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Getting Parayko

Créé par: Dmh1055
Équipe: 2018-19 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 14 févr. 2019
Publié: 14 févr. 2019
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14 févr. 2019 à 11 h 39
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Blues automatically say no.
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14 févr. 2019 à 11 h 43
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Blues automatically say no.


Why? Nugent Hopkins is by far the best player in this trade.
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14 févr. 2019 à 11 h 47
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Why? Nugent Hopkins is by far the best player in this trade.


You are stupid. Parayko is a top 5 defensive defenseman, and 2 RNH he is a 2C. Parayko is a #1 D-man. Schenn is a 2C. and Lucic is a cap dump. You are high or you really love EA.
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14 févr. 2019 à 11 h 48
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
You are stupid. Parayko is a top 5 defensive defenseman, and 2 RNH he is a 2C. Parayko is a #1 D-man. Schenn is a 2C. and Lucic is a cap dump. You are high or you really love EA.


Please no name calling, you correct but no name calling.
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14 févr. 2019 à 11 h 48
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RNH and Lucic at 4.8M a year is not remotely worth Parayko or Schenn by themselves. You're not going to move the Lucic contract unless you pay someone to take it.
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14 févr. 2019 à 11 h 49
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Please no name calling, you correct but no name calling.


That makes me mad when people don't know what they are talking about...It's not just for the Blues it's for any NHL team.
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14 févr. 2019 à 11 h 54
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
That makes me mad when people don't know what they are talking about...It's not just for the Blues it's for any NHL team.


I agree, but no name calling, You are correct that is a terrible trade. Not much difference between Schenn and RNH so that leaves Lucic for Parayko. This is absolutely silly.
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14 févr. 2019 à 11 h 58
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Not even sure this is supposed to be real.
14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 2
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I just love how cap crunched Toronto takes on Talbot because WTF why not?
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14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 3
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
You are stupid. Parayko is a top 5 defensive defenseman, and 2 RNH he is a 2C. Parayko is a #1 D-man. Schenn is a 2C. and Lucic is a cap dump. You are high or you really love EA.


If Nugent Hopkins is only a #2 center and he's likely better or at the very least equal to the Blues current #1 center then Brayden Schenn isn't a #2. Based on the 2nd half of last year and how this year is going Schenn hasn't been very good at all for what appears to be about 1.5 seasons. He's likely a better wing than a center anyway.

Parayko is a #2 on his own team. He's not a top 5 defensive defenseman. And even if that's true it's not a very valuable commodity since the Blues are at best mediocre or sub-mediocre team. Blues fans maintain a belief than Parayko is the next Pronger and it's totally unfounded. He's a good defenseman that has an okay offensive upside but he'll never be great.
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14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 9
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If Nugent Hopkins is only a #2 center and he's likely better or at the very least equal to the Blues current #1 center then Brayden Schenn isn't a #2. Based on the 2nd half of last year and how this year is going Schenn hasn't been very good at all for what appears to be about 1.5 seasons. He's likely a better wing than a center anyway.

Parayko is a #2 on his own team. He's not a top 5 defensive defenseman. And even if that's true it's not a very valuable commodity since the Blues are at best mediocre or sub-mediocre team. Blues fans maintain a belief than Parayko is the next Pronger and it's totally unfounded. He's a good defenseman that has an okay offensive upside but he'll never be great.


1 Schenn is playing LW, 2 Parayko is playing 2nd line to equalize he has pietrangelo 9th in Norris ahead of him. Just because he isn't playing top line doesn't mean he isn't. Either watch hockey or don't make yourself look stupid like Edmonton already is I'm done with this stupid conversation.
14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 14
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If Nugent Hopkins is only a #2 center and he's likely better or at the very least equal to the Blues current #1 center then Brayden Schenn isn't a #2. Based on the 2nd half of last year and how this year is going Schenn hasn't been very good at all for what appears to be about 1.5 seasons. He's likely a better wing than a center anyway.

Parayko is a #2 on his own team. He's not a top 5 defensive defenseman. And even if that's true it's not a very valuable commodity since the Blues are at best mediocre or sub-mediocre team. Blues fans maintain a belief than Parayko is the next Pronger and it's totally unfounded. He's a good defenseman that has an okay offensive upside but he'll never be great.


Also Ryan O'Reilly definitely better than RNH. Parayko you can see by where you put him on your team you really don't know about hockey when you are putting a RHD on the left side of play. Parayko>Larsson. If you don't watch hockey just tell us all we won't judge.
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14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 16
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I agree, but no name calling, You are correct that is a terrible trade. Not much difference between Schenn and RNH so that leaves Lucic for Parayko. This is absolutely silly.
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Career stats are always a good comparable. Brayden Schenn is 2 years older. He started his NHL career with the Flyers and was able to produce moderately well on the wing and even more so once he was given power play time. Nugent Hopkins has been asked to be a shutdown center since McDavid came and has performed well in the role and still out produces Schenn. Schenn did well for half a season for the Blues when Schwartz and Tarasenko were healthy and on his wings. It's very important to note Brayden Schenn's career production mostly came on the wing.
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14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 20
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Also Ryan O'Reilly definitely better than RNH. Parayko you can see by where you put him on your team you really don't know about hockey when you are putting a RHD on the left side of play. Parayko>Larsson. If you don't watch hockey just tell us all we won't judge.


I didn't realize I was making perfect D Pairs for Edmonton that were set in stone. This is Armchair GM not Armchair coach. D pair chemistry and partners would need to be figured out and sampled with.
14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 22
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1 Schenn is playing LW, 2 Parayko is playing 2nd line to equalize he has pietrangelo 9th in Norris ahead of him. Just because he isn't playing top line doesn't mean he isn't. Either watch hockey or don't make yourself look stupid like Edmonton already is I'm done with this stupid conversation.


You're a very combative Blues homer. You comment on all Blues related pages and pretty much hate every trade that involves the Blues giving up something of value. If they were so good maybe they would have won a cup before.
14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 23
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I just love how cap crunched Toronto takes on Talbot because WTF why not?


He's a UFA and they're not cap crunched this season.
14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 24
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You're a very combative Blues homer. You comment on all Blues related pages and pretty much hate every trade that involves the Blues giving up something of value. If they were so good maybe they would have won a cup before.


I want you to know, that I am very up for giving Pietrangelo up for a good price if you haven't seen those. You are what they call a person who strongly believes in EA Sports Trading Value system.
14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 24
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I didn't realize I was making perfect D Pairs for Edmonton that were set in stone. This is Armchair GM not Armchair coach. D pair chemistry and partners would need to be figured out and sampled with.


So to be clear, you're going to defend this trade as being fair? You're telling me that you think Parayko is less valuable than Nuge and that the gap between them is the same as the gap between Schenn and Lucic? You think the Blues would trade Parayko? And the Oilers would trade Nuge? And Lucic can be traded for value? This all just seems like trolling for angry Blues fans (hint: there's only one of them wink)
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14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 24
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He's a UFA and they're not cap crunched this season.


LOL you are really dumb. They are in a cap crunch right now.
14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 25
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You're a very combative Blues homer. You comment on all Blues related pages and pretty much hate every trade that involves the Blues giving up something of value. If they were so good maybe they would have won a cup before.


I have strong opinions, but trolling is not in the books.
14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 27
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I want you to know, that I am very up for giving Pietrangelo up for a good price if you haven't seen those. You are what they call a person who strongly believes in EA Sports Trading Value system.


I disagree...I've tried trading for Parayko in EA and it's not easy there either. lol
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14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 31
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Lucic literally had negative value...
14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 32
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I disagree...I've tried trading for Parayko in EA and it's not easy there either. lol


It's easy on Easy Level Trading AI lol.
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14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 44
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So to be clear, you're going to defend this trade as being fair? You're telling me that you think Parayko is less valuable than Nuge and that the gap between them is the same as the gap between Schenn and Lucic? You think the Blues would trade Parayko? And the Oilers would trade Nuge? And Lucic can be traded for value? This all just seems like trolling for angry Blues fans (hint: there's only one of them wink)


Lucic is not valueless or negative value. Edmonton is eating some of his contract. The Blues could offload his contract at $4.8 or eat another portion themselves as well. The point was they are acquiring Nugent Hopkins.

Brayden Schenn is being massively overrated, he's signed for $5 million which is probably okay for a player like him but he's only signed for 1 more season. So while he does have talent, he's likely going to get overpaid going after the 19-20 season bringing his overall value down. Edmonton will likely have him walk as will the Blues after 1 more season.

So basically Edmonton traded Nugent Hopkins for Parayko plus the rental of Brayden Schenn for 1 and third seasons and the unloading of a portion of Lucic's contract. It's a lot. But the price for Nugent Hopkins is high. First line level centers are not cheap. How many teams in the league don't even really have a #1 center? St. Louis would have the best #1 #2 center combination they would have had in a very long time.

Everyone has comments about how expensive defenseman are in trades. Centers are just as high of a premium if not higher. There's not many being traded ever.
14 févr. 2019 à 12 h 52
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
LOL you are really dumb. They are in a cap crunch right now.


Let's do some math shall we,

Cap friendly projects the leafs to have $4,319,893 in cap space. Talbot's contract after retention (Edmonton is retaining $1.5 million) is $2,666,667. That would mean the Leafs would still have $1,653,226 in cap space. They would also have another roster move that would add to that cap space. That's not really a cap crunch at trade deadline time.
 
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