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Créé par: Wilbur
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 26 juill. 2020
Publié: 26 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2875 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
12 000 000 $
31 275 000 $
3750 000 $
2785 000 $
52 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
57 000 000 $
54 000 000 $
3750 000 $
3750 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Glendening, Luke
  2. O'Reilly, Ryan [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
DET
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Rights to Phil Kemp
2.
EDM
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. Reichel, Kristian
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
4.
EDM
  1. Bastian, Nathan
  2. Kuokkanen, Janne
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
5.
EDM
  1. Anderson, Josh [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CBJ)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
6.
EDM
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (NSH)
TBL
  1. Khaira, Jujhar (500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $79 747 698 $341 534 $262 500 $1 752 302 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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808 333 $808 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
875 000 $875 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
875 000 $875 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
915 000 $915 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
785 000 $785 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
811 666 $811 666 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, C
UFA - 1

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26 juill. 2020 à 16 h 23
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Why is Detroit paying for Kassian?
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26 juill. 2020 à 16 h 32
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Detroit is rebuilding they aren't going to trade prospects and picks for 29yr old winger. When they have a bigger need centers, a goalie an a LD.
26 juill. 2020 à 16 h 38
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I think those trades for the most part make sense and understand where your coming from with them. Not big on any of the ufa signings
26 juill. 2020 à 16 h 38
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I like Kassian a lot but Detroit isn’t giving up picks and prospects (Glendening will be trades for a 3rd at the deadline) for a guy who we don’t really need. If anything, we’ll acquire a C, LHD, or G
26 juill. 2020 à 16 h 46
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for a second I was like how the hell did rielly get to the wings
26 juill. 2020 à 19 h 43
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Quoting: BStinson
Why is Detroit paying for Kassian?


Because they owe Ken Holland for fleecing him in the AA deal.
26 juill. 2020 à 19 h 49
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Quoting: aedoran
Detroit is rebuilding they aren't going to trade prospects and picks for 29yr old winger. When they have a bigger need centers, a goalie an a LD.


Right Shot forwards are like unicorns in Detroit. Handedness is important, as it creates a different shooting angle and helps in offensive board battles on the RW. Kassian, unlike AA, is still an effective player when he's not scoring. A team like the Wings can also use some toughness, and Kassian is fast, is basically a hometown kid having grown up in Windsor and will be a Stanley Cup champion come October.

A GM like Yzerman will value that, even if fans do not.
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26 juill. 2020 à 19 h 55
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Quoting: redwingsfan04
I like Kassian a lot but Detroit isn’t giving up picks and prospects (Glendening will be trades for a 3rd at the deadline) for a guy who we don’t really need. If anything, we’ll acquire a C, LHD, or G


Glendening isn't worth a 3rd, just like AA wasn't worth a 1st, as I argued in January. Yzerman is a good GM, players will be shaking loose this offseason, I am sure he'll be able pick up D and C's to fill his roster holes.
26 juill. 2020 à 20 h 0
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for a second I was like how the hell did rielly get to the wings


I've tried to get this guy in almost every team I create, lol
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26 juill. 2020 à 20 h 8
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I think those trades for the most part make sense and understand where your coming from with them. Not big on any of the ufa signings



I brought on a few Finn's to help Jesse feel more at home. Christopher Gibson is Finnish, FYI. Jesse knows Kuokkanen very well and Granlund can be a very valuable player, he is definitely superior to Sheahan as a 3C.

Hall has had success with rookie Draisaitl,; an Art Ross-winning Draisaitl + Hall would be an excellent pairing.

The goalies haven't had consistent success, but they have had some and they are at an age that they should reveal themselves as legit NHLers. At worst they are good competition for eachother and provide depth on the farm. At best they are a very good way to save on the Cap.
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26 juill. 2020 à 20 h 14
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Quoting: Wilbur
Glendening isn't worth a 3rd, just like AA wasn't worth a 1st, as I argued in January. Yzerman is a good GM, players will be shaking loose this offseason, I am sure he'll be able pick up D and C's to fill his roster holes.


I don’t think Glendening is worth a 3rd but a team will pay a 3rd for him at the TDL. He’s a cost effective 4C who plays good defence and kills penalties. I’m not going to argue about exactly what he’s worth though since that is opinionated.

Yzerman certainly has a lot to do this offseason, I just don’t see him trading away many picks/prospects, especially for a player that doesn’t fill one of our main needs or fit into our future.
26 juill. 2020 à 23 h 19
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Modifié 27 juill. 2020 à 0 h 58
Quoting: redwingsfan04
I don’t think Glendening is worth a 3rd but a team will pay a 3rd for him at the TDL. He’s a cost effective 4C who plays good defence and kills penalties. I’m not going to argue about exactly what he’s worth though since that is opinionated.

Yzerman certainly has a lot to do this offseason, I just don’t see him trading away many picks/prospects, especially for a player that doesn’t fill one of our main needs or fit into our future.


So you don't think you need any Right Shot Wingers in an organization that has exactly zero on the NHL roster and the same number in the AHL?

Alrighty then.
27 juill. 2020 à 2 h 58
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Quoting: Wilbur
Right Shot forwards are like unicorns in Detroit. Handedness is important, as it creates a different shooting angle and helps in offensive board battles on the RW. Kassian, unlike AA, is still an effective player when he's not scoring. A team like the Wings can also use some toughness, and Kassian is fast, is basically a hometown kid having grown up in Windsor and will be a Stanley Cup champion come October.

A GM like Yzerman will value that, even if fans do not.


So you are saying Detroit needs Kassian because he is a right hand shot. Glendening and O'Reilly are both right hand shots. Why not keep them and the 3rd round pick? Plus Gagner is a right hand shot and he can play center so resigning him makes a lot more sense than trading 3 assets for a 29yr old winger who just signed a 4yr deal on January 29, 2020. So if it doesn't workout Detroit is stuck with him. I'm sorry I just can't see how this is good for Detroit. Personally I have nothing against Kassian and if the Wings were further a long in the rebuild maybe they accept Edmonton's offer.
27 juill. 2020 à 8 h 14
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27 juill. 2020 à 12 h 10
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Why is Edmonton paying for Glendening?
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28 juill. 2020 à 8 h 40
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So you are saying Detroit needs Kassian because he is a right hand shot. Glendening and O'Reilly are both right hand shots. Why not keep them and the 3rd round pick? Plus Gagner is a right hand shot and he can play center so resigning him makes a lot more sense than trading 3 assets for a 29yr old winger who just signed a 4yr deal on January 29, 2020. So if it doesn't workout Detroit is stuck with him. I'm sorry I just can't see how this is good for Detroit. Personally I have nothing against Kassian and if the Wings were further a long in the rebuild maybe they accept Edmonton's offer.


Kassian is much better than you think, adds an element the Wings don't have, can play up and down a line-up, has played PP and PK and is good bet presence. Glendenning is a 4th liner O'Rielly may never play in the NHL and I have no idea about Gagner's fit in Detroit but he is a bottom sixer who they may not want to re-sign, due to his lack of speed.

Kassian is tradable to teams looking for toughness.
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28 juill. 2020 à 8 h 43
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Wings laugh hang up & start sending you help hotline 800 numbers to talk to someone


That's pretty original, did your mommy help you type that?.
28 juill. 2020 à 10 h 24
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Kassian is much better than you think, adds an element the Wings don't have, can play up and down a line-up, has played PP and PK and is good bet presence. Glendenning is a 4th liner O'Rielly may never play in the NHL and I have no idea about Gagner's fit in Detroit but he is a bottom sixer who they may not want to re-sign, due to his lack of speed.

Kassian is tradable to teams looking for toughness.


First this you can flip him doesn't add to his value it takes away from it and it doesn't happen as much as you guys think. Teams don't want to have to go out and make a trade just so they can get even value from their last trade IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. If Kassian is so good KEEP HIM Detroit isn't going to give up a good prospect and a 3rd for a a 29yr old with another 4yrs on his contract.
28 juill. 2020 à 19 h 51
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I'm not sure it's been repeated enough times, so let's do so yet again - Andy for Athanasiou is a non-starter. It's not acceptable. The only reason Andy is being talked about being moved at all is because of his agent, and Athanasiou has the same agent. It doesn't matter how many additional picks you throw in; it's a total non-starter.
28 juill. 2020 à 22 h 59
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Quoting: Wilbur
That's pretty original, did your mommy help you type that?.


Yep..even she knows more than you about hockey
31 juill. 2020 à 12 h 40
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Yep..even she knows more than you about hockey


Clearly she does not
31 juill. 2020 à 12 h 45
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Modifié 31 juill. 2020 à 13 h 3
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I'm not sure it's been repeated enough times, so let's do so yet again - Andy for Athanasiou is a non-starter. It's not acceptable. The only reason Andy is being talked about being moved at all is because of his agent, and Athanasiou has the same agent. It doesn't matter how many additional picks you throw in; it's a total non-starter.


I don't spend very much time on this site and I know nothing about the players' agents, etc. I guess this is not an original thought. But Anderson is seen as a potential cheap acquisition by other fan bases because he is seen as damaged goods. A potential low cost acquisition, albeit a high risk/high reward type of situation.

Because he had a terrible year + injuries and the perception from afar is Columbus might want to get rid of him while there is still some potential value. There is a very real possibility that he will never again be close to the player he once was, and it is a very real possibility, as this is something that happens in pro sports ALL the time.

So Columbus may not want to bear the potential risk of wasting time and money on a maybe, while getting back a much better bet, if not a sure-thing. If another team is willing to take on that risk, Columbus may be more than happy to trade the player and the player might also decide his time is up on that particular team.

Speculation, its what fans love to do. Good luck trying to stop fans from doing what they do.....
31 juill. 2020 à 13 h 4
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First this you can flip him doesn't add to his value it takes away from it and it doesn't happen as much as you guys think. Teams don't want to have to go out and make a trade just so they can get even value from their last trade IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. If Kassian is so good KEEP HIM Detroit isn't going to give up a good prospect and a 3rd for a a 29yr old with another 4yrs on his contract.


Yet it has happened before and will happen again.
31 juill. 2020 à 14 h 42
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Quoting: Wilbur
Yet it has happened before and will happen again.


Yeah ok what once or twice every few years.
31 juill. 2020 à 21 h 23
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Quoting: Wilbur
I don't spend very much time on this site and I know nothing about the players' agents, etc. I guess this is not an original thought. But Anderson is seen as a potential cheap acquisition by other fan bases because he is seen as damaged goods. A potential low cost acquisition, albeit a high risk/high reward type of situation.

Then they're wrong. Because Anderson has been a legitimate high-speed goal scoring power forward; such things are extremely rare. And we pay literally nothing to attempt that risk ourselves. We know he's a fit here; he's actively demonstrated it. So we're not going to sell him at a discount. We're infinitely better off making that gamble ourselves.
 
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