Everyone seems to jump on trying to rob teams prospect pools dry. Teams don’t spend years collecting assets to fire off in one trade that’s incredibly rare to see. Dealing a big talent like Mathews or Eichel the teams will want to rebalance the line up and be a contender for making the move. I made a Mathews to St. Louis trade this morning that I think makes a lot more sense than futures

I think Eichel is terrific but I am not sure he's as good as Matthews. Matthews has out performed him in all their same age seasons. Eichel is more in the next group with Aho, Barkov etc

Im very curious and this is obviously hypothetical how Matthews would do in AZ. I mean he wouldn't have JT or marner/nyalnder. easy to look great with help. not saying hes not amazing but its easy to glorify a player when hes surrounded by talent. like swap Matthews and Eichel do you think Matthews breaks 40 goals?

I argee. problem is Matthews is on an offensively load TO team. none of those players come with him he would be alone. how would he handle actually having to carry a team on his own. could he do it? I look at a guy like Ovechkin who carried Washington for years...he had Backstrom but not much else. or Hall when he won MVP. carry price the year he won MVP could Matthews carry a bad team to the playoffs. I mean Toronto was the 8th best team with all its talent in the east.

misleading probably is an understatement too ahahah

Agree with you completely. If the Leafs did trade Matthews (or Marner) it would be to gain cap for other acquisitions. Keller doesn't seem like a 7.125m X 8 bargain.

Nah, eichel is arguably better than matthews. They are in the same tier 100%. Matthews has been surrounded by the likes of nylander, marner, tavares to name a few. Eichel has single handedly carried his team and lines hes on. If Eichel was on TOR and matthews on BUF, eichel would be considered the better of the two. They are the same tier however

im just saying name the top 3 2 way centers....in no order

Bergeron
Barkov
Coots

they all play PK...something doesn't add up here

Draisaitl averages 1m/gm more pk time than Matthews.

this is my point. eichel just put up better ppg with curtis lazar, evan rodrigues and marcus johansson serving as 2C with sobotka and company at RW

Agreed.

I wont argue this ….. that one dude is like " Matthews is an elite defensive Center" Matthews averages .01/gm pk haha Eichel .31/gm pk.... thisis why I think his elite defensive center point makes me laugh

Insane debate to have its pretty simple in the end Mathews may have improved on defensive play but zero absolutely zero reason or right to consider an elite defensive C when he isn’t even trusted to play pk. Granted I’m pretty sure his job is to produce offence not play pk but that’s why call him an elite offensive C.

I agree. but when you have a guy like hyman and marner/nylander as linemates im sure that helps

Considering Matthews broke 40 in his rookie season with 2 rookies on his wings and no JT taking heavy loads..........yes yes he would break 40

2 rookies? oh!! you mean marner and nylander? both top 10 1st round picks? marner and nylander had 61 points.... yeah struggle is real with both those guys. are those the guys you are referring to? if so this is hilarious "rookie" …..

I disagree. Matthews scored 40 goals as a rookie with two other rookies on his line. He makes everyone around him better. Eichel is definitely close but he's not as good as Matthews.

Matthews has consistently been surrounded by a much better team. No arguing that. And Eichel is much more complete at this point. they are even if anything

That is completely false. Matthews is better in almost every conceivable stat. Better offence (measured by PPG over their career), better goal scorer, better defensively and much better at FO's. The only think Eichel is better at is top end speed and playmaking but even at that Matthews is an underrated play maker. He scores a lot but is also a terrific setup guy.

Marners didn't play Matthews rookie year, just Nylander.

Matthews rookie season he played with Hyman (123 OA) rookie and Nylander rookie, Marner skated with Bozak and JVR

Matthews rookie season he played with Hyman (123 OA) rookie and Nylander rookie, Marner skated with Bozak and JVR

You were absolutely one of those Nylander is just a 60 point winger guys funny how he was so overrated but so incredible at the same time. You're a good

Youre an overly opinionated maple leaf fan therefore trying to tell you matthews isnt the greatest player to ever wear skates is pointless. Most fans agree with what i have said and im content with that. good day

Interesting, most claim Nylander is only any good because of Matthews but here you claim Matthews only has better stats because he's surrounded by better players - fact 1 - Leafs were bottom of the league when they drafted Matthews and his rookie year they made the playoffs with no JT but with a bunch of rookies and Bozak - Sabres have consistently drafted top 10 for over a decade and can't seem to be in the hunt beyond 40 games - seems to me Matthews is a winner and Eichel well not so much

just say that he played with hyman and nylander why try to make a point more valid by being vague



nylander is overrated to the point ive seen people compare him to Marner today. but to refer to him as a "rookie" is dumb. he had talent around him.

bro you are claiming Matthews is an elite defensive center and he averages 1 entire second a game on the Pk something isn't adding up. his D play has improved but you are painting a picture like dude is Bergeron. nobody will disagree that Matthews is gifted offensively mainly scoring but if you want to hype ill give you hype. Ovechkin score 50 his rookie year playing with Dainius Zubrus and Jeff Halpern... yeah lets compare talent levels there