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Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 5 heures
Sujet:
this is a Trev Team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaseyFlyman</b></div><div>I think the bigger issue for Columbus (over the logjam of bottom-6 forwards, as others have said) is that Gudbranson isn't viewed as a negative asset anymore, at least by the organization. He's a core leader on a very young team, and we don't have another right-shot defenseman that plays his style.
He's not good, and he's overpaid, and yes he makes the defense slightly worse. But his internal value is still higher than his trade value, so we're better off keeping him around to fill that role than doubling down and acquiring worse assets. </div></div>
obviously gudbranson has long been an analytics punching bag, but according to the athletic's player models, he actually is a positive player in terms of defensive impact. this is while also (according to dom's piece today, anyway) having usage that is unfavorable for defensive metrics.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
30 janv. à 12 h 18
Sujet:
Jiricek - Fast Track the Rebuild
the only jiricek deal with san jose that would make sense is him for will smith 1-for-1. but that's assuming our current FO, who loved smith, is the group making the decision.
if they're gone (and that seems inevitable), the new GM likely immediately smooths things over with jiricek and keeps him in the fold.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 déc. 2023 à 14 h 5
Sujet:
Jiricek
there is nothing in the edmonton system short of an extended draisaitl that gets columbus to consider moving both of those guys. there's not a combination of pieces that would even get one of them imo.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 nov. 2023 à 13 h 40
Sujet:
Sign Lindholm like Severson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>squashmaple</b></div><div>The current trend is to lock them up early, a la Ottawa with Sanderson, NJ with Hughes, and Buffalo with Thompson. In my opinion, Marchenko is worth the gamble.</div></div>
cannot understate how much i love marchenko's game and personality. that said, those guys aren't great comps.
hughes was 20 when he signed his deal. sanderson had just turned 21. tage was coming off of a 38-30–68 season when he signed his extension.
marchenko is 23 (much closer to being a finished product) and has a career 28-10–38 line across 80 games, which is buoyed by his 16% sh% last year. he's both less proven and more of a finished product than those three guys.
the better comp is oliver bjorkstrand's first extension with the jackets, signed in the summer of 2018 (3 years, $2.5m aav) as a 23-year-old coming off of a 40-point season. that's in line with marchenko's age and production so far. bjorkstrand's second cbj extension ($5.4m aav over 6 years) is probably the high-end comp, but he signed that after scoring at a far higher rate than marchenko has, and that one bought out 4 UFA years (i think).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 nov. 2023 à 13 h 15
Sujet:
Sign Lindholm like Severson
i love marchenko but $54m over 8 years is <em>very</em> generous. he has 13 points in 21 games this year. that's 50-point pace over a full season. he's a $4-5m winger if they give him term, and closer to $3m on a bridge deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 nov. 2023 à 13 h 11
Sujet:
Back to lilly - peeke swap
andrew peeke is available in a trade because he is out of the lineup.
andrew peeke is out of the lineup because the jackets have other RHD (severson, jiricek, boqvist, gudbranson) who have jumped him in the pecking order.
as such, the jackets have zero reason to trade him for another RHD, especially not if they are also (apparently) giving up a first round pick lol. he's either getting moved for a forward on a similar (or, ideally, shorter) contract, or for picks.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 nov. 2023 à 11 h 55
Sujet:
Grier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>Nahhh cause Eklund is more like Fantilli as a cornerstone piece to the future. Johnson is more like Bordeleau. Talented but seems to just be lacking someting so they sent him back to the AHL. And before you argue Johnson is better than Bordeleau, Hertl is way better than Jenner.</div></div>
kent johnson isn't just better than bordeleau, he's better than eklund. he was picked earlier than eklund in the same draft and has 3x as many points in the NHL. he's only in the AHL because they wanted him to play 20 minutes a night and PP1 instead of being on the third line and PP2 here, because it's better for his development.
will smith is your fantilli parallel. eklund is your johnson parallel. bordeleau is your sillinger.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 nov. 2023 à 8 h 54
Sujet:
Grier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>Is he thought? If you have Hertl and Fantilli where does Johnson fit? I have a feeling your front off disagrees with you.</div></div>
johnson is a more valuable piece and can play wing or center. it's like me telling you that you should give up william eklund for boone jenner.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 21 h 2
Sujet:
Grier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>If you trade for Hertl
It’s to pair him with Laine and Gaudreau to give you a high level top line, I 100% get that. Value wise I think they are fairly even right now. I do feel sharks system and style restricts Hertl a bit and with CBJ he likely breaks out.
And while he is older his game is not predicated on speed and that his style ages better than a guy like Gaudreau!
If I was going to propose a deal it would likely be Johnson and Boqvist for Hertl with a cap dump and a pick likely added.
Johnson to replace the C we lose in Hertl and Boqvist gives us an offensive too 4 RD, and both are in your guys dog house right now. So it should work reasonably well</div></div>
KJ is untouchable. they sent him down because it's better for his development to get more minutes + reps at center, and he's been lighting up the AHL since they sent him down there.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 17 h 53
Sujet:
Grier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>The guy your team has as a healthy scratch is more valuable than Hertl? Seriously????
Look I get this isn’t permanent and he’s likely back in soon but you guys kinda shot yourself in the foot value wise by benching him!
That being said Laine + Boqvist or Peeke and a 2nd seems like a reasonable value right now.</div></div>
benching him while he's struggling after he missed three weeks and rejoined a team that is absolutely cratering does not mean that they need to move him, or that they need to move him right now, or that they are going to try to move him. even if they were trying to move him (which they aren't) it wouldn't make any sense to do that now, while his value is at a low point. he's played nine games this year.
and yes, he is more valuable than hertl – and i say that as someone who likes hertl.
laine is five entire years younger than hertl and is coming off a two-year stretch where, despite missing time with injuries, he put up 108 points in a 111 game stretch. hertl has only come close to that pace one season, and that was six years ago. on top of all that, last year laine had the best defensive impacts of any blue jackets forward and hertl's contract has much more room to turn into a disaster.
again, i like hertl as a blue jackets target, but even laine in a one-for-one would be bad business for columbus.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 17 h 41
Sujet:
two caps moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CastingCouchGuy</b></div><div>this is a bold statement with how awful laine has been this year lolololololol</div></div>
he missed three weeks and came back to a team that that hasn't scored on the power play in literally almost an entire month. everyone on the roster is fighting the puck right now.
he's also coming off of the best two years of his career.
it makes literally zero sense for the jackets to trade him after a 9-game stretch where the entire team has been awful when they could just wait it out and try to turn it around.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 17 h 14
Sujet:
two caps moves
no reason for the jackets to trade laine for a player who is older and worse.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 17 h 13
Sujet:
Grier
laine on his own is more valuable than hertl.
sillinger + boqvist would be a solid framework for hertl though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 16 h 1
Sujet:
change of scenery swaps
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Anaheim's realistically got to send out another roster forward in the deal (roster space problem) but yeah, that's the general idea I posted about 5 minutes ago.</div></div>
strome actually makes quite a bit of sense for this columbus roster – they don't have a right handed center and need solid veteran forwards. wouldn't mind him being included but that would give columbus a few too many playmakers.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 15 h 54
Sujet:
Testing ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>imawesome</b></div><div>I don't think Anaheim should do this. If they decide to trade Zegras they should get more value. They could probably get a top 6 winger that can actually has something other than a great shot</div></div>
the last two years laine has been far more of a playmaker than a sniper, but still has the elite shot. he's an offensive dual threat and has improved greatly in the defensive zone.
he's off to a slow start on a team that's off to a slow start. zegras is off to an even worse start on a team that's come out of the gate sprinting. laine fits better with anaheim's roster than he does here, and zegras fits better here than laine does. the trade makes plenty of sense.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 15 h 50
Sujet:
Laine Next Year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Why do u need Bichsel with Mateychuk and Svosil coming</div></div>
he big
(also i think he's better than svo)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 15 h 29
Sujet:
Laine Next Year
that first round pick is gonna be really late, and marchment/dellandrea don't have much value on their own imo.
if you add bichsel we might have something cooking here.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 15 h 26
Sujet:
Arizona
cbj fan counter-proposal:
- ARI gets: patrik laine + andrew peeke
- CBJ gets: lawson crouse + conor geekie
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 15 h 24
Sujet:
Laine in the Sand
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>squashmaple</b></div><div>He's also coming off a massive concussion, and it's not his first. There is no reason to trade him at the absolute nadir of both his value and career just because.
That said, your last sentence is absurd.</div></div>
my point is that unless there's a 1-for-1 trade that better fits the jackets needs, it makes more sense for them to keep him.
laine has struggled on a bad team since coming back from injury, so everyone runs to hfboards and capfriendly with lowball offers. zegras struggled just as bad on a good team after having contract drama. just saying that by the same logic that ducks fans are using to say laine should be available, zegras would be the most fitting piece to send back in return.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 15 h 21
Sujet:
The Finnish Flash Round 2
viliardi+ or no deal
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 15 h 20
Sujet:
Laine
not even close for laine.
leonard + mantha (to balance salary) for laine straight up is the only caps deal that makes more sense for columbus than keeping laine would.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 15 h 19
Sujet:
Laine in the Sand
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SK101</b></div><div>Laines value is hard to gauge but it’s a lot more than this. Jackets will want futures or young players/prospects in a laine trade</div></div>
he's missed time with injuries the last couple years (none of them recurring soft-tissue ones, luckily) but has also been basically a point per game player in that time (108 points in 111 games). people on this board treating him like he's a pure cap dump after a slow 9-game start on a team that can't generate any offense.
anyway, if the ducks want him, it's zegras one for one. nothing else makes sense for columbus.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 15 h 16
Sujet:
LTIR Cup and CBJ Futures
columbus says no thank you and it's not even close.
they would get far more value out of trying to stick it out with laine and hoping he returns to the form he showed over the last two years than they would trading him (and a second valuable asset in jenner, in this example) for a cap dump, an unproven young player and a late first.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 nov. 2023 à 8 h 17
Sujet:
Laine Trade
not even remotely close for laine
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 oct. 2023 à 8 h 9
Sujet:
trade for pettterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>theleano1</b></div><div>You guys would have too. Vancouver has no reason to trade him let alone for scraps</div></div>
lmao, no.
if your ask is fantilli or a fantilli-quality prospect, you're guaranteeing that you lose pettersson for nothing in free agency.
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