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ZiggyPalfy Iafallo and Spence for Liljegren

Créé par: leafs101
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 26 janv. 2021
Publié: 26 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Iafallo, Alex (1 212 500 $ retained)
  2. Spence, Jordan
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26 janv. 2021 à 16 h 48
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Pull the tryger, @tryger.

Sorry I've waited a long time to do that.
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26 janv. 2021 à 16 h 49
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why is everyone keep on trading liljgren
26 janv. 2021 à 16 h 49
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why is everyone keep on trading liljgren


I don't think they need to but this would be pretty damn good. I think we need another reliable top 6 forward. And spence is a downgrade but at least gives us a prospect replacement
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26 janv. 2021 à 17 h 7
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I don't know why the Kings would do this. They have 3 serviceable NHL RHD in Doughty, Walker and Roy. They have three quality prospects in Faber, Grans, and Spence. They also have a meh prospect in Durzi. What they don't have is capable top-six wingers. Sure, Liljegren could turn into an upgrade, but swapping him for Iafallo opens up a gap in the roster with no one to fill it.

Kings should be trading for top-six wingers, not dumping them. I expect we'll get news about a 2-3 year Iafallo extension by April.
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26 janv. 2021 à 18 h 8
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We're not trading Iafallo for Liljegren even up, any more than we're trading Iafallo for Dermott and Hallander.
26 janv. 2021 à 18 h 26
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Quoting: leafs101
I don't think they need to but this would be pretty damn good. I think we need another reliable top 6 forward. And spence is a downgrade but at least gives us a prospect replacement


This is a garbage trade. Iafallo is completely unnecessary and Spence is likely never going to make the NHL. All for exactly the type of prospect TO needs. A defensively responsible 2 way Right Handed defenceman. Just absolutely a total waste of assets.
26 janv. 2021 à 18 h 28
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We're not trading Iafallo for Liljegren even up, any more than we're trading Iafallo for Dermott and Hallander.


Only the "we should overhaul half the roster weekly" TO fans want to make a trade like this. The Leafs don't need a top 6 forward, we have enough forwards.
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26 janv. 2021 à 18 h 40
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I don't know why the Kings would do this. They have 3 serviceable NHL RHD in Doughty, Walker and Roy. They have three quality prospects in Faber, Grans, and Spence. They also have a meh prospect in Durzi. What they don't have is capable top-six wingers. Sure, Liljegren could turn into an upgrade, but swapping him for Iafallo opens up a gap in the roster with no one to fill it.

Kings should be trading for top-six wingers, not dumping them. I expect we'll get news about a 2-3 year Iafallo extension by April.


Do you really think the Kings can draft 2 RD in the 2nd round and solidify their future right side that easily? You're smarter than that... Grans can't play defense, unless he improves that he won't make the NHL. If he does, he'll be nothing but a 2nd or 3rd pair offensive defenseman who's probably going to be a liability.

In case you weren't paying attention, Faber doesn't have the offensive upside the be the #2 guy behind Doughty. Unless we get a two way guy for the left side, I doubt he'll see much of the 2nd pair. Probably the 3rd pair, if he makes the NHL at all.

Spence has top 4 potential, but he still needs to work on defense. He's nothing, but an offensive defenseman. We don't need those types of defensemen.

Liljegren has top 4 upside and draws some comparisons to Doughty(won't be that good most likely) he has gotten way better defensively. A little bit of time in Ontario with the Kings development staff and he should be good to go. At the cost of Iafallo and Spence I'd say its worth it. Adding Spence was my idea and probably isn't even needed.

Walker has 1 point and a -1 and as you've said before isn't that great of a top 4 guy. We can trade him.

Why would the Kings resign a 27 year old LW when they have guys like Grundstrom, Turcotte, Andersson, and Kempe. The younger guys need minutes and Iaffalo blocks them from getting that.

If they extend Iafallo, it's only to trade him for a bigger return the next year.

I'm so sick of your know-it-all complex when it comes to the Kings. You can't tell me because the Kings have Grans, Faber, and Spence the Kings are all set at RD lol. Yes, Kings need 3 more top 6 wingers assuming Turcotte and Kaliyev pan out and that's also assuming you don't think Grundstrom, Andersson, ****emo, Kupari, and Simontaival won't develop into that. They get that in this draft, free agency, or use our other prospects to aquire them. Kupari, Thomas, Madden, Spence, and Grans are all pieces that could be used in a trade for a top 6 winger as well as 1st round picks when some of our top tier prospects become NHL regulars.
26 janv. 2021 à 18 h 42
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We're not trading Iafallo for Liljegren even up, any more than we're trading Iafallo for Dermott and Hallander.


Why not?

My fellow Kings fans are notorious for overrating Iafallo especially with his 1 year left.

They also lack the understanding that we need room for Turcotte, Grundstrom, and Andersson to get more minutes and they won't get that with Iafallo and Kempe there.

They also seem to think Kings RD is set with Grans, Faber, and Spence which is a pipedream.
26 janv. 2021 à 19 h 35
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Do you really think the Kings can draft 2 RD in the 2nd round and solidify their future right side that easily? You're smarter than that... Grans can't play defense, unless he improves that he won't make the NHL. If he does, he'll be nothing but a 2nd or 3rd pair offensive defenseman who's probably going to be a liability.

In case you weren't paying attention, Faber doesn't have the offensive upside the be the #2 guy behind Doughty. Unless we get a two way guy for the left side, I doubt he'll see much of the 2nd pair. Probably the 3rd pair, if he makes the NHL at all.

Spence has top 4 potential, but he still needs to work on defense. He's nothing, but an offensive defenseman. We don't need those types of defensemen.

Liljegren has top 4 upside and draws some comparisons to Doughty(won't be that good most likely) he has gotten way better defensively. A little bit of time in Ontario with the Kings development staff and he should be good to go. At the cost of Iafallo and Spence I'd say its worth it. Adding Spence was my idea and probably isn't even needed.

Walker has 1 point and a -1 and as you've said before isn't that great of a top 4 guy. We can trade him.

Why would the Kings resign a 27 year old LW when they have guys like Grundstrom, Turcotte, Andersson, and Kempe. The younger guys need minutes and Iaffalo blocks them from getting that.

If they extend Iafallo, it's only to trade him for a bigger return the next year.

I'm so sick of your know-it-all complex when it comes to the Kings. You can't tell me because the Kings have Grans, Faber, and Spence the Kings are all set at RD lol. Yes, Kings need 3 more top 6 wingers assuming Turcotte and Kaliyev pan out and that's also assuming you don't think Grundstrom, Andersson, ****emo, Kupari, and Simontaival won't develop into that. They get that in this draft, free agency, or use our other prospects to aquire them. Kupari, Thomas, Madden, Spence, and Grans are all pieces that could be used in a trade for a top 6 winger as well as 1st round picks when some of our top tier prospects become NHL regulars.


I never said that the Kings are set at RD, just that it would be a mistake to trade away a player currently filling a roster spot at the Kings single greatest position of weakness in order to fill a spot where they have already three NHL options under contract plus several more capable options in the system. Assuming Kempe can stay in the top six (I still think he's more of a 3rd line guy), that still only gives the Kings two NHL-capable top-six wingers under the age of 35 (Iafallo and Kempe). Neither Grundstrom nor Andersson are top-six guys, and while Turcotte might eventually turn into one, he has yet to play a single professional hockey game at any level. I'm not ready to put him in the driver's seat just yet.

The Kings are high on Iafallo, as they should be. He's gotten better every season he's played so far, and has built some excellent chemistry on Kopitar's wing. Until they have a proven option to replace him (i.e. a winger who has played a top six role for more than one full season in the NHL), Iafallo isn't going anywhere. Do I think he's the 1LW that will carry the Kings to their next Stanley Cup? No, of course not. But he's certainly a better option than anyone else the Kings have in the lineup right now.
26 janv. 2021 à 19 h 39
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Why not?

My fellow Kings fans are notorious for overrating Iafallo especially with his 1 year left.

They also lack the understanding that we need room for Turcotte, Grundstrom, and Andersson to get more minutes and they won't get that with Iafallo and Kempe there.

They also seem to think Kings RD is set with Grans, Faber, and Spence which is a pipedream.


You have to earn NHL minutes. You aren't gifted minutes because you're young and have potential. Grundstrom barely made the team out of camp this year, he doesn't deserve ice time over Iafallo, who the coaching staff described as the "best player on the ice" during camp this year.

LA Kings Insider: Iafallo the "Best Player on the Ice Today”
 
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