How do you plan on resigning Point in two years. Not hating, but that’s gonna be another mess to deal with.

Agreed, but the 2 year bridge on Cirelli & Sergachev buys time. The Seattle expansion will help if they can move one of the NMC's of Killorn, Gourde, Palat or Johnson.
Otherwise, waive one of them like they just tried to do with Johnson recently.
Once the cap crunch is past in 2021, and salary cap (most likely) goes up, there will be a team that would take one of these players for nothing other than their contract value.
They are just kicking the can down the road and buying some time, as best they can with all of the adverse contracts they have to deal with.

God I hope the cap goes up dude. This is just frustrating when players get jettisoned because of the cap.

No Cernak.

And NTCs are not required to be protected.

Try again.

Wings have no interest in a severely over-rated, over-paid 30 year old who will be injured for most of the year.

Thanks though.

as of right now they protect Stamkos, Cirelli, Point, Kucherov, Coleman Goodrow....... Paquette? (or something like that) Hedman, Cernak Sergachev and Vasy.

They hope that Seattle takes McD, Johnson, Killer, Palat or Gourde

why Paquette? i would rather keep Palat or if we win a cup Maroon

Paquette, Stephens, Volkov any to leave those middle 6 contracts exposed. I'd rather keep Palat too but id rather have the cap space to keep Point. Maroon will be a UFA so Seattle wont claim him. If he wants to come back he'll sign after the expansion draft.

Speak for yourself... I'd take that deal. If he's hurt, LTIR him, if he's healthy, he's still capable of being a 30+ goal scorer for at LEAST the next 3 years of the 4 left on his deal. Actual salary goes down after this season too. Now, I don't see there being any chance he'd waive his NMC, but from Detroit's perspective, you'd be crazy not to take the chance on him.

Now if you used detroit in a 3 way trade with like ny and we eat maybe 1.5 or 2 million a season to get him to the rangers maybe. I love stamkos but hes not ideal for detroit but if we eat money for like a pick and player maybe.

Maroon is on a 2 year deal and palat will be the cap space for point

Forgot Maroon was a 2 year. And yes Palat would be the cap for Point, that's what I said. So Maroon over Paquette.

yea

What chance? What does he do for us besides take up cap space?

This team isn't contending for anything in 4 years that he is under contract. He can score 50 goals it doesn't matter.

Complete waste of space unless we are getting compensated handsomely for taking him.

Your username is quite appropriate because it looks like you'd like to have this team dead for even longer.

He taught Kuch and Sergachev how to jail a onetimer. So there's that. You got anyone in Detroit that would benefit from playing with a guy who scored 90 points last year? differnce between building a team the way Detroit used to do vs how Detroit has failed to do it recently. What Tampa had vs what Edmonton and Buffalo has lacked. Extremely talented veteran leadership in a young team is massive.

I am quite confident Kuch would be scoring goals without Stamkos....The team was arguably better without him, and won a cup without him. What makes you think he is such an unbelievable leader that the Wings need?

I am sure he's a good guy, but the Wings have no reason to take on that contract unless they are incentivized to do so.

So salty. What would you prefer they spend the cap on? They still have to get to the floor. Also, I think they can contend a lot sooner than that, I would say by year 3 of his deal, they'd be legit contenders. If you think they can't by then, then this rebuild is taking WAY longer than it should anyways and we would have already wasted the prime years of our current "core"

They're at the floor....with ease. They haven't signed Bert or Mantha yet and I assume Stevie is not done trading for a cap dump or two.

They will not be contending in 3 years lol....what. They might be a Wild Card team. Unless the draft goes perfectly in our favor and EVERY single prospect turns out to be what we want/expect, then maybe contend in that time frame. Reality is that definitely won't happen.

Holland left this org and roster absolutely empty. One of the worst rosters in NHL history (both in record and on-ice talent). This will take a while.

Even with Bert and Mantha signed, plus extensions for other RFAs, they will struggle to hit the floor next season, without taking on a large contract. Look long term.

Next year, they will only be bottom 10, not bottom 3. The following season, wild-card level or damn close and the season after that at least CONTENDING. They won't be a favorite for longer, for sure, I'm not arguing that. But even if only a fraction the prospects pan out, mixed in with shrewd FA periods, they can and should be expected to compete a hell of a lot sooner than 4 years+. They're already 3 years into a rebuild and even with the piss poor job Holland did with contracts, he still made some solid picks and there is a LOT in the pipeline.

We must have different definitions of contending, so let's agree to disagree. I'd gladly take that bet that this teams finishes bottom 3....who's worse?

Also the cap floor is no issue. Hronek and Cholo need new contracts, and there will be more UFAs and cap dumps for Stevie to take on while this team remains in the lottery.