I know you were borrowing but Jensen had terrible year so his value is not a 3rd, but like 4th.. Johnssons value is 2nd round pick. Id do 3rd + Jensen for Johnsson.

If McM is ready, fine. If not... no. That Kahun contract won't happen though.

I mean, you don't really need Lars Eller, you need decent, affordable guys on the back end.

If I had an abundance of centers, and the deal would help fill a hole and save some money to put somewhere else, sure. Not sure how else you figure you can fill that hole?

so a winger that provides 40-45 points adds more value than a massive 2c upgrade that also scores 45 points and can play shutdown role? fair point i strongly disagree. when i made this trade i wasnt happy giving up Eller bc he adds 40 points and is a match up nightmare vs other teams....

I realize that you dont understand what winning is... but it is not all about point production.

lmfao yeah Kahun 40 points at wing helps you make a 24 team playoffs... not gonna be petty anymore but you guys think every player you have is elite its funny lol

Kahun who’s 25 and was on pace for 45 points. He only played 5 games in Buffalo.

They have defensive centers that they can resign like Johan Larsson they won’t be trading Kahun this offseason.

Internally. I dont think Leafs are just gonna add some random #5 guy from a team and suddenly be happy with their D core. I'd rather just play guys who are already there.. If Leafs are adding a RHD, its gonna be a guy who can play top pairing minutes and proved to play top pairing minutes.

lol hes saying Kuhun 40points is more valuable than Ellers 40points..... so even that argument is dumb

Ellen isn’t a #2 center in Seattle, nevermind anywhere else. Not moving Kahun for an older player with less upside.

who replaces Ceci and Barrie? going to play more LHD guys on the RHS? makes sense..... ugh i picked the two worst fans bases to make a trade with. both team glorify players like wTF is paying a 2nd for AJ? i dont see it. maybe if he was completely healthy. if this was the 2019 offseason i would agree more

Seattle doesnt have a team? Eller played 2c when the caps won the cup vs Pittsburgh. lmfao but!! keep stating options. tell me who is the better 2c in Buffalo?

Ceci is literally replacable by Liljegren or Sandin or Lehtonen or whoever shows a little bit of ability to skate, move puck and defend on higher than AHL level and Barrie is easily replaced by Lehtonen. Barrie was bad this year so the bar is not set that high.. Ceci is literally replacable by random AHLer.

okay out of every player you named who is a RH?

Then I guess you can be happy that you didn't make a mistake by trading Eller and we will be happy keeping Kahun. Eller has never scored 40 points in his career. He was on pace this year in his 11th season. To expect him to have career best numbers year over year at 31 years old on a much less offensive team is foolish. I would expect him to be a responsible 3C for 30 - 35 points in Buffalo. Not a bad player but not an upgrade over Kahun. Kahun is a quality two way player who is a natural center. If his production picks up 20 - 25 % as did Ellers in his late 20's he will be a 50 + point player.

I mean, if you can figure out a way to do it, have at er. Like I said, I don’t think this is sexy by any means, but it’s a cheaper upgrade on Ceci, and gives you some flexibility without moving Marner or Nylander.

Liljegren. Lehtonen played half his career on right side.

Liljegren isnt ready yet or wouldnt be an upgrade over Jensen just creating the same issue. Lehtonen might be able to do this but i think you need to replace 2RHD and Lehtonen is a good or could be good but no reason to risk a season but not properly preparing.

doesn't make sense to go for Eller team needs to stay younger. And Eller is a type of player we could find in ufa no need to waste assets.

maybe vets would add leadership and accountability. they have added upgrades and still have the same results maybe the issue is leadership or some sort of intangibles

So the Caps trade away three of their top 5 PKing forwards and replace them with two wingers who don't PK and a guy who hasn't played an NHL game yet? Bold strategy Cotton.

Let’s hope it pays off lol