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Créé par: rangers300
Équipe: 2018-19 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 17 janv. 2019
Publié: 17 janv. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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guys this is my first year of getting into trades and drafts and im trying enough with the comments of this is bad just stop and tell me what im not doing right and help me
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UFAANSCAP HIT
23 450 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (LAK)
LAK
2.
NYR
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (VAN)
3.
NYR
  1. Ho-Sang, Joshua
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
4.
NYR
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
BUF
  1. Shattenkirk, Kevin
  2. Skjei, Brady
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
5.
6.
NYR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (EDM)
MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
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2020
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2021
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2279 500 000 $66 956 942 $0 $2 895 000 $12 543 058 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 175 000 $5 175 000 $
C
UFA - 1
3 450 000 $3 450 000 $
AD
UFA
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 275 000 $2 275 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
792 500 $792 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance100 000 $$100K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
650 000 $650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
UFA - 1

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17 janv. 2019 à 18 h 17
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First don't read posts from your fellow Ranger fans, it may elevate the value of your Ranger playerssmile
What's with that Zuccharello trade. Kings aren't going to risk a top 5 pick for THAT package. Zuccharello MIGHT have value to team that is a Cup contender....but no one else. (Yes I know you added other players in your original trade.
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17 janv. 2019 à 18 h 18
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Just keep following the league, see trends, and you'll get it bud.
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17 janv. 2019 à 18 h 21
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The Buffalo trade has me weak
17 janv. 2019 à 18 h 22
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Tip one: when making a trade, underrate your own players and overate everyone else's as a starting point, then tweak from there. Much easier then doing it the other way around.
Tip two: make sure the players/picks/prospects you give up would actually have value to the receiving team. For example, It would be tough to convince Toronto to take a 2C, even though they may be very good.
Tip three: Make sure the players/picks/prospects are guys the other team is actually willing to give up for the return. It would be tough to convince Toronto to move Marner, no matter the return as an example.
Tip four: If you find yourself trading a bunch of mid round picks (3-7) in one trade; chances are it is a chel trade, so don' do it. Ex: Dont: two 2nds, three 3rds and a B prospect. Do: 1st, 2nd, B+ prospect
Tip five: Expect a 1 star rating and for everyone else to say "typical Leafs fan" if they are involved in any way, no matter how small.
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17 janv. 2019 à 18 h 22
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And what is the Joel ward signing
17 janv. 2019 à 18 h 27
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Quoting: Random2152
Tip one: when making a trade, underrate your own players and overate everyone else's as a starting point, then tweak from there. Much easier then doing it the other way around.
Tip two: make sure the players/picks/prospects you give up would actually have value to the receiving team. For example, It would be tough to convince Toronto to take a 2C, even though they may be very good.
Tip three: Make sure the players/picks/prospects are guys the other team is actually willing to give up for the return. It would be tough to convince Toronto to move Marner, no matter the return as an example.
Tip four: If you find yourself trading a bunch of mid round picks (3-7) in one trade; chances are it is a chel trade, so don' do it. Ex: Dont: two 2nds, three 3rds and a B prospect. Do: 1st, 2nd, B+ prospect
Tip five: Expect a 1 star rating and for everyone else to say "typical Leafs fan" if they are involved in any way, no matter how small.


you seem to know a lot about this. I appreciate the tips. would ANY of these trades go through or are they close
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17 janv. 2019 à 18 h 29
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Stop right now. Watch hockey first a couple years before trying to make trades. Joel Ward’s not worth 1M and Scandella worth a 3rd pick maximum
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17 janv. 2019 à 18 h 30
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And what is the Joel ward signing


I just didn't want to call anyone up
17 janv. 2019 à 18 h 31
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Stop right now. Watch hockey first a couple years before trying to make trades. Joel Ward’s not worth 1M and Scandella worth a 3rd pick maximum


ive watched plenty of hockey but I don't really go out side of the rangers I basically go buy how much ive heard of them and nhl game ratings.....so in nicer terms your saying to study other teams
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17 janv. 2019 à 18 h 37
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Stop right now. Watch hockey first a couple years before trying to make trades. Joel Ward’s not worth 1M and Scandella worth a 3rd pick maximum


giving you a bit more info I watched minor league sense I was 7 and was into nhl starting '13 but only got into actually knowing the players in late '17 and '18 I got into trades and the draft....too soon?
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17 janv. 2019 à 18 h 58
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understand that other teams have the same 79.5m cap
trading ntc or nmc may be difficult or even impossible
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17 janv. 2019 à 19 h 6
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Quoting: rangers300
giving you a bit more info I watched minor league sense I was 7 and was into nhl starting '13 but only got into actually knowing the players in late '17 and '18 I got into trades and the draft....too soon?


Idk how that gets you here tbh, this is all wacked out. What is that tatar trade, and scandella? dude buy glasses
17 janv. 2019 à 19 h 17
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no
17 janv. 2019 à 20 h 41
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Quoting: rangers300
giving you a bit more info I watched minor league sense I was 7 and was into nhl starting '13 but only got into actually knowing the players in late '17 and '18 I got into trades and the draft....too soon?


Of course not too soon. Absolutely nothing wrong with your approach....plus you’re inviting constructive feedback so you can learn....that’s a lot more than I can say for a lot of posters on here.

Keep inviting comments, you’ll find out soon enough who’s just on here to troll and who you can get good conversations out of.

My 2 cents:
1. Less is more sometimes. You don’t often see a team pull off more than 3 deals in a season so if you post higher than suggested 4 trades it looks a bit too dramatic or unrealistic.

2. Can put either the names of the players you’re trading for or the teams you’re trading with in your team name. That way fans of those players/teams are more likely to check out your deals and give their comments.

3. Keep doing what you’re doing...combined with #2 above, if you invite feedback and ask fans from those teams to comment on value, you can often get a great conversation going.

4. Ignore the trolls and brush off the know-it-all’s. Unless we’re talking rules or CBA, nobody can tell you they’re right and you’re wrong. We’re all pretty much here to share opinions

Have fun and keep at it.

As for your trades here:
- zucc and Namestnikov can likely land you the first and maybe a bit more. But not from LAK unless it’s the offseason or the pick is protected.

- if you like ho-sang, maybe one of the pieces from the trade above can be used to get him from the island

- I don’t see Montreal looking to be sellers yet so not sure they’d look to deal Tatar for parts

- Shattenkirk might be too risky an add for a team on the upswing like Buffalo but the value of the trade isn’t terrible
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18 janv. 2019 à 14 h 38
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Quoting: Random2152
Tip one: when making a trade, underrate your own players and overate everyone else's as a starting point, then tweak from there. Much easier then doing it the other way around.
Tip two: make sure the players/picks/prospects you give up would actually have value to the receiving team. For example, It would be tough to convince Toronto to take a 2C, even though they may be very good.
Tip three: Make sure the players/picks/prospects are guys the other team is actually willing to give up for the return. It would be tough to convince Toronto to move Marner, no matter the return as an example.
Tip four: If you find yourself trading a bunch of mid round picks (3-7) in one trade; chances are it is a chel trade, so don' do it. Ex: Dont: two 2nds, three 3rds and a B prospect. Do: 1st, 2nd, B+ prospect
Tip five: Expect a 1 star rating and for everyone else to say "typical Leafs fan" if they are involved in any way, no matter how small.

Excellent comments, I have not seen you before but you have taken the time to actually help someone understand how CF works, keep up the good job.
Quoting: Juice
Of course not too soon. Absolutely nothing wrong with your approach....plus you’re inviting constructive feedback so you can learn....that’s a lot more than I can say for a lot of posters on here.

Keep inviting comments, you’ll find out soon enough who’s just on here to troll and who you can get good conversations out of.

My 2 cents:
1. Less is more sometimes. You don’t often see a team pull off more than 3 deals in a season so if you post higher than suggested 4 trades it looks a bit too dramatic or unrealistic.

2. Can put either the names of the players you’re trading for or the teams you’re trading with in your team name. That way fans of those players/teams are more likely to check out your deals and give their comments.

3. Keep doing what you’re doing...combined with #2 above, if you invite feedback and ask fans from those teams to comment on value, you can often get a great conversation going.

4. Ignore the trolls and brush off the know-it-all’s. Unless we’re talking rules or CBA, nobody can tell you they’re right and you’re wrong. We’re all pretty much here to share opinions

Have fun and keep at it.

As for your trades here:
- zucc and Namestnikov can likely land you the first and maybe a bit more. But not from LAK unless it’s the offseason or the pick is protected.

- if you like ho-sang, maybe one of the pieces from the trade above can be used to get him from the island

- I don’t see Montreal looking to be sellers yet so not sure they’d look to deal Tatar for parts

- Shattenkirk might be too risky an add for a team on the upswing like Buffalo but the value of the trade isn’t terrible


Now do both of you think that Buffalo trade is fair? TBH as a Sabres fan I would love to have Shattenkirk, I must be wrong because so many other think it would be bad for Buffalo, but IMO he is at least equal to Ristolainen if not better. Moving Scandella for Shattenkirk also helps Buffalo's LHD v RHD balance. TBH, I would think Buffalo would need to add to Scandella to get Shattenkirk.
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18 janv. 2019 à 14 h 53
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Excellent comments, I have not seen you before but you have taken the time to actually help someone understand how CF works, keep up the good job.


Now do both of you think that Buffalo trade is fair? TBH as a Sabres fan I would love to have Shattenkirk, I must be wrong because so many other think it would be bad for Buffalo, but IMO he is at least equal to Ristolainen if not better. Moving Scandella for Shattenkirk also helps Buffalo's LHD v RHD balance. TBH, I would think Buffalo would need to add to Scandella to get Shattenkirk.


I guess it depends on how motivated the Rangers are to move his contract. From my point of view (and I don't watch either guy play regularly), Buffalo has a safe, reliable d-man in Scandella. Doesn't do anything special but doesn't get caught making too many mistakes either. A solid middle-pairing d-man who's valued just about right at $4m...and only 1yr left on his deal.

At 6.65m and 2 more years, Shattenkirk is not grossly overpaid...but obviously hasn't been the d-man most people envisioned after that last season in St. Louis. I don't think he's anywhere near needing to be a cap dump...especially given there's only 2yrs left on the deal..but there might not be a line up of teams willing to take that full figure on given his play over the last couple years. So...at his best, he's way better than Scandella...but at his current average, he's overpaid....either way it makes sense why some people in Buffalo would support the trade and others would prefer to look elsewhere.
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