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Trouba Traded to Every Team v.2

Créé par: Colin4000
Équipe: 2016-17 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 29 oct. 2016
Publié: 29 oct. 2016
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Updating the Trouba to Every Team team from earlier. Winnipeg wants a young, left-shot defenseman in return, which is my basis for these trades. I'm also making sure that the player Winnipeg receives in return is ineligible for expansion, which would allow Winnipeg to protect more forwards instead of going the 4F-4D route. THESE TRADES ARE NOT COMPLETE. These are just to show what each team's main piece would be going back. SEE COMMENTS FOR MY BRIEF ANALYSIS.
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ANA
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                      FLA
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                        MIN
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                            NJD
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                              OTT
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                                PHI
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                                  SJS
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                                    STL
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                                      TBL
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                                        TOR
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                                          VAN
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                                            MTL
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                                              CAR
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                                                WPG
                                                  Dennis Cholowski
                                                  DET
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                                                    WPG
                                                      Kale Clague
                                                      LAK
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                                                        NYI
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                                                          WPG
                                                            Sean Day
                                                            NYR
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                                                                Connor Hall
                                                                PIT
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                                                                    Lucas Johansen
                                                                    WSH
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                                                                      29 oct. 2016 à 14 h 57
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                                                                      Teams with a good enough centrepiece: ANA, ARI, CBJ, EDM, OTT, PHI, TOR, VAN, MTL, CAR
                                                                      Teams that need a #1 RHD: ANA, BOS, DET, EDM, MIN, NJD, NYR, PHI, TOR, VAN
                                                                      Matching teams: ANA, EDM, PHI, TOR, VAN

                                                                      So without taking cap space or divisional teams into consideration, it appears as if Winnipeg has five possible trading partners for Jacob Trouba: Anaheim, Edmonton, Philadelphia, Toronto and Vancouver.
                                                                      29 oct. 2016 à 14 h 58
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                                                                      Literally none of these would go through
                                                                      29 oct. 2016 à 15 h 14
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                                                                      Seeing as Trouba wants 6M+ it likely wouldn't work under the Oilers cap structure but what would the Oilers need to add on a package centering around Nurse?
                                                                      29 oct. 2016 à 15 h 23
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                                                                      Quoting: honeynutchelios
                                                                      Literally none of these would go through


                                                                      If only people would read:

                                                                      Quote: These are just to show what each team's main piece would be going back. SEE COMMENTS FOR MY BRIEF ANALYSIS



                                                                      Anyway, if that's the biggest piece the Bruins would need (with obviously more going the other way, because...I read), they would jump all over it.
                                                                      29 oct. 2016 à 15 h 41
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                                                                      Ok, so what your saying is the Jackets need to give up Werenski. While the Capitals only have to give up Lucas Johansen? Go home your drunk!
                                                                      29 oct. 2016 à 16 h 28
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                                                                      Seeing that so many teams are up against the cap, I seriously doubt that most of these deals would go through. And i would tend to think that Chevy could get better deals then most of these listed here.
                                                                      29 oct. 2016 à 17 h 4
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                                                                      Please. The way Werenski is playing, y'all don't have the assets necessary to get him.
                                                                      29 oct. 2016 à 18 h 20
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                                                                      Quoting: Viqsi
                                                                      Please. The way Werenski is playing, y'all don't have the assets necessary to get him.
                                                                      Yeah that kid is already a stud in the making, No way does Columbus move him not even for Trouba.
                                                                      29 oct. 2016 à 20 h 26
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                                                                      Trouba and his agent look at the destination where he would go, and they publicly state they would not report to Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, , San Jose, LA, Anaheim, Phoenix, Colorado, Minnesota, Chicago, St Louis, Nashville, Dallas, Florida, Tampa, Carolina, Washington, Philadelphia, New Jersey, New York, Brooklyn, Boston, Detroit, Pittsburg, Columbus, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal and Buffalo. And Trouba maintains he isn't playing for Winnipeg. Criticizes GM Chevy for not exploring ALL opportunities in North America.
                                                                      29 oct. 2016 à 23 h 53
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                                                                      @honeynutchelios Read the description. They're not supposed to. Nice username btw.

                                                                      @Alex_Hancock I didn't take salary cap situations into account. It'll be nearly impossible to make a trade with Anaheim or Philadelphia without taking significant salary back, since they're both over the cap. But the Jets have almost $9 million currently in cap space, which gives them plenty of flexibility. It could also allow them to augment their return if they decide to go that route, sort of like the Teravainen trade.

                                                                      @BreKel It's the biggest piece that they have. Every single player going back in these trades are young, left shooting defensemen who are ineligible for expansion. That's why some of these players are pretty much unheard of (ex. Hall, Masin, Fitzgerald), because some teams just lack that. That's why I did every single team, so that we can sift through the league and pick out the strongest trade candidates. And thanks for reading the description. Surprisingly not a lot of people do that. Speaking of which...

                                                                      @Jacketsman61 Read the description. And Lucas Johansen's a pretty good, just so you know. He's Washington's best young LHD that's ineligible for expansion.

                                                                      @Larkinisking Read the description. Very few of these are potential 1-for-1 deals, except for maybe the the ones for Columbus, Philadelphia, Montreal and Vancouver. Even then those teams are all close to the cap, so there'd have to be some additions on both sides.

                                                                      As for Werenski, as great as he's turning out to be, 1) it's still early in the season and 2) I think you might be underestimating Trouba's value. He's already a star, and although he doesn't put up points like Werenski's on pace to do, his defensive prowess is one of the best in the league. It also helps that he too is still improving, as he's only 22 years old. I'm not suggesting that this trade is realistic either. Columbus doesn't need Trouba, as their right side on the first pair already belongs to Seth Jones.

                                                                      @Viqsi See paragraph above.

                                                                      @palhal Honestly, I think Horse Vacation (Cheveldayoff) is going to be the victor. RFAs have no power at all, and from Trouba's perspective, I'd rather sign with Winnipeg than go a year without hockey. That could potentially be career-ending, which I highly doubt Trouba wants. You also have to think, his team has received the message that he wasn't happy with his ice time. If he does end up staying in the 'Peg, I'm sure Winnipeg will at least try give him more ice time, in an effort to restore damage.
                                                                      30 oct. 2016 à 1 h 33
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                                                                      Wild can't afford Trouba without taking back ~$6m back in salary (Trouba's paycheck). I know it's all in-theory trades, but Minny and Winny aren't good partners.
                                                                      30 oct. 2016 à 7 h 20
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                                                                      Quoting: Colin4000
                                                                      As for Werenski, as great as he's turning out to be, 1) it's still early in the season and 2) I think you might be underestimating Trouba's value. He's already a star, and although he doesn't put up points like Werenski's on pace to do, his defensive prowess is one of the best in the league. It also helps that he too is still improving, as he's only 22 years old. I'm not suggesting that this trade is realistic either. Columbus doesn't need Trouba, as their right side on the first pair already belongs to Seth Jones.

                                                                      Cool. Given all that, you ought to be just fine with a straight-up proposal of Cam Atkinson for Patrick Laine.
                                                                      30 oct. 2016 à 12 h 3
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                                                                      Colin4000 I read your description. But still would never happen. Werenski is better than Trouba.

                                                                      People need to start realizing that if Trouba does get traded they will get picks not established players. And I don't care what Cheveldayoff wants.
                                                                      30 oct. 2016 à 13 h 9
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                                                                      Quoting: Jacketsman61
                                                                      Colin4000 I read your description. But still would never happen. Werenski is better than Trouba.

                                                                      People need to start realizing that if Trouba does get traded they will get picks not established players. And I don't care what Cheveldayoff wants.


                                                                      I kind of agree with this.

                                                                      I know Chevy wants a top LH dman in return but no team is going to give you a good LH dman for a punk kid RH dman, even if he is good. It'd be a bad move within the club and i think would impact negatively. If I'm Chevy, I'm exploring getting true value in any form rather than settling for a less good right now player.

                                                                      If for example the offer was Fowler and a 2nd rounder. I'd much rather have two 1st rounder instead. (Just hypothetically of course.)
                                                                      30 oct. 2016 à 14 h 6
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                                                                      Collin: If 1st year RFAs value their freedom so much, maybe they just settle for signing 4 one year contracts and are UFA,s at age 25 or 26, Maybe McDavid or Matthews do this.
                                                                      1 nov. 2016 à 19 h 49
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                                                                      Quoting: palhal
                                                                      Collin: If 1st year RFAs value their freedom so much, maybe they just settle for signing 4 one year contracts and are UFA,s at age 25 or 26, Maybe McDavid or Matthews do this.


                                                                      That's not at all how contracts work. You still have RFA years left after your entry level deal expires. That's why GMs will sometimes sign players to bridge deals, because it saves them some money in the short term, while also being able to retain their rights once the contract's expired.
                                                                       
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