Wow

TOR 10 times over SUbban is one of the 15-20 worst players in the league and he's actually a big a** cancer for any team

Leafs say no... I don't mind Subban as a pickup with that retained salary... but it wont be for Nylander... holy moly. Dubas would be fired on site.

dont think id even do this trade with subban half retained of 4.5

Leafs say no

If you're buddy thought this was a good proposal you really gotta rethink that friendship

As a leafs fan, that trade just doesn't make sense. Why trading a emerging player for an aging and declining dman?

Devils easily accept

The 'rumor' I keep seeing is Subban and a 1st round pick for Nylander...which seems about right. But this would be win for NJD.

Unless that's the 7th overall AND PK's at 50% retained

trust me been rethinking it for years, started off as a subban to toronto rumour then he said it would have to be subban plus for nylander, obiously depnding on what the plus is, then i told him i wouldnt do this trade even with the retention and he told me that he wouldnt wanna do it either as a devils fan

Good god no

Hmmmm. Tough offer. Leafs should consider it strongly. NOT. Leafs decline.

Would add this -- There is a lot of hate for Subban, for myriad of reasons. Big contract, big personality, etc. But his play on the ice has not been nearly as bad as some frequently say. He can still possess the puck, still has good shot, and is adequate defensively. For the next 2 years, he is probably a $4-6 million d-man...certainly not a $9 million.

The one criticism I can see however...he is not a team guy. And this has nothing to do with podcasts and social media. He at times doesn't pick up his teammates where he otherwise could.

One story - In late December, early January, NJD had a pretty decent run (for them). Beating some good teams in BOS, WSH, NYI. Their team was coming together, scoring goals, protecting one another. It was NJD's best hockey of the year. On the day Ray Shero was fired, NJD was playing TB at home in a tight game. At one point in the game, Kevin Rooney got into a scrum with one of the lightening players, Stamkos I believe, that ended up with Cirelli lying on top of Rooney, repeatedly punching him in the head. Everyone on the ice joined the scrum. But as all nine other players went to protect their teammates, Subban tried to pull the puck and go down on a 1-on-0 breakaway...and the TB goalie, McElhinney, just looked at him like 'what are you doing?...play is dead.' I believe the TV coverage stuck with the scrum. As Rooney, bloodied, and his teammates reemerged, you could tell from the look in their faces, they were not pleased with Subban. But PK went on to play a pretty decent game, was involved in some key moments, and NJD won a close game.

I don't know how common this type of thing was, I happened to be there and standing not far from the benches. But I could see clearly how Subban could play a good game while simultaneously be a distraction for the team.

He wouldn't do that trade as a Devil's fan?!

How often does he ask you to tell him about the rabbits?