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Créé par: Johnny_G13

Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 9 févr. 2019

Publié: 9 févr. 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

BEFORE all you leafs fans jump on me about how Marleau cannot be moved due to his NMC, and how "his contract is set up to prevent exactly this from happening" yada yada.. This, in my view, is the only way Dubas can follow through on what he said about not trading Nylander and be able to sign Marner to what he will get on an extended deal. No two ways about it, unless he's willing to deal Johnsson and Kapanen away to keep Marleau around for the ONE year remaining on his deal, it just doesn't make sense to me. So I think he has to and will find a way to convince Marleau to waive his clause, no matter how difficult that may be, 'cause it's the only way to keep the band together, at least in my opinion.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Johnsson, Andreas	2	2 250 000 $
Marner, Mitchell	7	10 375 000 $
Kapanen, Kasperi	2	2 585 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Strålman, Anton	3	3 350 000 $
McQuaid, Adam	2	850 000 $
Krüger, Marcus	2	850 000 $
Kinkaid, Keith	2	1 325 000 $

Transactions

TOR

Rathgeb, Yannick
Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (NYI)

NYI

Marleau, Patrick

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	83 487 199 $	0 $	132 500 $	12 801 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell 10 375 000 $10 375 000 $ AD UFA - 6
Johnsson, Andreas 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston 11 634 000 $11 634 000 $ C UFA - 5	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 5
Brown, Connor 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Kapanen, Kasperi 2 585 000 $2 585 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Gauthier, Frédérik 675 000 $675 000 $ C UFA - 1		Moore, Trevor 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Marchment, Mason 767 500 $767 500 $ (132 500 $$132K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Krüger, Marcus 850 000 $850 000 $ C UFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Strålman, Anton 3 350 000 $3 350 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Zaitsev, Nikita 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 5
Dermott, Travis 863 333 $863 333 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	McQuaid, Adam 850 000 $850 000 $ DD UFA	Kinkaid, Keith 1 325 000 $1 325 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Holl, Justin 675 000 $675 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Horton, Nathan 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1

9 févr. 2019 à 18 h 27

Shylo_Moxii

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No matter what he won't. Marleau has the best chance at a cup on Toronto therefore he is going to want to stay on Toronto.

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9 févr. 2019 à 18 h 30

Johnny_G13

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

No matter what he won't. Marleau has the best chance at a cup on Toronto therefore he is going to want to stay on Toronto.

Well I think this is just one potential way that it could play out, I don't think it's impossible.

9 févr. 2019 à 18 h 30

Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: Zeerak

Well I think this is just one potential way that it could play out, I don't think it's impossible.

you have 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance he actually says yes.

9 févr. 2019 à 18 h 32

Johnny_G13

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

you have 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance he actually says yes.

So you're saying there's a chance?

9 févr. 2019 à 18 h 35

Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: Zeerak

So you're saying there's a chance?

Yeah you trying go around with those odds.

9 févr. 2019 à 18 h 44

KingsLover

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Kapanen is not signing for that "little" [way more than I'll never earn :'( ] of a cap hit

9 févr. 2019 à 18 h 44

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

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Somehow you've convinced yourself that Marleau's written NMC means nothing, but a silly press conference promise has meaning. As indicated by other above, Marleau isn't moving if he remains playing. The other reason is other teams don't want his 6.25m cap hit. Now a retired Marleau makes his cap hit an easy trade to a team with cap space.

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9 févr. 2019 à 19 h 58

Subbanator7667

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Even if Marleau decided to wiace his NMC Toronto would have to send more then a 4th wkth him to get a team to take his contract. Its 6.25 million that no team will take on for free

9 févr. 2019 à 20 h 3

Goulet

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No doubt they'll have to get creative but Marleau was brought in for a reason and with 4 points in his last 5 games playing with Matthews, moving him is a last resort.

Zaitsev or Brown or Hyman or Kadri or a combo of these players gets moved, not Marleau.

12 févr. 2019 à 0 h 42

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Johnny_G13

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Quoting: palhal

I haven't convinced myself of anything of the sort, I clearly said in the description that this is the only way he CAN deliver on that promise and keep his core together considering the payday Marner will inevitably get. You guys are the ones who've convinced yourself that you know 100% without doubt that Marleau won't waive his NMC come hell or high water, as if it's as certain as death and taxes. All I'm saying is that it's a possibility that Dubas surely will look to explore.

13 févr. 2019 à 12 h 31

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palhal

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Quoting: Zeerak

If a player is traded, then he's not part of the core is he? I've convinced myself that Marleau is not going to traded to a non contender. And I really doubt if he would want to uproot his family again for one more season to anywhere but San Jose. And contenders don't have cap space or the desire to acquire a 6.25m non performer.

22 juin 2019 à 14 h 10

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Johnny_G13

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

No matter what he won't. Marleau has the best chance at a cup on Toronto therefore he is going to want to stay on Toronto.

"No matter what he won't." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

22 juin 2019 à 14 h 14

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Johnny_G13

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Quoting: palhal

"Marleau isn't moving if he remains playing." What'd I say? IT had to be done, and it was. This is a lesson for y'all who kept saying it'll NEVER happen, not everything is black and white, there's other factors that can be at play. Next time keep an open mind instead of thinking you know everything.

22 juin 2019 à 14 h 16

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Johnny_G13

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

you have 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance he actually says yes.

WHAT I SAY? Those odds worked out rather nicely for me eh? Amazing how you can be so confident and so tremendously wrong at the same time.

22 juin 2019 à 15 h 9

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Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: Zeerak

"No matter what he won't." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

cool hahaha nothing like an immature f*ck thinking he is so cool because he got the first thing right in his whole 8 year old life. Nothing like it well done.

22 juin 2019 à 20 h 33

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Johnny_G13

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

cool hahaha nothing like an immature f*ck thinking he is so cool because he got the first thing right in his whole 8 year old life. Nothing like it well done.

Only thing that's immature is thinking you're right no matter what somebody else says, take the L and don't be a salty little b*tch.

22 juin 2019 à 20 h 51

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Juice

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Don't be a d*ck.

It was well documented that the deal breaker for Marleau choosing Toronto over re-signing in San Jose was the 3rd year of the contract. Everything over the past 2 years (including his goodbye tweet) shows how much he enjoyed it here. Him asking to get traded came out of left field. It's great that he wanted to leave...but there was't any indication he was willing to move his family to Toronto and then bail after 2 years.

None of the scenarios of trading Marleau on this board EVER made sense unless Marleau was willing to waive his NTC...something that didn't seem reasonable to assume until a couple weeks ago.

You can step off your high horse now.

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23 juin 2019 à 15 h 21

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Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: Zeerak

Only thing that's immature is thinking you're right no matter what somebody else says, take the L and don't be a salty little b*tch.

don't be salty. Only immature one, is 1 who thinks he has the right to be a d*ck because he was right for the first time in his life. maybe that's why you only have 68 likes because no one really cares what you have to say cuz you are a d*ck. Sure I take the L, I'm not an analyst. But you have to take the L because you said NEW YORK ISLANDERS. So um good luck their bud. Nice knowing you but you are going on my d*ckweed list or the ignore list.

28 juin 2019 à 21 h 17

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Johnny_G13

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Quoting: Juice

The only thing that matters here is that he was traded, and when I looked at the cap situation I predicted that this was the only way about 6 months ago, so it doesn't matter how out of left field the trade was, every leaf fans shat on that idea whenever I even began to mention it. So yeah, when it finally happened I definitely wanted to rub it in a bit to people like this guy who ridiculed me for even suggesting it, so sue me.

28 juin 2019 à 21 h 20

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Johnny_G13

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

Nah my dude, I only have 68 likes cuz unlike no life losers like you I only come on here every once in a while. And hey, you'd be doing me a favour by blocking me, then I won't have to have my IQ lowered anymore by reading your comments. Best of luck to ya.

29 juin 2019 à 16 h 29

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Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: Johnny_G13

It's not our fault that you play Chel all day because you can't do anything good with your life.

29 juin 2019 à 21 h 0

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Juice

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Quoting: Johnny_G13

sure bud...the only way was to hope that Marleau would request a trade out or retire and have his contract traded. Simply saying they needed to trade him without acknolwledging his NTC and the likelihood of him waiving it is far from an accurate prediction. This wasn't Dubas convincing him to waive it as your original post suggested...

30 juin 2019 à 20 h 55

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Johnny_G13

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Quoting: Juice

You are actually an idiot, how do you even dress yourself in the morning? Obviously Dubas convinced him to waive because that was the ONLY WAY to keep Nylander and co around with Marner's impending contract, instead of keeping 1 year of Marleau at 6.25. That's why I predicted it, but you're clearly not comprehending that. Why would Marleau request a trade out of this situation? Clearly he liked it in Toronto and just did the leafs a favour by waiving. Hopefully not all leaf fans are meatheads like you.

1 juill. 2019 à 12 h 40

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Juice

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Quoting: Johnny_G13

How does Dubas like his coffee? Do me a favour and say hi to him for me next time you see him. Shut your yip, kid. No one is buying your B.S.

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