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Kreider Toffoli and Thornton

Créé par: AgentWebster
Équipe: 2019-20 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 25 janv. 2020
Publié: 25 janv. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
BOS
  1. Toffoli, Tyler (2 300 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Lauzon, Jérémy
  2. Senyshyn, Zach
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
2.
BOS
  1. Kreider, Chris (2 312 500 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Nordström, Joakim
  2. Ritchie, Brett
  3. Steen, Oskar
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
  5. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
3.
BOS
  1. Thornton, Joe
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
SJS
  1. Backes, David
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
I've heard he hates Boston but when your at the very end and really want a cup things change. Time heals all wounds. Things come full circle for Thornton to get a cup......reminds me when we shipped Bourque for him to get a cup. We do this for bottom 6 help and to dump Backes and his cap hit.
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25 janv. 2020 à 17 h 35
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Take out the 4th from LA and Lauzon. Deal.

Rangers decline.

Thornton declines. So does Boston.
25 janv. 2020 à 17 h 39
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Take out the 4th from LA and Lauzon. Deal.

Rangers decline.

Thornton declines. So does Boston.


Do you really think that would be enough to get Tyler then after that?

What would get that Rangers deal done then?

To me that is a full circle type story and you never know if he declines cool
25 janv. 2020 à 17 h 54
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during the summer so many boston fans were yelling at me that they didn't need kreider. they boasted about their deep LWers. only a few months later and here we are, on your hands and knees begging for our LW. pony up the big bucks mofo's, gotta pay to play. enjoy your winter, it's going to be a cold one.
25 janv. 2020 à 17 h 55
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Do you really think that would be enough to get Tyler then after that?

What would get that Rangers deal done then?

To me that is a full circle type story and you never know if he declines cool


2nd and Seny enough.

To much trash in the Rangers deal. High pick mid prospect. Or mid pick high prospect. Leave the rest out.

Thornton hates the B’s org. Even if he did not have the NMC he’d probably retire rather than report. On top of that at this point he’s no better than Backes on the ice.
25 janv. 2020 à 17 h 55
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Quoting: AgentWebster
Do you really think that would be enough to get Tyler then after that?

What would get that Rangers deal done then?

To me that is a full circle type story and you never know if he declines cool


To answer your 2nd question....

Bruins have one of the worst prospect pools in the league: https://theathletic.com/1464556/2020/01/14/wheelers-2020-nhl-prospect-pool-rankings-no-30-boston-bruins/

The price for Kreider is a 2020 1st + B prospect (According to Dreger and others) That B prospect will undoubtedly be a F because of the Rangers depth of D in their pool

The Bruins pool features 1 A prospect, 2 B prospects (Beecher, Vaakanainen) and some B-/C+ prospects (Steen, Lauko)

Some considered deals from other teams include

1st + Alex Barre Boulet
1st + Henrik Borgstrom
1st + Filip Hallander
1st + Klim Kostin
1st + Janne Kuokkanen

The only F prospect the Bruins have in this tier is Beecher.

Bruins fan won't want to do it, but because the prospect pool is so drained, the only thing that really works is a 1st + Beecher. If you guys want to try and negotiate an extension, that's on you. But that's about the market rate for Kreider.
25 janv. 2020 à 17 h 56
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Quoting: gregory_papas
during the summer so many boston fans were yelling at me that they didn't need kreider. they boasted about their deep LWers. only a few months later and here we are, on your hands and knees begging for our LW. pony up the big bucks mofo's, gotta pay to play. enjoy your winter, it's going to be a cold one.



Still don’t. Need the RW.
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25 janv. 2020 à 18 h 4
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To answer your 2nd question....

Bruins have one of the worst prospect pools in the league: https://theathletic.com/1464556/2020/01/14/wheelers-2020-nhl-prospect-pool-rankings-no-30-boston-bruins/

The price for Kreider is a 2020 1st + B prospect (According to Dreger and others) That B prospect will undoubtedly be a F because of the Rangers depth of D in their pool

The Bruins pool features 1 A prospect, 2 B prospects (Beecher, Vaakanainen) and some B-/C+ prospects (Steen, Lauko)

Some considered deals from other teams include

1st + Alex Barre Boulet
1st + Henrik Borgstrom
1st + Filip Hallander
1st + Klim Kostin
1st + Janne Kuokkanen

The only F prospect the Bruins have in this tier is Beecher.

Bruins fan won't want to do it, but because the prospect pool is so drained, the only thing that really works is a 1st + Beecher. If you guys want to try and negotiate an extension, that's on you. But that's about the market rate for Kreider.


there is no way in hell we trade Barre-Boulet and a 1st for a rental Toffoli
25 janv. 2020 à 18 h 7
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there is no way in hell we trade Barre-Boulet and a 1st for a rental Toffoli


who said Toffoli....that's for Kreider.
25 janv. 2020 à 18 h 37
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To answer your 2nd question....

Bruins have one of the worst prospect pools in the league: https://theathletic.com/1464556/2020/01/14/wheelers-2020-nhl-prospect-pool-rankings-no-30-boston-bruins/

The price for Kreider is a 2020 1st + B prospect (According to Dreger and others) That B prospect will undoubtedly be a F because of the Rangers depth of D in their pool

The Bruins pool features 1 A prospect, 2 B prospects (Beecher, Vaakanainen) and some B-/C+ prospects (Steen, Lauko)

Some considered deals from other teams include

1st + Alex Barre Boulet
1st + Henrik Borgstrom
1st + Filip Hallander
1st + Klim Kostin
1st + Janne Kuokkanen

The only F prospect the Bruins have in this tier is Beecher.

Bruins fan won't want to do it, but because the prospect pool is so drained, the only thing that really works is a 1st + Beecher. If you guys want to try and negotiate an extension, that's on you. But that's about the market rate for Kreider.


Lol prospect rankings are a joke. They're litterally written just to get clicks and views and make people argue.
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25 janv. 2020 à 18 h 39
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Quoting: gregory_papas
during the summer so many boston fans were yelling at me that they didn't need kreider. they boasted about their deep LWers. only a few months later and here we are, on your hands and knees begging for our LW. pony up the big bucks mofo's, gotta pay to play. enjoy your winter, it's going to be a cold one.


We have LWer's playing RW because we dont have room for them all. The only appeal to Kreider is he can play RW.
25 janv. 2020 à 18 h 43
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Quoting: Sagecoll
who said Toffoli....that's for Kreider.


My bad. But I wouldn’t do that for Kreider either
25 janv. 2020 à 18 h 52
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No thanks Kreider and Thornton

would also like to keep Senyshyn since there's no guarantee Toffoli stays and Bruins don't have much on RW (prospects)
25 janv. 2020 à 18 h 53
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Quoting: ON3M4N
We have LWer's playing RW because we dont have room for them all. The only appeal to Kreider is he can play RW.


that's what my argument was at that time. kreider would fit good with boston. he is also from the area, went to BU. if he was going to give nay team a discount i would think boston would be the team. if they decided to make room to re-sign him.
25 janv. 2020 à 18 h 56
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that's what my argument was at that time. kreider would fit good with boston. he is also from the area, went to BU. if he was going to give nay team a discount i would think boston would be the team. if they decided to make room to re-sign him.


Problem was back then that NYR had signed Panarin and traded for guys like Trouba and Fox. They weren't going to be looking for futures in a deal.

Boston also would have had a hard time fitting him under the cap.
25 janv. 2020 à 19 h 6
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during the summer so many boston fans were yelling at me that they didn't need kreider. they boasted about their deep LWers. only a few months later and here we are, on your hands and knees begging for our LW. pony up the big bucks mofo's, gotta pay to play. enjoy your winter, it's going to be a cold one.


literally no one has ever said the bruins have great LW depth
25 janv. 2020 à 19 h 19
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literally no one has ever said the bruins have great LW depth


i beg the defer my friend. i heard many say Lindholm is going to be your 3rd line LW this season, who will be competing for 2nd line mins. how we forget so soon.
25 janv. 2020 à 19 h 20
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Problem was back then that NYR had signed Panarin and traded for guys like Trouba and Fox. They weren't going to be looking for futures in a deal.

Boston also would have had a hard time fitting him under the cap.


this is true, and i agree with you.
25 janv. 2020 à 19 h 27
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i beg the defer my friend. i heard many say Lindholm is going to be your 3rd line LW this season, who will be competing for 2nd line mins. how we forget so soon.


no, nobody said that a guy who scored one goal in 65 games last year was going to be in our top 6
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25 janv. 2020 à 19 h 43
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no, nobody said that a guy who scored one goal in 65 games last year was going to be in our top 6


don't be stubborn, stupid. it was said. look into it.
25 janv. 2020 à 19 h 57
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Quoting: Bruinsbeatz
literally no one has ever said the bruins have great LW depth


I did, so have plenty others, because with Marchand, Debrusk, Heinen, Bjork they are set for top 9 LW, they need RW.
25 janv. 2020 à 19 h 59
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i beg the defer my friend. i heard many say Lindholm is going to be your 3rd line LW this season, who will be competing for 2nd line mins. how we forget so soon.


Nobody has mentioned Lindholm. If they did they are idiots. Got a pretty good idea who it might have been if it did happen. Lol.
 
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