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Trade down with LA - clean up future cap sheet

Créé par: VOFS
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 12 août 2020
Publié: 12 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I believe Byfield has just good a shot of becoming a superstar as Lafreniere does. It also helps that the Rangers need a future 1C so that they can avoid giving a catastrophic contract to Mika in summer '22, and that their system forward depth is on the wings. LA has the opposite issue, where their system depth is at center. Assuming LA thinks Lafreniere is worth the premium, this trade makes sense for both teams.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
46 000 000 $
32 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
11 200 000 $
21 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Byfield, Quinton
3925 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Nichushkin, Valeri2 500 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Kaliyev, Arthur
  2. Madden, Tyler
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
2.
NYR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Howden, Brett
  2. Lemieux, Brendan [Droits de RFA]
  3. Strome, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
3.
NYR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
CHI
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]
4.
NYR
  1. Fedun, Taylor
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
Rachats de contrats
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2020
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Logo de VAN
2021
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Logo de FLA
Logo de CHI
Logo de NYR
Logo de BUF
Logo de FLA
Logo de NYR
Logo de OTT
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
2022
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Logo de DAL
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $67 248 967 $0 $9 212 500 $14 251 033 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AD
RFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Byfield, Quinton
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AD
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Stars de Dallas
737 500 $737 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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12 août 2020 à 9 h 23
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12 août 2020 à 9 h 24
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Hawks want Georgiev but not for that much
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12 août 2020 à 9 h 25
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No.


heard theyre going to listen to offers
12 août 2020 à 9 h 27
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Hawks want Georgiev but not for that much


Talbot got a 2, a 3 and a 7th. Georgiev is better and younger at this point in his career, so 2 2nds seems pretty reasonable value wise.
12 août 2020 à 9 h 27
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heard theyre going to listen to offers


That's like saying they will wake up the next day. What team has ruled it out?
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12 août 2020 à 9 h 28
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Georgiev does not get moved. Rangers resign him...
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12 août 2020 à 9 h 32
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Talbot got a 2, a 3 and a 7th. Georgiev is better and younger at this point in his career, so 2 2nds seems pretty reasonable value wise.


That was 5 years ago. Talbot was coming off a .926 save % and a 2.2 GAA. Georgiev hasn't put up anything close to that yet. The goalie market was way different then too. there are only like 6 or 7 teams in the market for a goalie and way more than 6 or 7 goalies available. Teams won't have to give that much for a goalie when they can get get a UFA for free or just trade with another team. Seattle Expansion will force some teams into a bind. Obviously Georgiev could be protected for it's different for NYR, but the point is the goalie market isn't the same as it was 5 years ago. The hawks only got a 2nd for a half retained Lehner. Lehner is in his prime and was a vein finalist last year. Yeah Georgiev is younger, but does that make him worth twice as much as Lehner? No way IMO
12 août 2020 à 9 h 33
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Quoting: BSpadaro83
Talbot got a 2, a 3 and a 7th. Georgiev is better and younger at this point in his career, so 2 2nds seems pretty reasonable value wise.


The goalie market overall needs to be factored in too. 7 UFA goalies plus 3-4 teams wanted to shed goalies for 5ish open spots.
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12 août 2020 à 9 h 34
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
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Its a pretty decent deal. I would have taken it as a Flames fan if they won #1 but Calgary also has a depleted prospect pool unlike NYR
12 août 2020 à 9 h 36
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Hawks want Georgiev but not for that much


That's fine, happy to do it for just one 2nd too
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12 août 2020 à 9 h 38
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That's fine, happy to do it for just one 2nd too


hawks should accept for only 1 2nd
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12 août 2020 à 9 h 39
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No.


"No" to what, and why?
12 août 2020 à 9 h 42
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"No" to what, and why?


NYR can't move the pick.
12 août 2020 à 9 h 42
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Its a pretty decent deal. I would have taken it as a Flames fan if they won #1 but Calgary also has a depleted prospect pool unlike NYR


We can't trade what costed us a cup the past 2 decades.
12 août 2020 à 9 h 45
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NYR can't move the pick.


But like, why? If you think (as I do) that Byfield and Lafreniere are essentially the same level of prospect, then why wouldn't you make that swap and collect two other Top 40 prospects in the bargain?
12 août 2020 à 9 h 46
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But like, why? If you think (as I do) that Byfield and Lafreniere are essentially the same level of prospect, then why wouldn't you make that swap and collect two other Top 40 prospects in the bargain?


Because we need a superstar potential player like Lafreniere and I'm higher on Stutzle than Byfield but it's as simple as upside.
12 août 2020 à 9 h 48
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Because we need a superstar potential player like Lafreniere and I'm higher on Stutzle than Byfield but it's as simple as upside.


So it comes down to you disagreeing with me that Byfield has the same superstar potential as Lafrieniere. Got it, fair enough
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So it comes down to you disagreeing with me that Byfield has the same superstar potential as Lafrieniere. Got it, fair enough


Not trying to argue and you may have a point since he's a whole year younger and a beast but Lafreniere Is just levels ahead. We can't mess it up ya know...
12 août 2020 à 9 h 53
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LAK have no need to make that deal.
Georgiev isn’t worth 2-2nds imo
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12 août 2020 à 9 h 56
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Quoting: Nighthawk
LAK have no need to make that deal.
Georgiev isn’t worth 2-2nds imo


Who's talking about need? If the stars align and LA values Lafreniere that high, than my belief is that the Rangers should make a swap along those lines. And like I said above, happy to trade Georgiev for just one 2nd too.
12 août 2020 à 10 h 3
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Who's talking about need? If the stars align and LA values Lafreniere that high, than my belief is that the Rangers should make a swap along those lines. And like I said above, happy to trade Georgiev for just one 2nd too.


I believe LA likes Stutzle so the high is a no.
12 août 2020 à 10 h 18
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Hawks decline
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12 août 2020 à 14 h 12
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But like, why? If you think (as I do) that Byfield and Lafreniere are essentially the same level of prospect, then why wouldn't you make that swap and collect two other Top 40 prospects in the bargain?

Man thats a tough package to get 1OA I don’t think Kings move Turcotte Vilardi or kaliyev. I can see madden (even though I really like him) 2OA and maybe something else not named the 3 I named previously. But I’d say this is close.

Personally I don’t do it.
13 août 2020 à 8 h 27
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Man thats a tough package to get 1OA I don’t think Kings move Turcotte Vilardi or kaliyev. I can see madden (even though I really like him) 2OA and maybe something else not named the 3 I named previously. But I’d say this is close.

Personally I don’t do it.


If I were Kings management I wouldn't do it either. This all comes down to how much better than Byfield/Stutzle and the wingers they already have in their pool they think Lafreniere is. There's an inflection point where it makes perfect sense to do a deal like this
 
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