if Tavares wasnt signed

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Créé par: battadan

Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 16 août 2019

Publié: 16 août 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

this is from a non-leaf fan perspective:

i'm not saying it was the wrong decision. but what would this team look like if that never happened.

marner get the money he wants, and toronto get 2 extra years of control past Mathews and Nylander

Undo the original trades i believe were made mainly for cap reasons. i say the ottawa trade still happens.

sign Shattenkirk a little higher than tampa did.

more balance on all four lines. defence is better than i think it is currently, and on short term deals to make way for sandin, and liljegren next year. also a lot tougher of a team, with a lot of skill.

i tried to be as specific as possible, but this is more of a general idea of what could of been.

thoughts?

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell		7	11 000 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Gusev, NIkita		2	4 750 000 $

Transactions

TOR

NYI

Tavares, John

TOR

Kadri, Nazem
Rosén, Calle
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (TOR)

COL

Barrie, Tyson
Kerfoot, Alexander
Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (COL)

TOR

Shattenkirk, Kevin

TBL

TOR

Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (TBL)

TBL

Gauthier, Frédérik

Détails additionnels:

traded for a pick.. don't care what team

TOR

Jokiharju, Henri

BUF

Moore, Trevor
Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (TOR)

Détails additionnels:

trade with Chicago... this would of still been seem as a deal beofre seeing bowman get rinsed by buffalo

Détails additionnels:

sign as ufa

COL

TOR

Connolly, Brett

Détails additionnels:

sign as ufa

FLA

TOR

Ennis, Tyler

Détails additionnels:

sign ufa

OTT

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	80 884 699 $	0 $	425 000 $	615 301 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Gusev, NIkita 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $	Matthews, Auston 11 634 000 $11 634 000 $ C UFA - 5	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 5
Johnsson, Andreas 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Kadri, Nazem 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Marner, Mitchell 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ AD UFA - 6
Mikheyev, Ilya 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Spezza, Jason 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AD NTC UFA - 1
Ennis, Tyler 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Petan, Nicolas 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 2	Connolly, Brett 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Shattenkirk, Kevin 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Jokiharju, Henri 925 000 $925 000 $ (425 000 $$425K) DD RFA - 2	Hutchinson, Michael 700 000 $700 000 $ G UFA - 1
Rosén, Calle 750 000 $750 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Dermott, Travis 863 333 $863 333 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Ceci, Cody 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Horton, Nathan 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
		Clarkson, David 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1

16 août 2019 à 9 h 53

csick

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Trevor Moore is nowhere close to Alex Nylander

Lenny7, Barbs, wojme and 1 other person a aimé ceci.

16 août 2019 à 9 h 57

feds91stammer

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lol wut

16 août 2019 à 10 h 1

habs_fan123

habs_fan

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ok?

16 août 2019 à 10 h 6

battadan

Démarrer sujet

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ok general idea. would you rather have Tavares and the cap hell, or not and a more balanced team?

16 août 2019 à 10 h 8

Cheddamonkey37

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Lol

16 août 2019 à 10 h 10

Barbs

Biased Opinion

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I think the present team is better than what's listed above. Fans might be frustrated with Marner but regardless of how the contract negotiation ends up he's a huge asset to them. He either re-signs and likely puts up close to 100 points this season, is offer sheeted and the Leafs take 4 1st round picks as compensation and now have cap space to sign someone else or they trade him to address other issues (reads: blueline).

Having Tavares makes the Leafs better. He's not the reason Marner isn't signed at this point

16 août 2019 à 10 h 10

csick

KFTW

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Quoting: battadan

ok general idea. would you rather have Tavares and the cap hell, or not and a more balanced team?

I think I would've rather had a more balanced team. They could've kept Kadri, kept the 1st in the Marleau deal and used that 1st plus maybe a prospect to get their perfect top 4D. Then they could've signed a solid 3C for around 4 mill and still have some cap space

16 août 2019 à 10 h 10

Lenny7

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Quoting: csick

Trevor Moore is nowhere close to Alex Nylander

Correct! "I'm a non-Leaf fan, but I still overvalue their players!"

The biggest thing about un-doing the Tavares signing is that all of the sudden, you don't have John Tavares. That's a pretty significant loss.

Then, you take out Jokiharu, who they weren't getting for Trevor Moore, and all of the sudden you're running out a worse d-core than last year. Kevin Shattenkirk as a top pairing dman? I think you'd be better off throwing a couple of pylons out there to slow the opposition down (Or just sign Dion and have him lay out flat...that'll take away space from the oppositions offence!)

16 août 2019 à 10 h 14

DiehardRedWingsFan58

Banni

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What part of Shattenkirk not wanting to play in Canada didn't you understand?

16 août 2019 à 10 h 16

#10

clapperzzz11

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Marner probably didn't get 11m, because he probably not reach 90+ pts without Tavares. I think it's samething, Tavares didn't get this incredible year without playmaker Marner. He probably reach 70-80 pts

16 août 2019 à 10 h 22

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palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

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What's your logic that Shatternkirk signs with the Leafs instead of Tampa. Rather have Tavares than the Gusev/Connelly combo.

Don't know your logic when you say the Leafs are in cap hell.

16 août 2019 à 10 h 53

#12

johnston3504

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Quoting: battadan

ok general idea. would you rather have Tavares and the cap hell, or not and a more balanced team?

balanced team? we have a better team now than we do with what you put together. this team probably wouldnt make the playoffs.

16 août 2019 à 11 h 6

#13

Hedman77

Log off the internet

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Moore for jokiharju wtf

16 août 2019 à 11 h 10

#14

Gauss

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I would rather have Tavares. Tavares makes Marner better and Marner makes Tavares better (chemistry). If the leafs did not have Tavares then I think Marner would have had 15-20 points less last season and worth a couple million less AAV. I believe Marner will sign by camp and it will be in the range of 9.5-10mil for 6 years. It is in Marners best interest to keep playing with Tavares as they make each other better and his next contract will be bigger. Also being in Toronto the endorsement money he will get will be enormous.

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