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Créé par: Ian1421
Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 2 oct. 2020
Publié: 2 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
55 500 000 $
55 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
WSH
  1. Gambrell, Dylan
  2. Kellman, Joel
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (COL)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
2.
COL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (WSH)
3.
DET
  1. Karlsson, Erik
  2. True, Alex
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
  6. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
4.
SJS
  1. Rodrigues, Evan [Droits de RFA]
TOR
  1. Bergmann, Lean
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
5.
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2021
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2022
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Logo de SJS
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M-NTC
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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G
UFA - 1
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2 oct. 2020 à 12 h 31
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I dunno why you did this either, wings pass easily
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2 oct. 2020 à 12 h 35
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I dunno why did this either, wings pass easily


Need to send Karlsson to an all-in team. Only one of those here is WSH. Not sure Karlsson's current contract gets you Vrana, but certainly something of significant positive value.
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2 oct. 2020 à 12 h 36
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Need to send Karlsson to an all-in team. Only one of those here is WSH. Not sure Karlsson's current contract gets you Vrana, but certainly something of significant positive value.


Sj would have to eat almost half of any karlsson trade at this point too
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2 oct. 2020 à 12 h 37
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Detroit passes. Don't want Karlsson since his contract will be awful by the time we're good again.
2 oct. 2020 à 12 h 38
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Sj would have to eat almost half of any karlsson trade at this point too


Karlsson at 5Mxeternity might just about get therm Vrana.
2 oct. 2020 à 12 h 39
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Karlsson at 5Mxeternity might just about get therm Vrana.


I doubt caps do this though. Sharks are stuck with karlsson
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2 oct. 2020 à 12 h 47
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Col would be INSANE to not move 2 bottom 6 guys for SJ's 1st next year let alone more on top of that.

WSH and DET both easily say no.

Tor isn't resigning Rod so thats fine

Last one who cares.
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2 oct. 2020 à 12 h 50
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None of this makes sense. Especially not all of it unless you think the Sharks are just never going to draft a player ever again.
2 oct. 2020 à 12 h 57
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I doubt caps do this though. Sharks are stuck with karlsson


A lot of Caps fans on here are thinking all-in. Karlsson this year should be better than Vrana. In three years, not so much. But regardless of whether Vrana is the return, a $5.75M Karlsson would be a great pickup for WSH or for any all-in team.

At 50% off, I think the Caps might offer Hagelin, Panik, 1st, 3rd. They only have two RHD under contract, and they only have Ovechkin under contract for one more year, so they might be willing to take on some long term risk in order to try to win one more championship right now. At full price, the picks go to WSH, and Oshie goes to SJ, with the the same guys. And that's not a knock on Oshie. Oshie's been on pace for 30 goals in three of the last four years, but his contract carries some significant risk of retirement, which is not exciting to a contender, but might be fine to a rebuilding team.
2 oct. 2020 à 12 h 59
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Haven’t y’all learned your lesson with trading 1st away
2 oct. 2020 à 13 h 24
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I dont see avs selling off 2 good forwards to their depth just for draft picks, they arent sellers
2 oct. 2020 à 13 h 42
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I tried the cap on Karlsson from WSH's side. Here's how I got it to balance, while still letting the Caps contend this year:

WSH
Karlsson, Erik
Chmelevski, Alexander
Chekhovich, Ivan
Dahlén, Jonathan [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
6 g 34 a 40 p $11.5M
three prospects. No points, yet.
If Dahlen signs at 1M, the Sharks save 305k this year.
SJS
Oshie, T.J.
Pánik, Richard
Hagelin, Carl
Kempný, Michal
Additional Details:
49p+22p+25p+18p=114p.

A few teams want Kempny, so the Sharks can flip him for a pick, for some cap relief. Same with Panik. Hagelin got 25 points this year, and Oshie got 49, so SJ might as well keep them for most of a season and see how they do. Oshie is from Washington State, so Seattle might pick him. Then SJ is just left with Hagelin, at an average price, and great at killing penalties. The Rangers might take him to replace Fast, but they're divided. But you still get almost 9M in cap space within a year, without retention, and without giving up any picks. It just costs a #2 D and three top prospects, all of whom will play this year in the Caps' bottom six to make it work.

So I don't think SJ is stuck with Karlsson. They just have to do the math on how long until they'll be good again, and decide whether they'd rather pay three prospects to move him out or pay three or four years of his 11.5 million dollar salary to watch him grow old, without necessarily helping them contend at all, before he's old and they're truly stuck with him.

FWIW, I also had to move Copley out, and the Caps are left with no flexibility for next season, when they have to write extensions for Ovechkin, Vrana, and Samsonov. So in a year they end up trading Kuznetsov to make cap space, or letting Ovechkin walk, in this scenario. It's not ideal for them, but it does make them a really, really strong contender for one year.

Still, all in all, I think if the Caps kick in their 2020 1st and 4th, and the Sharks immediately get back a 3rd for Kempny and a 4th for Panik, they end up trading three pretty good prospects for a 1st 3rd, and two 4ths in order to trade six years of Karlsson (40 points) for five years of Oshie (49 points at half the price) and three years of Hagelin (25 points at a quarter the price). I know how Sharks fans feel about prospects, but I hear they also like draft picks.
 
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