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Finnish offseason

Créé par: steinosaur19
Équipe: 2020-21 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 25 sept. 2020
Publié: 25 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
87 500 000 $
21 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
24 000 000 $
Transactions
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CBJ
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Liste de réserve]
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CBJ
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (COL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (COL)
COL
  1. Anderson, Josh [Droits de RFA]
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2021
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Logo de COL
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $71 589 167 $0 $375 000 $9 910 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
4 995 000 $4 995 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance375 000 $$375K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 700 000 $2 700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
975 000 $975 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 633 333 $1 633 333 $
DG
UFA - 2

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25 sept. 2020 à 10 h 47
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IMO other teams will top that offer for Laine.
25 sept. 2020 à 10 h 49
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Zero chance Winnipeg considers a 30 year old rental as a main piece for Laine.
25 sept. 2020 à 10 h 51
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that feels way too high for Josh Anderson. Drop the 1st to a 2nd and then maybe
25 sept. 2020 à 10 h 56
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I think that is a fair trade for the Oilers, however I think Oilers are signing JP within a week. So he might be off the market.
25 sept. 2020 à 11 h 45
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Quoting: Copenhagen
I think that is a fair trade for the Oilers, however I think Oilers are signing JP within a week. So he might be off the market.


Where have you heard this? The last time I heard anything was he is still very untrusting of his situation in Edmonton. Maybe a sign and trade?
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 33
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Where have you heard this? The last time I heard anything was he is still very untrusting of his situation in Edmonton. Maybe a sign and trade?


Bob Stauffer who works for the oilers. check his twitter
25 sept. 2020 à 16 h 9
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Quoting: Windjammer
Zero chance Winnipeg considers a 30 year old rental as a main piece for Laine.


Savard is a valuable piece, but in that particular package he is by far the least valuable piece that CBJ would be parting with.
25 sept. 2020 à 16 h 24
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Savard is a valuable piece, but in that particular package he is by far the least valuable piece that CBJ would be parting with.


That's true, but when you're offering a quantity for quality package every piece in the quantity package needs to be a desirable piece for the other team.
25 sept. 2020 à 16 h 34
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Quoting: Windjammer
That's true, but when you're offering a quantity for quality package every piece in the quantity package needs to be a desirable piece for the other team.


In a vacuum, yes. History would disagree though, or at the very least suggest that teams value players/prospects far differently than fans and writers do.

A few examples:
- the Panarin trade to CBJ
- Turris to NSH (when he was still good)
- Duchene to OTT
- Stone to VGK
- Seguin to DAL
- O'Reilly to STL
- Karlsson to SJS
- Hall to ARI

Most trades involving star players do three things for the team trading the star away:
1) Bringing back solid but not spectacular roster players to fill holes
2) Gaining salary flexibility
3) Adding future value

Laine is ridiculously good but GMs have repeatedly shown a willingness to part with star players in exchange for salary flexibility, veteran players who can fill holes and balance out their roster, and future assets. An example (and not a serious trade proposal) would be something like Murray + Anderson + Bemstrom + a mid-tier prospect (i.e. Hjorth) + 21OA for Laine. Is Laine going to provide more value than that? Probably. But look at that list above – all of those guys (save for Turris) provided more on-ice value than what their GMs got for them.
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25 sept. 2020 à 16 h 50
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In a vacuum, yes. History would disagree though, or at the very least suggest that teams value players/prospects far differently than fans and writers do.

A few examples:
- the Panarin trade to CBJ
- Turris to NSH (when he was still good)
- Duchene to OTT
- Stone to VGK
- Seguin to DAL
- O'Reilly to STL
- Karlsson to SJS
- Hall to ARI

Most trades involving star players do three things for the team trading the star away:
1) Bringing back solid but not spectacular roster players to fill holes
2) Gaining salary flexibility
3) Adding future value

Laine is ridiculously good but GMs have repeatedly shown a willingness to part with star players in exchange for salary flexibility, veteran players who can fill holes and balance out their roster, and future assets. An example (and not a serious trade proposal) would be something like Murray + Anderson + Bemstrom + a mid-tier prospect (i.e. Hjorth) + 21OA for Laine. Is Laine going to provide more value than that? Probably. But look at that list above – all of those guys (save for Turris) provided more on-ice value than what their GMs got for them.


Sure, it's possible. But none of the players you listed have done what Laine's done at his age, so it is a unique situation. It's all just our opinions though, who knows what the GM's really think. I just can't see Chevy moving Laine unless he gets exactly what he wants since he has no reason to move Laine and is under no pressure to do so.
25 sept. 2020 à 17 h 7
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Quoting: Windjammer
Sure, it's possible. But none of the players you listed have done what Laine's done at his age, so it is a unique situation. It's all just our opinions though, who knows what the GM's really think. I just can't see Chevy moving Laine unless he gets exactly what he wants since he has no reason to move Laine and is under no pressure to do so.


I think the closest parallel is the Seguin trade. Good team with some holes shopping a star player before they get really expensive. GMs do dumb stuff sometimes, obviously.

Chevy SHOULDN'T move Laine unless he gets an overwhelming return, but history suggests that if he does move Laine, it'll be a somewhat underwhelming package.
 
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