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Équipe: 2020-21 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 11 oct. 2020
Publié: 11 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
79 000 000 $
11 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
VGK
  1. Lankinen, Kevin
  2. Smith, Zack (750 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
With their sucky goaltending, CHI seems like the most logical option to dump Fleury in.
2.
BOS
  1. Schmidt, Nate
Détails additionnels:
They need a D
3.
VGK
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
MTL
  1. Smith, Zack
  2. Tuch, Alex
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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11 oct. 2020 à 22 h 48
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From a Chicago standpoint, I'd say you need to add like a 2nd
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11 oct. 2020 à 22 h 49
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Unless you're willing to let them walk next season, i'm not sure how this helps you from a habs-vgk perspective. Danault will likely command 5-6 mil on his new deal and lehkonen will probably want 3-3.5mil per. Seems like apples to oranges
11 oct. 2020 à 22 h 55
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Bruins decline. Underpayment for kase
11 oct. 2020 à 22 h 56
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MTL giving up way too much
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11 oct. 2020 à 22 h 56
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The wrong team is giving up a 2nd in the MTL deal.
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11 oct. 2020 à 22 h 57
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
Unless you're willing to let them walk next season, i'm not sure how this helps you from a habs-vgk perspective. Danault will likely command 5-6 mil on his new deal and lehkonen will probably want 3-3.5mil per. Seems like apples to oranges


It depends. Martinez is off the books, so there comes the money to keep Danault. One of Kase and Lehkonen is moving, but other than that the core isn't changing much.

Just needed to get a C. VGK center depth is relatively weak when compared to other contenders.
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11 oct. 2020 à 22 h 57
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MTL giving up way too much


How? He’s a 3rd line winger
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11 oct. 2020 à 22 h 58
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Quoting: Topunderscore
Bruins decline. Underpayment for kase


How? He’s a 3rd line winger
11 oct. 2020 à 22 h 58
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How? He’s a 3rd line winger
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Disregard my comment then smile
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MTL giving up way too much


A pending UFA they're unlikely to keep, a low 2nd in a weak draft and a bottom-6 winger for a solid TOP6 guy under a great contract is way too much?

Well I disagree, but you do you.
11 oct. 2020 à 22 h 59
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How? He’s a 3rd line winger
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I.E. josh anderson. Unicorns of the league are coveted by Bergy 🤣
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Disregard my comment then smile


With that contract Danault has lower value than Tuch.
11 oct. 2020 à 23 h 1
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A pending UFA they're unlikely to keep, a low 2nd in a weak draft and a bottom-6 winger for a solid TOP6 guy under a great contract is way too much?

Well I disagree, but you do you.


any trade involving Danault should have extension talks happening in order to maximize his value
11 oct. 2020 à 23 h 5
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Interesting. Would be an option. 👍🏻

Not saying yes but not saying no either. Biggest concern is he’s much better playing right side, does not help us.
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11 oct. 2020 à 23 h 8
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With that contract Danault has lower value than Tuch.


The difference is Danault has been a top 10-15 2 way C over the last 4 seasons. Just sucks he played on a team that lacked top 6 offensive talent he could have scored an extra 10-15 points if they had more talent in MTL. On This Vegas squad I bet he reaches 60-65 points. Tuch has had one season where he looked like a top 6 forward. Just got lucky it was a contract year.
11 oct. 2020 à 23 h 38
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any trade involving Danault should have extension talks happening in order to maximize his value


I think the new CBA had something going against with this kind of policy. At least conditional picks regarding re-signing contracts aren't allowed anymore.
12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 14
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Quoting: justaBoss
A pending UFA they're unlikely to keep, a low 2nd in a weak draft and a bottom-6 winger for a solid TOP6 guy under a great contract is way too much?

Well I disagree, but you do you.


Its not too much. Tuch is very valuable especially at that salary. Bergevin would accept that deal all day
12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 17
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Quoting: Eclipze
The difference is Danault has been a top 10-15 2 way C over the last 4 seasons. Just sucks he played on a team that lacked top 6 offensive talent he could have scored an extra 10-15 points if they had more talent in MTL. On This Vegas squad I bet he reaches 60-65 points. Tuch has had one season where he looked like a top 6 forward. Just got lucky it was a contract year.


Alex Tuch is the best player in the deal and his contract makes it a bigger bonus then a lackluster 2nd round pick. It's not possible to NOT overpay for that type of player. Josh Anderson trade for example.
This 2 way nonsense is the same stuff I heard from Hawks fans on Saad before he was basically given away
12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 28
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Quoting: OlegP
Alex Tuch is the best player in the deal and his contract makes it a bigger bonus then a lackluster 2nd round pick. It's not possible to NOT overpay for that type of player. Josh Anderson trade for example.
This 2 way nonsense is the same stuff I heard from Hawks fans on Saad before he was basically given away


Saad was not the same player he was 3-4 years ago he regressed. And there not a single person that isn’t MB that thinks MTL got the better deal. Tuch has one good season where Danault has been consistent. Anyone that thinks Tuch is the best player in that deal is wrong.
12 oct. 2020 à 2 h 42
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Alex Tuch is the best player in the deal and his contract makes it a bigger bonus then a lackluster 2nd round pick. It's not possible to NOT overpay for that type of player. Josh Anderson trade for example.
This 2 way nonsense is the same stuff I heard from Hawks fans on Saad before he was basically given away


We have one of the worst GMs in the NHL, has nothing to do with the kind of player Saad is. You'd imagine being a Vegas fan and watching Stone play you'd understand what being a 2 way player is since he's arguably in the top 5 best 2 way players in the league.
12 oct. 2020 à 2 h 45
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Saad was not the same player he was 3-4 years ago he regressed. And there not a single person that isn’t MB that thinks MTL got the better deal. Tuch has one good season where Danault has been consistent. Anyone that thinks Tuch is the best player in that deal is wrong.


No, Saad has not regressed. In 17/18 Saad was battling a injury to his back that he was dealing with all season from the end of the 16/17 season. 18/19 he came back and 19/20 (prorated to a full season) was on pace for 30 goals and 47 points only time he was better was 15/16 goals and points. His game is more well rounded then ever. I like Danualt and he's improved his game quite a bit and believe he is better then Tuch but it's not as far off as either of you are debating.
12 oct. 2020 à 10 h 35
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No, Saad has not regressed. In 17/18 Saad was battling a injury to his back that he was dealing with all season from the end of the 16/17 season. 18/19 he came back and 19/20 (prorated to a full season) was on pace for 30 goals and 47 points only time he was better was 15/16 goals and points. His game is more well rounded then ever. I like Danualt and he's improved his game quite a bit and believe he is better then Tuch but it's not as far off as either of you are debating.


Quoting: ChiHawk
You are absolutely wrong if you think Saad has no value right now; on pace for 30 goals and one of the top 20 2-way wingers in the game. That's an absolutely asinine statement


Please keep talking ChiHawk. Another “asinine” statement
12 oct. 2020 à 10 h 44
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Quoting: Eclipze
Saad was not the same player he was 3-4 years ago he regressed. And there not a single person that isn’t MB that thinks MTL got the better deal. Tuch has one good season where Danault has been consistent. Anyone that thinks Tuch is the best player in that deal is wrong.


I'd make the same bet I made with a certain Hawks fan about the players value (he lost and continues to push a losing narrative) that Tuch has much more value at that contract signed, when Danault will far exceed it in dollars on his coming deal.
But Tuch being traded will NOT happen in a million years right now, in a flat cap. As opposed to a declining Saad at least you acknowledge that.
Saying Danault is a better player than Tuch thus more valuable is hilariously ignorant.
And I love Danault but he's very replaceable with guys like KK and Suzuki, able to take the tougher matchups down the road. You can not replace a power forward with speed like Tuch.
It's building a team, not looking at fancy stats charts.
12 oct. 2020 à 11 h 11
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Please keep talking ChiHawk. Another “asinine” statement


LMAO you're really trying hard aren't you....like REALLY trying hard
12 oct. 2020 à 11 h 16
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Quoting: ChiHawk
LMAO you're really trying hard aren't you....like REALLY trying hard


Its very easy to say you were wrong and move on. Or just stay quiet. Otherwise, things never quiet. If you won’t take the advice. I will have to do it. Ignored.
 
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