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Spurgeon is far from a top 7 dman in the league

how

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27 oct. 2020 à 20 h 20

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Quoting: deys3232

how

Because there are over a dozen better dman then him in the league

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Minnesota doesn’t do that. They won’t retain for 7 years.

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27 oct. 2020 à 20 h 26

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This isn't even considered by Toronto for every reason you said. Age and contract are 2 huge factors in trades. Leafs won't sacrifice that much of the future to try to compete for 1 maybe 2 seasons

27 oct. 2020 à 20 h 31

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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist

Because there are over a dozen better dman then him in the league

In 19-20 Jared Spurgeon (among defensemen) ranked

1st in xWAR
1st in xGAR
1st in xSPAR
8th in xOFF GAR
5th in xDEF GAR
8th in xGA/60 RAPM
22nd in xGF/60 RAPM
27th in CA/60 RAPM
11th in CF/60 RAPM

Easily a top 7 defenseman

But you keep thinking that

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That trade is bad. Spurgeon will age far better because of how he plays. Not super physical hitting and taking hits. He’s a position and agility defender. Luckily he can also score and rack up points. I think the last 2 or so years of his contract will be bad, but like suter will prove wildly efficient in his mid 30s.

Toronto adds big time for him. And those picks from mn would drop big time.

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Quoting: KingLundqvist30

Minnesota doesn’t do that. They won’t retain for 7 years.

Quoting: deys3232

how

Because Spurgeon is the 3rd (and if Dumba rebounds 4th) best d-man on the Wild. He's an advanced stats darling, but the on-ice results doesn't match those stats.

27 oct. 2020 à 20 h 33

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Quoting: KingLundqvist30

Minnesota doesn’t do that. They won’t retain for 7 years.

Its only 575k, not even league min

And they are getting William Nylander who would easily be their best forward.
While also getting a contract that is a bit too long

27 oct. 2020 à 20 h 34

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Quoting: wabit

I'd do it in a heartbeat, It's really not much to retain on a yearly basis. Spurgeon probably nixes the deal anyways. Besides the Leafs just watched Rielly/Barrie and hated it. Why do it again for more money, term, and a older player?

Because Spurgeon is the 3rd (and if Dumba rebounds 4th) best d-man on the Wild. He's an advanced stats darling, but the on-ice results doesn't match those stats.

I'm shocked at how wrong this post is.

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Quoting: deys3232

Its only 575k, not even league min

And they are getting William Nylander who would easily be their best forward.
While also getting a contract that is a bit too long

Wrong

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Quoting: wabit

looooooooooooooooooooooool

Hes easily the best defenseman on the Wild

Its not even close

And the "analytics are all based on his"on-ice" results
Just because he doesnt have a big name, points or isnt flashy, doesnt mean he isnt good

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Quoting: Caerii

Wrong

Which Wild forward is better than Nylander?

27 oct. 2020 à 20 h 36

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Quoting: deys3232

Which Wild forward is better than Nylander?

Right now, Fiala.

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Quoting: Caerii

Right now, Fiala.

And what makes you think that?

27 oct. 2020 à 20 h 40

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Quoting: deys3232

And what makes you think that?

Because I've watched them both play and Fiala is the better player.

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Quoting: Caerii

Because I've watched them both play and Fiala is the better player.

Oh yeah?

Well ive seen Nikita Zaitsev and Victor Hedman play hockey

Zaitsev is the better player

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Quoting: deys3232

Oh yeah?

Well ive seen Nikita Zaitsev and Victor Hedman play hockey

Zaitsev is the better player

It’s his opinion bro, come on. I think Eichel is better than Matthews, am I wrong? Maybe, depending on who you ask, but it’s my opinion. He thinks Fiala is better than Nylander, so what?

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Quoting: deys3232

Oh yeah?

Well ive seen Nikita Zaitsev and Victor Hedman play hockey

Zaitsev is the better player

Well I'm certainly not going to sit here and argue with a troll.

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Quoting: Caerii

Well I'm certainly not going to sit here and argue with a troll.

Im not trolling, Im just telling you that, thats what you sound like

Your opinion doesnt mean anything if its not backed up by facts

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Quoting: KingLundqvist30

It’s his opinion bro, come on. I think Eichel is better than Matthews, am I wrong? Maybe, depending on who you ask, but it’s my opinion. He thinks Fiala is better than Nylander, so what?

Opinions can be wrong

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Quoting: deys3232

Opinions can be wrong

Yea but you have to at least respect it. I’m not trying to start anything, just thought I’d say my piece. No hate intended towards you or anyone else.

27 oct. 2020 à 20 h 48

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Quoting: KingLundqvist30

Yea but you have to at least respect it. I’m not trying to start anything, just thought I’d say my piece. No hate intended towards you or anyone else.

Im not taking it as hate, its just a dicusssion. I dont mind hearing why you think what you think. Im 100% open to it. I just want a reason other than "i saw him play and think hes better"

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