Nylander isn't a center, I think that has been made pretty clear. I'd use Donato and some picks (2021 first) to get a center.

There are many around here who say Nylander can play center. What are your reasons against their assessments?

Russo: "But I’ve always gotten the impression that the Wild brass, like most in the league, think Nylander is a winger, not a center."

I think you'd be smart not to pay a high price for Andersen and I don't think that the Leafs would get a lot if they traded him (though probably more than some think), but the Leafs are getting robbed blind here.

Either way, I would make this trade and take my chances that a Bassett Hound could play center with all the impressive wings the Wild have.

They’re going to get robbed somewhere...

Because...?

Sharks accept.

Sorensen can play a 3/4 line LW role, just would benefit from a more prototypical F1 playing on the other side so that he does not have to be the sole puck retriever and forechecker. He PKs well and still skates very well. Shooting percentage fell off a cliff compared to the year prior, but still a useful bottom 6 player. Sharks just have younger/cheaper versions of him in the minors in Gregor, Leonard, and Bergmann.

Andersen has about the same value as Allen did: a 3rd rounder. Dumba+Stalock (toss in Hunt if you want) for Andersen + Nylander. Greenway is an overpay for this trade,

Dumba and Andersen are both overrated, but I'd take Dumba over Andersen. Having said that, I don't think this deal is exciting for TOR because the big piece in the deal is a one-dimensional defenseman that can put of some points but is poor on defense, doesn't have good underlying numbers, and isn't particularly relied on for PK (more PP). That's not the kind of defenseman that TOR needs, and they're giving up a young top 6 forward to do it (best player in the deal too) -- so I think TOR passes on this deal.

(a) If you're spending those assets, you should look for a real center. Nylander can play center, but he's certainly not at his best, and he's also not eye popping as a two way center. If you surround him with the right line combo he might be a good 2C, but if you're trading all of that, get a natural center. My valuation is on the odd time that he has been called upon the play center - that said, perhaps if he played more consistently at the position he'd look more natural at that position.

(b) Dumba is not the type of defenceman we should be spending our assets on. We need the top pair shutdown guy, not the lesser version Morgan Rielly. No slight on Dumba - great offensive defenceman, but not what we need.

You both make valid points, but both also underrate Dumba defensively. Hes a lot better than most people give him credit for.

Sorensen can easily play 3C. Just give him a decent center to play with and he will do great. He had a bad year last year but he showed signs of bouncing back toward the end of the year.

Because teams aren’t going to be lining up to help the richest team in the NHL with their cap problems.

Of course they won't, but they don't need people to line up and help them. The Leafs are able to enter the season relatively unchanged if they want so why would they allow a team to rip them off? And considering a good chunk of the assets that they would potentially want to move are salary under cap players (which will be beneficial to a good number of teams in the current climate), they shouldn't have trouble finding takers for fair prices.

Dubas said himself that in testing the trade waters with certain players (this was around the time that it was brought up that Andersen, Johnsson, Kerfoot and Engvall were being dangled) he's gauged that they shouldn't have a problem moving them for a return they're comfortable with, if they choose to do so.

Im not trying to get into a pissing match with you, but what else is Dubas going to say??? Plus, we fans have no idea what he’s “comfortable with.” GMs say stuff like that all the time...the only people who believe any of it are the Kool-Aid drinking fans.

It's pretty easy to avoid questions like that; he didn't have to say anything. Regardless, forget anything about what Dubas said (because you're right, GM's spout nonsense all the time), they logically shouldn't have any trouble finding fair trades for the players they may want to move. So why should it be a foregone conclusion they are going to get robbed?

Robbed might be too strong of a word.

Sharks 100% would take this.

Whatever word you wanna use, they aren't in a position that is going to force them to take less than reasonable deals for their players is my point. Why is it a certainty to you that "They're going to get robbed (or insert whatever word you would want to use instead) somewhere?"

IMO, take it for what it’s worth, is that the Leafs are dead last in the line of teams other teams will help bail out and at the front of the line of all the teams ither teams will try to take advantage of. The only thing that will alter this is teams bidding against other teams for Leafs players.

They don't need to be 'bailed out' though. And most GM's main concern is the team they are paid to run. If they feel they can benefit their organization by trading with the Leafs, then they will do so.