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MIN blockbuster

Créé par: sabertooth12
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 6 mai 2020
Publié: 6 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Brodin, Jonas
  2. Staal, Eric
Détails additionnels:
MIN gets a future top 6 center, future top 4 defenseman that were both recent 1st round picks, and McCabe who can fill the shutdown defenseman role Brodin did. Sabres get a long term answer at second pair LD and a stopgap 2C for Cozens.
MIN
  1. Johnson, Ryan [Liste de réserve]
  2. McCabe, Jake
  3. Mittelstadt, Casey [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
I can't see how this deal isn't fair. Brodin and Staal only have one year left on their deals so their values cannot be super high. This would mean MIN is probably embracing a rebuild this year, but in that division, are they really making the playoffs anyway? As a Sabres fan, it is tough to see two potentially future core pieces go, but the franchise is at a point where they have to win now. I still believe in Mitts, he has improved every year and was thrown to the wolves his rookie year, which tanked his stock. Bonus: Mitts is from MIN, Johnson plays at the University of MIN, and McCabe isn't from too far away in Wisconsin. Sabres draft Rossi or Lundell and to replace Mitts in the prospect pool
2.
BUF
  1. Tuch, Alex
VGK
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
Détails additionnels:
I like this trade for both sides a lot. If you can't get a guy like Tuch or Garland for Risto, trade him for a 2nd and a top RD prospect
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1181 500 000 $50 795 834 $1 487 500 $3 487 500 $30 704 166 $
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Skinner, Jeff
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Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
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Okposo, Kyle
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
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Johansson, Marcus
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
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Tuch, Alex
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
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Staal, Eric
1 625 000 $1 625 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
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Miller, Colin
3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
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Jokiharju, Henri
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
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Brodin, Jonas
4 166 667 $4 166 667 $
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UFA - 1

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6 mai 2020 à 13 h 34
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I dont think MIN does that. They could get more value selling Staal and Brodin separately instead of in the same trade package imo
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Brodin having a year left is irrelevant, unless he's told Wild management he's not happy and leaving. Not sure why people keep bringing that up for a core player the Wild don't seem to be actively shopping.

And yes, the Wild could make the playoffs. League average goaltending would have had them comfortably in a playoff spot this season. They're probably not going anywhere once they're in, but they could make it.
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6 mai 2020 à 13 h 51
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Quoting: JayTea
Brodin having a year left is irrelevant, unless he's told Wild management he's not happy and leaving. Not sure why people keep bringing that up for a core player the Wild don't seem to be actively shopping.

And yes, the Wild could make the playoffs. League average goaltending would have had them comfortably in a playoff spot this season. They're probably not going anywhere once they're in, but they could make it.


BuT DuBnYk Is ElItE, ThEy HaD gReAt GoAlTeNdInG!
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BuT DuBnYk Is ElItE, ThEy HaD gReAt GoAlTeNdInG!


A few years back I would have died on the hill that Dubnyk was a fantastic goaltender. He probably was for a year or so, but looking back I think his gaudy performance was because of our great blue liners limiting the amount of high danger chances he faced.
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6 mai 2020 à 13 h 59
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Quoting: JayTea
Brodin having a year left is irrelevant, unless he's told Wild management he's not happy and leaving. Not sure why people keep bringing that up for a core player the Wild don't seem to be actively shopping.

And yes, the Wild could make the playoffs. League average goaltending would have had them comfortably in a playoff spot this season. They're probably not going anywhere once they're in, but they could make it.


With this trade, Mitts becomes the best Center in the organization. He has a higher ceiling than EK- who is solid, Boldy I don't think will be a C in the nhl- he seems like more of a winger, Khovanov deserves a mention but I would take Mitts over him, and whoever they draft at 11 in this coming draft will probably not have as high of a ceiling. Lundell will not be there. I think if you put proper pieces around Mitts he can be very good. With the Sabres his wingers were Sobodka, Pominville, Vesey, Sheary, etc. That sucks
6 mai 2020 à 14 h 1
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A few years back I would have died on the hill that Dubnyk was a fantastic goaltender. He probably was for a year or so, but looking back I think his gaudy performance was because of our great blue liners limiting the amount of high danger chances he faced.


Say the Sabres take Dubnyk and add a second to the deal, does that move the needle?
6 mai 2020 à 14 h 11
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Quoting: JayTea
Brodin having a year left is irrelevant, unless he's told Wild management he's not happy and leaving. Not sure why people keep bringing that up for a core player the Wild don't seem to be actively shopping.

And yes, the Wild could make the playoffs. League average goaltending would have had them comfortably in a playoff spot this season. They're probably not going anywhere once they're in, but they could make it.


Spurgeon and Suter both make over 7.5 million and Dumba makes 6 million, you think they are going to pay 4 defensemen over 6 million?
6 mai 2020 à 14 h 28
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Spurgeon and Suter both make over 7.5 million and Dumba makes 6 million, you think they are going to pay 4 defensemen over 6 million?


I think they'll find a way to move Dumba before they move Brodin. Soucy and Brodin were a solid pair for a stretch this season. But to answer your question, yes, I think they'd try to keep Brodin around for something like $6m AAV or so. It's not like they have a franchise center to spend the money on. lol
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A few years back I would have died on the hill that Dubnyk was a fantastic goaltender. He probably was for a year or so, but looking back I think his gaudy performance was because of our great blue liners limiting the amount of high danger chances he faced.


He's had stretches where he was the only thing keeping the team in it. He was great to start the 18/19 season until he met Tom Wilson, but this past season he just wasn't good. I do wonder how much his wife's medical problems distracted him, it couldn't have been easy for him playing through that.
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He's had stretches where he was the only thing keeping the team in it. He was great to start the 18/19 season until he met Tom Wilson, but this past season he just wasn't good. I do wonder how much his wife's medical problems distracted him, it couldn't have been easy for him playing through that.


There were stretches of greatness for sure, but ultimately I think most of his success was because of the players in front of him. And I agree about his wife, I will always have a soft spot for Dubs so hopefully he can get his career back on track but sadly I don't think it will be with the Wild.
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There were stretches of greatness for sure, but ultimately I think most of his success was because of the players in front of him. And I agree about his wife, I will always have a soft spot for Dubs so hopefully he can get his career back on track but sadly I don't think it will be with the Wild.


Yeah, I hope he manages to pull it together on the Wild. I don't want to see his time here end the way Backstrom's did.
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Quoting: JayTea
Brodin having a year left is irrelevant, unless he's told Wild management he's not happy and leaving. Not sure why people keep bringing that up for a core player the Wild don't seem to be actively shopping.

And yes, the Wild could make the playoffs. League average goaltending would have had them comfortably in a playoff spot this season. They're probably not going anywhere once they're in, but they could make it.


Because IF they trade Brodin,
then how long he has left on his contract affects his value
For example:
You’d get back more if he had 3 years left on his deal

Isn’t that kind of obvious?
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Because IF they trade Brodin,
then how long he has left on his contract affects his value
For example:
You’d get back more if he had 3 years left on his deal

Isn’t that kind of obvious?


It doesn't when the OP says in the trade description "Sabres get a long term answer at second pair LD". They're not trading for 1 year, they're trading for the player that they intend to sign long-term and they don't get that chance unless they pay what the Wild would want. Considering the Wild will likely just extend him and keep him, the 1 year left doesn't matter. Not a difficult concept really.
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It doesn't when the OP says in the trade description "Sabres get a long term answer at second pair LD". They're not trading for 1 year, they're trading for the player that they intend to sign long-term and they don't get that chance unless they pay what the Wild would want. Considering the Wild will likely just extend him and keep him, the 1 year left doesn't matter. Not a difficult concept really.


Until they do sign him to an extension,
he has ONE year left
And that absolutely affects his value

And just bc the Sabres would WANT to sign him long term,
there’s no guarantee he would

Therefore,
his trade value is that of a player with a 1 year deal
NOT
a long term extension

It’s not difficult, YOU just don’t get it
6 mai 2020 à 16 h 3
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Fellow buffalo fans chronically overeating Ristos trade value. You're not getting a 2nd and top RHD prospect like its cake
7 mai 2020 à 14 h 36
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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
Fellow buffalo fans chronically overeating Ristos trade value. You're not getting a 2nd and top RHD prospect like its cake


True maybe not top. Maybe a B+ prospect who wasn't a found round pick.
 
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