Yeah signing longterm extension for defensively unreliable, injury plagued defenceman solves everything. Toronto is not right place for EK

That's the best Marner trade I've seen in a long time, but given the $10M price tag that goes with him, I think the ask for #4OA might be just a little too much for Sakic to swallow. If you changed it to Jost and Makar for Marner, Colorado would keep the pick and be able to better stagger its prospect flow.

Don't blow your cap on Karlsson. There are easier short-term solutions while you wait for Makar to emerge.

I like the Makar-Marner trade though. I think the value is clearly there and I would accept if I was a Leafs fan.

Yeah it is smart.
I would call for heiskanen-marner
Or makar-marner

Wait. Makar+4th overall for Marner?

Way too much imo. Makar is a special case. I don't see any reason why COL would accept this.

As a neutral party here. I see TOR fans jumping on this trade. I definitely want to hear form AVE's fans. I can't claim to have watched Makar play more than 1 game out of in 8 playoff games (been watching other series tbh BUT I did watch all the frozen four...so I have seen him play a bit), but one would think it would take a little time for him to adjust....NOPE! From everything I caught so far...he's freakin stud. and Stud Dmen mean more than stud wingers. AND you want the #4 OA? We should all be able to appreciate the cap damage COL would take on. Makar and the #4OA on ELCs ($2M) or an $11M Marner? I'd take Makar and the #4OA all day. To me, it really isn't that close a call either considering what that extra $7M-$9M can bring. Makar/Cozens/...IDK maybe not quite Panarin, but you get the drift...it's $7M - $9M...spend it how you want.

@coga16 @moli92 your thoughts please?

I do think the value is there. But Makar and Heiskanen just broke out, the buzz and excitement hasn't had a chance to wear off yet. D o you think either of those teams would make that trade? If it were my decision I have no idea what I'd do.

Laughable. Marner is an awesome talent, but Makar is a very special player as well, a RHS DMan who is doing incredible things at 20 years old in the Stanley Cup playoffs, no doubt in my mind a Number 1 Dman in this league.

IF this leaf fans think they can get possible their Top Pairing for a decade in Marner and Byram at 4 for Marner and his 11m price tag, he is the most delusional poster in this sites history

Makar is as untouchable as the come, Avs laugh and hang up. What is Marner going to do, take away Mikko RW top minutes, PP time, etc, You think Makar and the 4th value is there...hahah leaf fans are so delusional

You're significantly underpaying Johnsson, Kapanen, and Stralman in order to make this work. Not very realistic. EK doesn't make much sense for this team, either.

As soon as Makar name is whispered they hang up the phone and laugh. Good deal for Marner? So you are going to make 1 of the 2 in Mikko or Marner have decreased top minutes at RW, on the PP, etc.
Its one of the worst possible destinations and trades, fit is bad, too much cap hit for someone to have to have decreased time in Mikko or Marner, and give up Avs future 1D in Makar. This is a leafs homer trade to a tee

First, I'm habs fan. No chance I'd be cheering for the Leafs lol ! I'm just saying the value is fair (or little overpay by Av's, its debatable). I was actually expecting a Leafs fan to respond that Marner is worth way more than Makar, which I believe is wrong. Makar for Marner would make sense for leafs, as they need D and cap space now badly. Marner to Av's doesn't make that much sense, you're right. But if Sakic thinks he has a shot to the cup over the next 3-4 years, that wouldn't be stupid.

Makar would have more of a significant impact to a cup window in the next 3-4 years than Marner, the kids a stud already, its incredible to watch him play. Marner is a hell of a player, but sorry you arent going to win a cup having another 10m+ RW vs a stud kid on his ELC

Sorry, but why would Marner see less time? Compher and Andrighetto would be the guys seeing a lot less ice time.MacKinnon would play C full time and Marner and Rantanen would either play together or create a fearsome 1-2 punch on the RW, or one of them could play off wing with MacKinnon and drive opponents nuts.

As for Makar, there are no doubts he'll be a very good Dman in the NHL. With Barrie, Zadorov and Girard, and with Timmins on the way, The Avs are pretty stacked out back. But Marner's not chopped liver. He is one of the top 10 forwards in the league.

I'm no Leafs homer but I can appreciate a good hockey trade. You might not want to make it. That's fine. But it's not a bad move for either team.

bc Mikko is the Top RW, are you asking one of them to play LW to take time away from Landy? You arent goign to win having 2 RW making 10m+. Its a dumb trade that benefits the Leafs, really doesnt do anything for the Avs. Barrie is a soon to be UFA who will make big bucks. So add Marner and now you cant afford Barrie. this isnt rocket science with the Cap

My take is pretty much the same as yours.

Marner is a proven unbelievable player

Makar is less proven but is still likely to be an unbelievable player (and has 2 years of ELC remaining, which is very important)

I would take Makar + 4th overall over Marner 100 times out of 100. the value is just too far off. I think Makar's ELC years are very important since it could mean the difference between adding another star player via UFA or not (due to extra cap space)

exactly, and then what happens when you have both Marner and Mikko...someone is moved to the LW, I don't think there is ever a team that has been competitive if they have 2 10m+ RWers on a roster. That just seems dumb