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Créé par: Sidstick87
Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 14 déc. 2019
Publié: 16 déc. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
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THE 3 - TEAM TRADE "BREAKDahn"

FLORIDA GETS :
- LW- T. Hall (w/ $2m Retained by NJD) *Forgot in trade
- C- P. Zacha
- G- C. DeSmith

PENS GET :
- C/RW- V. Trocheck
- G- S. Montembeault (WBS)

NJD GET :
- LW- A. Galchenyuk
- RHD- M. Pysyk
- RW- O. Tippett (Prospect)
- LW- K. Bjorkqvist (Prospect)
- 2020 - 1st Round Pick (FLO)
- 2021 - 2nd Round Pick (PIT)
- Retaining $2m of Hall Cap Hit
- Conditional 2021 - 3rd Round Pick (FLO) - If Hall Re-signs

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Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Pysyk, Mark
  2. Tippett, Owen
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
FLA
    * START OF 3 - TEAM TRADE *
    NJD - PIT - FLO
    (Trade Breakdown in Description Part)
    2.
    PIT
    1. Hall, Taylor
    2. Zacha, Pavel
    Détails additionnels:
    * PART OF 3 - TEAM TRADE *
    NJD - PIT - FLO
    (Trade Breakdown in Description Part)
    NJD
    1. Björkqvist, Kasper
    2. Galchenyuk, Alex
    3. Pysyk, Mark
    4. Tippett, Owen
    5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
    6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
    7. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
    Détails additionnels:
    2021 3rd Rdr is CONDITIONAL of Taylor Hall Re-signing in Florida.
    3.
    FLA
    1. DeSmith, Casey
    2. Hall, Taylor
    3. Zacha, Pavel
    Détails additionnels:
    * END OF 3 - TEAM TRADE *
    NJD - PIT - FLO
    (Trade Breakdown in Description Part)
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $74 481 625 $132 500 $3 700 000 $7 018 375 $
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    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    C, AD
    UFA - 3
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    C, AG
    UFA - 1
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    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
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    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
    AG, AD, C
    UFA - 1
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    2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
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    AD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
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    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
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    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    874 125 $874 125 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    UFA - 2
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    675 000 $675 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    850 000 $850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    700 000 $700 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2

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    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 20
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    Is Pitt even giving up enough?
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    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 22
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    Quoting: csick
    Is Pitt even giving up enough?


    Not even close
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    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 22
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    PIT giving up too little, FLA giving up too much
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    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 23
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    Is Pitt even giving up enough?


    Im Not sure - It hurt my brain just trying to figure out trying to make kinda even , lol.

    Chucky - DeSmith - Bjorkqvist (2nd Rdr) - and a 2nd Rdr ... Seemed like alot??
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    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 24
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    Fla giving up way too much, Trochek, Pysyk, Tippett, 1st, Montembeault
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    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 24
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    PIT giving up too little, FLA giving up too much


    Prob right , 3 team trades are tough tho
    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 27
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    Not even close


    yah, I think Im gona try again ... but 3 teamers are tough... What do u think is missing?
    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 28
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    Im Not sure - It hurt my brain just trying to figure out trying to make kinda even , lol.

    Chucky - DeSmith - Bjorkqvist (2nd Rdr) - and a 2nd Rdr ... Seemed like alot??


    Galchenyuk doesn't have a lot of value after moving between 3 teams is 3/4 years and not putting it together - DeSmith is 28 and your lowest valued goalie - Bjorkqvist is a 2nd rounder, but he's already 22 and not looking great - and a late-ish 2nd
    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 33
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    Galchenyuk doesn't have a lot of value after moving between 3 teams is 3/4 years and not putting it together - DeSmith is 28 and your lowest valued goalie - Bjorkqvist is a 2nd rounder, but he's already 22 and not looking great - and a late-ish 2nd


    Actually Bjorkqvist was looking good before he got hurt - in his 1st pro season. DeSmith was one of the best back-ups in NHL last year, we are just so deep in every position tho.
    I still think Chucky has some value, he is still only 25 but i get what ur saying
    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 36
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    yah, I think Im gona try again ... but 3 teamers are tough... What do u think is missing?


    3 teamers r very hard, I usually just stay away from them (even though I just posted one)

    Trochek isn’t going anywhere, but maybe u change him to Gusev, which in that case I don’t think it would need much editing
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    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 44
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    Is Trocheck broken? He is basically a 15g 50pt guy now.

    Not including the NJ-Fla portion, just the Pens... Galchenyuk, Bjorkqvist, DeSmith, 2nd for Trocheck, Montembeault
    I don't think that is all that off, especially since Trocheck seems to be sliding. Do him a solid sending him to his hometown team.
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    16 déc. 2019 à 12 h 46
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    Actually Bjorkqvist was looking good before he got hurt - in his 1st pro season. DeSmith was one of the best back-ups in NHL last year, we are just so deep in every position tho.
    I still think Chucky has some value, he is still only 25 but i get what ur saying


    maybe something like this with whatever retention may be necessary

    FLA gets: Hall, Zacha, Domingue, Simon

    PIT gets: Trocheck, Woods, Montembeault

    NJD gets: Murray, Tippett, Bjorkqvist, 2nd (FLA), 4th (FLA)
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    16 déc. 2019 à 13 h 14
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    When doing 3-way trades, a good way to see whether the value the teams are giving up is fair when compared to what other teams are giving/getting.

    NJ loses:
    - Hall
    - Zacha

    And what they get:
    - Two pending UFAs with relatively low value (Galchenyuk, Pysyk)
    - Two decent prospects (Tippett, Björkqvist)
    - 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks.

    Overall, I think NJ is a winner in that comparison...

    FLA gets
    - Hall
    - Zacha
    - DeSmith

    And they lose
    - Trocheck
    - Tippett
    - Pysyk
    - Montembeault
    - 1st
    - 3rd

    I think they lose way too much. Trocheck's alone worth more than Zacha and DeSmith...the amount that they have to pay for Hall is just way out of proportion.

    And PIT gets
    - Trocheck
    - Montembeault

    In exchange to
    - Galchenyuk
    - Björkqvist
    - DeSmith
    - 2nd round pick.

    PIT is a clear winner here. As mentioned before, Trocheck's value is pretty high, he plays in high level with a good contract. Chucky's been pretty bad. DeSmith carries small trade value due to already being waived once, and Björkqvist and 2nd are pretty much equal. FLA should maybe consider moving Trocheck for futures if they were out of playoff picture, but that's not the case...

    Overall, NJ gets good value, Pens fleeces FLA and FLA gets f*cked with a rusty crowbar.
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    16 déc. 2019 à 17 h 10
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    Quoting: BurgerBoss
    When doing 3-way trades, a good way to see whether the value the teams are giving up is fair when compared to what other teams are giving/getting.

    NJ loses:
    - Hall
    - Zacha

    And what they get:
    - Two pending UFAs with relatively low value (Galchenyuk, Pysyk)
    - Two decent prospects (Tippett, Björkqvist)
    - 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks.

    Overall, I think NJ is a winner in that comparison...

    FLA gets
    - Hall
    - Zacha
    - DeSmith

    And they lose
    - Trocheck
    - Tippett
    - Pysyk
    - Montembeault
    - 1st
    - 3rd

    I think they lose way too much. Trocheck's alone worth more than Zacha and DeSmith...the amount that they have to pay for Hall is just way out of proportion.

    And PIT gets
    - Trocheck
    - Montembeault

    In exchange to
    - Galchenyuk
    - Björkqvist
    - DeSmith
    - 2nd round pick.

    PIT is a clear winner here. As mentioned before, Trocheck's value is pretty high, he plays in high level with a good contract. Chucky's been pretty bad. DeSmith carries small trade value due to already being waived once, and Björkqvist and 2nd are pretty much equal. FLA should maybe consider moving Trocheck for futures if they were out of playoff picture, but that's not the case...

    Overall, NJ gets good value, Pens fleeces FLA and FLA gets f*cked with a rusty crowbar.


    Thanks Bud, I like doing them bc they are a challenge - I usually have to start over bc i have like 8 players /prospects/ picks on each list, trying to make even, LOL.
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    16 déc. 2019 à 17 h 12
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    Quoting: Yojimbo
    Is Trocheck broken? He is basically a 15g 50pt guy now.

    Not including the NJ-Fla portion, just the Pens... Galchenyuk, Bjorkqvist, DeSmith, 2nd for Trocheck, Montembeault
    I don't think that is all that off, especially since Trocheck seems to be sliding. Do him a solid sending him to his hometown team.


    Thanks and I think that was how I was looking at his value rite now too??? Kinda like how Schultz value is sliding too but both had same injuries at same time??
    16 déc. 2019 à 18 h 13
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    So if I get this right, Florida gives up a 1st & a 3rd and two players for NOTHING. The Penguins acquire Hall and partial payment is Florida’s picks and prospect Tippett, so the Penguins can then move Hall & Zacha to Florida to get Trocheck & Montembeault?

    Here is a thought. How about the Panthers and Devils trade among themselves? Tell the Penguins to go home. Somewhere in the world Jim Rutherford is crying.

    Somewhere in the world
     
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