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Hall to BUF

Créé par: FireShero
Équipe: 2019-20 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 11 oct. 2019
Publié: 1 nov. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Hall to Buffalo, signals the Sabers are serious about winning, and improves their top 6. Plus by trading Okposo, at a cost because of his bad contract, BUF has some room to resign Hall if they want with Okposo's/ Bogosian's contracts gone and Sheary, Sobotka, Hunwich, and Scandella all expiring.

What do you think?
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NJD
  1. Bogosian, Zach
  2. Cozens, Dylan
  3. Okposo, Kyle
  4. Samuelsson, Mattias [Liste de réserve]
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
2021 2nd becomes a 1st if Hall resigns
BUF
  1. Hall, Taylor (3 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Simmonds, Wayne
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1 nov. 2019 à 13 h 6
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No lol Bogosian and Okposo not even close. They will want Dahlin at this point.
1 nov. 2019 à 13 h 8
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Change the 2021 pick to a first rounder and the 2020 to a 3rd and I think it's a good trade. I know Cozens is a stud, but moving Okposo's contract requires a first round pick in itself.
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1 nov. 2019 à 13 h 12
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
No lol Bogosian and Okposo not even close. They will want Dahlin at this point.

A 19 year old franchise defender for a guy whose contract ends at the end of the season? Zero chance. Focus on Stone’s deal in Vegas.
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1 nov. 2019 à 13 h 12
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
No lol Bogosian and Okposo not even close. They will want Dahlin at this point.


ThEy WiLl WaNt DaHlIn
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1 nov. 2019 à 13 h 13
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I do not want to give Cozens, even though we are dropping the Okposo contract.
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1 nov. 2019 à 13 h 14
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Agree, upgrade both picks, also take out Simmonds and the retained salary. If they want those, then Buf adds

If Okposo and Cozens cancel out, Bogo and a 2nd for Simmonds, then you’re getting Hall @ $3M for Samuelson and a 4th???
1 nov. 2019 à 13 h 27
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This is asinine. If the cost of moving okposo is more than a 2nd- he can make 6 million a year on the 4th line, sitting in the press box, or riding the bus in the ahl. If we had a late first i would listen, but we dont and in no way is a 7oa from 4 months ago the compensation for taking okposo. I dont see the sabres going for hall, i dont think they should be looking at top shelf rentals, and paying for an extended hall is a double whammy because you pay a premium to get him, then you pay for whatever extension he agrees to. If a cost controlled 7 or 8oa like mittelstadt or cozens is being included and we further may have to move reinhart to have the cap make sense, im totally out.
1 nov. 2019 à 13 h 34
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
No lol Bogosian and Okposo not even close. They will want Dahlin at this point.


Bahaha for Hall? NJ is going to end up with nothing if thats their demands
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1 nov. 2019 à 13 h 38
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I dont mind the trade to much, though Samuelsson and Cozens is a bit much. Okposo isnt that bad that im desperate to move him. Bogo's contract is expiring and hes currently LTIRd. You'd have to pick something other than Cozens. NJ isnt dealing from a position of power too, pretty much everyone knows Hall is on the block and teams only have to compete with each other to give their best offer, rather than meet NJ's demands
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1 nov. 2019 à 14 h 6
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
No lol Bogosian and Okposo not even close. They will want Dahlin at this point.


Dude you got to stop with the ridiculous takes.
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1 nov. 2019 à 15 h 20
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Quoting: Book_Hockey
Change the 2021 pick to a first rounder and the 2020 to a 3rd and I think it's a good trade. I know Cozens is a stud, but moving Okposo's contract requires a first round pick in itself.


Moving Okposo will cost multiple 1st rounders. Moving Marleau cost a 1st and he's much more productive and he only had 1 year left. Okposo's contract is also pretty much buyout proof given the salary structure.
1 nov. 2019 à 15 h 30
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I dont mind the trade to much, though Samuelsson and Cozens is a bit much. Okposo isnt that bad that im desperate to move him. Bogo's contract is expiring and hes currently LTIRd. You'd have to pick something other than Cozens. NJ isnt dealing from a position of power too, pretty much everyone knows Hall is on the block and teams only have to compete with each other to give their best offer, rather than meet NJ's demands


I added Bogosian, since with Hall and Simmonds I think it would have put BUF over the cap if Bogosian came off the LTIR.

Also, I agree, dealing Cozens and Samuelsson is a huge gamble/ a lot as both could turn into great players. But they way I was looking at it, I am a Devils fan by the way, is that it puts BUF into a more of a contender this season, but would most likely shorten their window overall.

The trade is basically NJ giving up on the next 2-3 years and BUF going all in for the next 3-4 years with Eichel, Hall, Skinner, Ristolainen, Reinhart, and Dahlin.
1 nov. 2019 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Bahaha for Hall? NJ is going to end up with nothing if thats their demands


Brings up a very good point. Everybody outside of Buffalo fans was sure Skinner was going to leave because Buffalo didn't make the playoffs!

So there is no chance Hall stays in New Jersey.
1 nov. 2019 à 15 h 36
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This is asinine. If the cost of moving okposo is more than a 2nd- he can make 6 million a year on the 4th line, sitting in the press box, or riding the bus in the ahl. If we had a late first i would listen, but we dont and in no way is a 7oa from 4 months ago the compensation for taking okposo. I dont see the sabres going for hall, i dont think they should be looking at top shelf rentals, and paying for an extended hall is a double whammy because you pay a premium to get him, then you pay for whatever extension he agrees to. If a cost controlled 7 or 8oa like mittelstadt or cozens is being included and we further may have to move reinhart to have the cap make sense, im totally out.


Yeah it is a steep price, but my thoughts behind it was you can use the cap spaced freed up by trading Okposo to re-sign Hall and not just have dead-cap space. It is pretty much Skinner 2.0 but more expensive.

As a Devils fan just trying to maximize Hall's value and alone with Backes in BOS and Alzner in MTL, Okposo contract is up their with the worst that are still moveable, unlike Suter's and Parise's.
1 nov. 2019 à 15 h 44
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Quoting: Brian2016
Moving Okposo will cost multiple 1st rounders. Moving Marleau cost a 1st and he's much more productive and he only had 1 year left. Okposo's contract is also pretty much buyout proof given the salary structure.


Correct and if Cozens and Samuelsson weren't already involved I would say add another one. I think Cozens is going to be a stud
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1 nov. 2019 à 16 h 14
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Quoting: Brian2016
Moving Okposo will cost multiple 1st rounders. Moving Marleau cost a 1st and he's much more productive and he only had 1 year left. Okposo's contract is also pretty much buyout proof given the salary structure.

Sabres like having Okposo, so if its costing them multiple first rounders they arent going to do it. They have no cap issues currently
1 nov. 2019 à 16 h 17
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Quoting: aedoran
Brings up a very good point. Everybody outside of Buffalo fans was sure Skinner was going to leave because Buffalo didn't make the playoffs!

So there is no chance Hall stays in New Jersey.
Skinner didnt resign until he met with Kreuger. If they kept status quo going into July, I think Skinner wouldnt be in Buffalo right now. Kreuger has done a lot behind the scenes to settle this locker room and its showing
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1 nov. 2019 à 16 h 21
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Dude you got to stop with the ridiculous takes.


Quoting: aedoran
Brings up a very good point. Everybody outside of Buffalo fans was sure Skinner was going to leave because Buffalo didn't make the playoffs!

So there is no chance Hall stays in New Jersey.


Quoting: F50marco
Dude you got to stop with the ridiculous takes.


Quoting: Shibbal18
Bahaha for Hall? NJ is going to end up with nothing if thats their demands


Quoting: wojme
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None of you caught the reason behind it you see how you guys offered Bogo and Okposo if that’s what the offer is the NJD is just gonna be that way but swap it over for Dahlin. Smh punchlines don’t work on here people take sh*t too seriously lol.
1 nov. 2019 à 16 h 27
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None of you caught the reason behind it you see how you guys offered Bogo and Okposo if that’s what the offer is the NJD is just gonna be that way but swap it over for Dahlin. Smh punchlines don’t work on here people take sh*t too seriously lol.


"You guys" OP is a devils fan
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1 nov. 2019 à 16 h 31
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Quoting: wojme
"You guys" OP is a devils fan


I’m Blues but ok
1 nov. 2019 à 16 h 37
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I’m Blues but ok


OP= original poster aka the one who started the thread
1 nov. 2019 à 17 h 0
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
you see how you guys offered Bogo and Okposo .


Quoting: wojme
"You guys" OP is a devils fan

Hes saying a sabre fan did not offer this trade, because you pinned it on 'us guys'.
1 nov. 2019 à 17 h 30
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Hes saying a sabre fan did not offer this trade, because you pinned it on 'us guys'.


Still meaning if that was offered by Buffalo which is the side that this trade is coming from on the ACGM NJ would definitely go ahead and make an offer that Buffalo couldn’t possibly offer as a package for Hall.
1 nov. 2019 à 17 h 46
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Still meaning if that was offered by Buffalo which is the side that this trade is coming from on the ACGM NJ would definitely go ahead and make an offer that Buffalo couldn’t possibly offer as a package for Hall.
yeah and that goes back to what i said, if those are NJ's demands theyll end up with nothing
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1 nov. 2019 à 17 h 49
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yeah and that goes back to what i said, if those are NJ's demands theyll end up with nothing


As if this were actually going to be an offer by Buffalo. Which I have my doubts with Skinner already On that side.
 
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