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SJ - TOR Blockbuster Trade - Marner for Labanc Package

Créé par: CheechYou
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 19 juill. 2019
Publié: 19 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
For TOR:

Labanc is basically a poor man's Marner and only going to get better. He's only on the best deal in the NHL (maybe in history https://www.fearthefin.com/2019/7/12/20691551/2019-nhl-free-agency-kevin-labanc-san-jose-sharks-doug-wilson-salary-cap).

Chmelevksy is in SJ's top-6 and a young 20yr old prospect with tremendous upside. Arguably SJ's best prospect.

Gregor is a young prospect with 3rd line center upside. This trade makes sense because SJ has a logjam of young LHed centers poised to claim roster spots, and most of them are Russian, so Gregor's the odd Canadien dman out.

Dillon is a supremely underrated defenseman going back the other way. His deal expires next season, so the young guns can take over his spot since he's set to get paid, and TOR can use their extra cash saved with this Marner deal to make a mid-season trade with MINN for Spurgeon and re-sign him long-term.

Dell is an upgrade over Hutchinson as an expiring UFA backup for Freddie. He's poised for a bounce-back season in his 20-odd games for TOR. Mostly a cap-casualty for SJ.
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  1. Spurgeon, Jared (1 556 250 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
30% salary retained
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2281 500 000 $78 572 615 $0 $247 500 $2 927 385 $
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778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
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11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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1 635 000 $1 635 000 $
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3 631 250 $3 631 250 $
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675 000 $675 000 $
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
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UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
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UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
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19 juill. 2019 à 16 h 40
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Dubas couldn't make the Marner deal better, so he made the Marlies better.
19 juill. 2019 à 16 h 49
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Dell was worse than Sparks last year. Think the Leafs prefer the four first rounders.
19 juill. 2019 à 16 h 49
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It's just poor value for Toronto. If Marner is moved, an impact, young, #1 D would likely be in the package. If not, then a young forward of high quality +.

Don't see a deal to be made between these two teams, but you should be including your best trade chips. If I don't see Meier/Couture it's an easy no.
19 juill. 2019 à 16 h 49
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Labanc is not a poor man's Marner.

They're just in different tiers of players. Do the above package with Meier instead of Labanc and it's more reasonable.

Also a prospect with third line upside should carry little to no value
19 juill. 2019 à 16 h 50
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Also hard pass on the Minni trade
19 juill. 2019 à 17 h 15
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Quoting: BCAPP
Labanc is not a poor man's Marner.

They're just in different tiers of players. Do the above package with Meier instead of Labanc and it's more reasonable.

Also a prospect with third line upside should carry little to no value


That’s a worse trade for San Jose. I’d rather Meier than marner in the end. Meier has a different game, continues improving and has size, additionally he seems committed to winning and signing fair deals, not 10+ mil deal that isn’t worth marner in the end I think unless he consistently puts up 80-100+
19 juill. 2019 à 17 h 16
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Lebanc ,Chemelvski and the 1st are the only base pieces with any value in a deal for an Elite top line Center Prospect .

if you were trading for a lesser player maybe dillon ,dell and gregor have such low value in this situation its not worth it as you'd get more return for them all individually .

Lebanc , Chemelvski , Dahlen , 2021 1st , 2022 1st and a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if Marner signs over 5 years

SJS gets an Elite Center Prospect giving up middle 6 players, 2 first's and a 2nd unless Marner gets a max term deal then an additional 1st .

TML has all the leverage , they'll trade Nylander at a loss long before they give away Marner
i think bringing Kerfoot in was part of the transition and that Nylander will be gone by season opener .
if i was SJS that's who i'd be targeting as Nylander fits your immediate needs or much less cost
19 juill. 2019 à 21 h 11
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That’s a worse trade for San Jose. I’d rather Meier than marner in the end. Meier has a different game, continues improving and has size, additionally he seems committed to winning and signing fair deals, not 10+ mil deal that isn’t worth marner in the end I think unless he consistently puts up 80-100+


Do you realize how rare it is for players to put up consistently 80-100 points? Here is a list of players who have put up more than 80 points 5 or more times in the last 10 years (http://hkref.com/tiny/bbtTz)

Crosby (7), Ovechkin (5), Stamkos (5). End list. (Giroux, Kane, Kessel and Tavares have done it 4 times).

I doubt he consistently puts up 80-100 points because almost nobody does.
19 juill. 2019 à 21 h 13
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Lebanc ,Chemelvski and the 1st are the only base pieces with any value in a deal for an Elite top line Center Prospect .

if you were trading for a lesser player maybe dillon ,dell and gregor have such low value in this situation its not worth it as you'd get more return for them all individually .

Lebanc , Chemelvski , Dahlen , 2021 1st , 2022 1st and a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if Marner signs over 5 years

SJS gets an Elite Center Prospect giving up middle 6 players, 2 first's and a 2nd unless Marner gets a max term deal then an additional 1st .

TML has all the leverage , they'll trade Nylander at a loss long before they give away Marner
i think bringing Kerfoot in was part of the transition and that Nylander will be gone by season opener .
if i was SJS that's who i'd be targeting as Nylander fits your immediate needs or much less cost


Who is an elite center prospect? Marner is not a center or a prospect.

And Kerfoot, a center, has nothing to do with Nylander, a winger...Kerfoot is Kadri's replacement, which, again, has nothing to do with Nylander.
 
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