isn't the type of center they need at 3C.

Also, I don't think Sakic is all too keen on trading Pateryn. He's the big shutdown RHS insurance for our PK in the playoffs in case Johnson gets injured again.

It's a tough call, I agree, but thinking that Leafs core is young, they have lots and lots of talent there, and having a top-6 lines of Tavares-Matthews-Marner and Robertson-Zibanejad-Nylander would be insane, if they went full throttle to the cup run. Plus they gain a new goalie, and a Georgiev-Campbell goalie tandem costing around $4M is a very cost effective one in my opinion.

Losing Amirov and Sandin...while it hurts, it doesn't affect their current core.

Long-term probably obviously, but should they go full out, a move like this is a very effective one.

Can't see Zibanejad being a 3C at TOR though. Statistically he was the best goal scorer in the league last year.

I meant if they lose Kerfoot to Seattle, they find a centre for about 2.6m

Can't know what shesterkin wants yet

Massive overpay for Zibanejad. I get that's he's been good, but there's no reason why he should get more than what New Jersey got for Taylor Hall. You'd be able to get 1 top prospect, but not 2 of their top 3 plus a 1st round pick. Likely Sandin might be available with their depth on d, but the team is extremely high on him.

& Toronto isn't the team to do it. He'd be a 3C (maybe 2C if they move Tavares to the top line with Matthews and Marner) but they wouldn't be able to afford to re-sign him when they have guys like Rielly soon, then Matthews and Nylander right after. Signing Zibanejad long term would basically guarantee losing at least 2 of them.

Shop elsewhere. Colorado would be a good team to target. They have tons of good prospects and are in win now mode.

Ah yes.

Yep. Just used a comparable in Merzlikins...their career paths are quite similar.

I mean the reason is that he's a center and is better than Hall but I wouldn't do this either as tempting as it is

It does actually. Sandin will be getting likely top 4 mins towards the end of the season, Amirov will be the guy like Robertson this year that will be a cheap add to the top 9, likely a top 6 as the guy that compliments them and keeps them under the cap with a competitive roster.

You're price is just insanely too high. I don't think any team gives up 2 of its top 3 prospects, plus a 1st rounder, and 2 other 2nd round picks for a guy they'd likely have for a season and a half (keep in mind this season is shorter so it's even less games than usual)

Hall had a MVP on his resume. Zibanejad doesn't. That would be a major argument as to saying he's "better than Hall"

Two reasons why Zibanejad gets massively better return than Hall did
- since we can't really tell how well he's gonna play during 2020-21 season, I based the value on 2019-20 season. He was statistically the best goal scorer in the league, and is due to that immensely valuable.
- he's a center. By nature, centers are more valuable than wingers.

Toronto is in a win now mode as well, with good prospects. I don't see how these teams differ from each other, with the exception of COL also investing depth, not only to their top guys. Which one is the way to go, only time will tell, but it makes a TOR fan sound a very much like hypocrite when they're selling themselves as a top contender, but says at the same time that they're not in win now mode.

Money is going to be tough, but as said, this is based on TOR going all out now.

Jesus, no. That's just far too much for a rental. I don't care who it is.

Consider me surprised if Sandin and Amirov really starts banking on these minutes. Sandin is the 8th D in TOR depth chart...Amirov doesn't even have a contract yet.

Yeah two years before he was moved. He regressed into a below a PPG player afterwards, although part of it was due to an injury.

Sandin will get the minutes, they're just seeing what they have in the other guys first.
Amirov will be a couple years down the road (poor wording in my part last post) and will play the role of Robertson this year

just because you're in win now mode doesn't mean you trade all of your prospects away to fill a need that you don't have. They are hoping to keep the window open for many years and throwing away so many future ELC contributors would be a mistake. I would be open to trading one of them, but not both.

Well tell me, what would you drop?

Well would it make more sense if I replaced Amirov with Hirvonen for instance?

But idk why shesty would want out, I think 1 year can be mutually beneficial

Don't think so. He's outing in KHL has been somewhat disappointing this year. I don't think he's making an appearance in NHL until 2022-23 kicks in, possibly even later.

He ain't ready yet.