Didn't you guys learn anything from putting Kotkaniemi in at #2C prematurely?

Getzlaf would immediately be your team's best defensive center, and as one of the best passers in the league he would be great between Domi and Suzuki. Doubt he waives to go there, though.

He's 35 Years old and we are giving up 3 quality future pieces for him. Consider where we are as a team, Montreal isn't ready for a trade like that.

Avalanche and Rangers trades are fine.

With all those new first-round picks, you could start shifting some of those seconds into 2021.

I doubt that Getzlaf waives to finish his career in Montreal, but if he does, we wouldn't trade both Getzlaf and Henrique.

No need for Arizona to have to pay us to take Stepan. If we trade either of our two veteran centers, he would be a good fallback at a cheap price.

Liljegren and the 2021 second is a fine return for Manson.

The only guy on Buffalo's roster in whom we're interested is Henri Jokiharju. You can decide what you think is fair to fill that exchange out.

Suzuki played 2C and was ****ing good what you mean ? Kotkaniemi was 18-19 yo, Suzuki is 20 yo. We want to keep Suzuki at center, worse case Domi stays 2C and Suzuki move to the wing. We need Tatar Drouin on the top6 LW

COL yes NYR maybe TOR maybe MTL no ARI no

There's nothing in my comment to which you are responding that suggested I think Suzuki isn't good. In fact, I think he'll cement his place in your top-6 as early as next season, so the reflexive defensiveness with which you answered my reply almost immediately tells me you're thinking emotionally. Moving Suzuki to RW and relieving him of defensive and playmaking responsibilities and being fed by Getzlaf will make him a 60 pt + player next year and will reduce the pressure that KK felt. Since the single player most traded in Montreal ACGMs I've seen this year is Max Domi, I assume that he won't be playing LW or C for the Canadiens next year.

Well, if you think that your team is going to be out of it early again next season, then I sympathize with you. To me, you might have a chance at a playoff spot and you have a wealth of futures in the 2020 draft (and I would take your 2021 second instead of the Chicago 2nd). If Getzlaf were willing to go to Montreal, freeing up Domi to be traded elsewhere to make future room for KK and Suzuki, I think a second line of Drouin-Getzlaf-Suzuki (or Domi-Getzlaf-Suzuki) would be pretty successful.

I just said Suzuki was ****ing good at 2C, nothing against you, you can read back. He played on the 4th line RW with Thompson and played well, played 2RW and played well, but was at is best playing 2C.

Hey man... all of your trade are TOO MUCH on Anaheim side!
One year of Getz would get you a A-Prospect +2x2nd...
Same with Lindholm... OUTCH! Lunkvist & Robertson should have a big role starting next season... +1st!
Rakell is the closest one but again you select the a BlueChip + 1st (some team would pay this as Rakell as a very low salary point for cash)
Henrique would get you Montour alone or Hutton alone... or Johansen+2nd MAX... NOT ALL!

Great let’s extend a then to be like 29 year old on a way too expensive contract

I had feeling but didn't want to undersell a complete sell of ya know

I'd do the top 3 deals. Although I am not a massive fan of the COL deal. However, that does seem to be Rakell's going rate.

Getzlaf stays for me and I doubt we'd take back Montour. Murray really didn't like him. Moreover, we need some veteran leaders and Henrique has deep playoff experience, he's also incredibly versatile and a good role model.



If ANA secured Lundkvist from NYR in exchange for Lindholm, I would think Liljegren + 2nd for Manson would be a very strong offer. In this scenario, I don't think Dermot is make or break either.

The Lindholm deal is fine. Lundkvist + 1st for Lindholm is the price you pay for a top pairing defensively elite D-man. I assume Robertson is there because we're taking Staal on as a dump. I've seen another deal where it is Andersson + DeAngelo + Lundkvist + 1st. FWIW, I'd also do that deal too.

IMO Lindholm would be perfect in NYR, where the system seems to be to heavily weight minutes in zones based on skillset e.g. as an offensive D-man, DeAngelo gets a stupid amount of offensive starts and pretty much all PP time. Lindholm excels in defensive situations and could comfortably eat the big defensive minutes that Trouba really isn't suited for (and Skjei couldn't handle either). Lindholm's addition would also allow NYR to get more out of Trouba, who is really more offensively-gifted than he's allowed to be in his current role.

IMO, with the rise of Zibby as a legit 1C and the addition of Panarin, I really don't think NYR is that far off. It is literally that LHD side that looks so weak. You could also use a better 2C.

I didn't figure he would be for the Ducks considering general replies on here consist of 'we don't need him' when he's traded there. My point was that if Dermott needed to be included in the deal along with Liljegren +2nd, it's too high a price for the Leafs, imo. And considering the consensus that he doesn't need to be included for the Ducks to do the deal, I was curious why include him at all.

As a NYR fan, I assume the OP isn't completely up-to-date on the previous goings-on in ANA-TOR trade threads.

Our need is for a young prospect like Liljegren if we're going to move Manson. Adding Dermott in addition as a roster player would be nice, but I very much doubt he'd be the main piece in a deal for Manson. I assume most of the threads you're referring to were Dermott+ for Manson and no Liljegren. Liljegren + 2nd for Manson is a good offer and one I am sure ANA strongly considers.