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Florida Panthers GM Game V3

Créé par: Kotkaniemi15
Date de création initiale: déc 9, 2018
Publié: 9 déc 2018 à 15 h 42
Équipe: 2018-19 Panthers de la Floride
Explications
Senior Advisor: N/A
Head Coach: Jeremy Colliton
Associate Coach: N/A
Assistant Coaches: Paul McFarland, Ben Cooper
Video Coach: Ben Cooper
Goaltending Coach: Robb Tallas

Team Direction: Re-Tool

October Trades Completed: 4/4
November Trades Completed: 4/4
December Trades Completed: 3/4
January Trades Completed: 2/4
February Trades Completed: 1/4
March Trades Completed: 0/4

Waiver Claims used:
October: 1/2
November: 0/2
December: 0/2
January: 0/2
February: 1/2
March: 1/2

Players or Assets Already involved in trades:

Captains:
C: Stamkos
A: Bellemare
A: Larkin

Needs:
Players with under 3 pro years of experience
Goalie Prospect
Young Defenseman
Looking to move some of their forwards (AHL or NHL) to acquire current or future help in goaltending and on the blue line.

Current Trade Block:
Vladislav Namestnikov
Tanner Pearson
Cam Ward
Michael Haley
Adam Mascherin

Available for the Right Price:
Roberto Luongo
Dylan Larkin
Almost Any Forward

Untouchables:
Tom Wilson
Kirill Kaprisov

Hard to Get:
Denis Malgin
Michael Matheson
Pontus Aberg
Steven Stamkos

Injuries:
Derek MacKenzie - Shoulder - Out Indefinitely
MacKenzie Weegar - Undisclosed - Day-to-Day

Suspensions:
None

(Unsigned Players) - Expiry Dates
Chase Priskie - D - August 15th, 2019
Cole Fraser - D - June 1st, 2019
Kiril Kaprizov - RW - Indefinite
Karch Bachman - LW/C - Aug 15, 2020
Alexander Delnov - LW - Indefinite
Miguel Fidler - LW - Aug. 15, 2020
Benjamin Finkelstein - D - Aug. 15, 2021
Sergei Gaiduchenko - G - Indefinite
Max Gildon - D - Aug. 15, 2021
Tyler Inamoto - D - Aug.15, 2021
Yaroslav Kosov - LW/RW - Indefinite
Patrick Shea - C - Aug. 15, 2020
Joe Wegwerth - LW - Aug. 15, 2019
Christopher Wilkie - RW - Aug 15, 2020
Kevin Bahl - D - June 1st, 2020
Fabian Zetterlund - C - June 1st - 2021
Jarret Tyszka - June 1st, 2019
Joni Ikonen - June 1st, 2021
Andrei Svetlakov - Indefinite
Curtis Valk - C - Indefinite

(Draft Picks)
Jacob Olofsson - June 1st, 2022
Benoit Olivier-Groulx - June 1st, 2022
Blake McLaughlin - June 1st, 2022
Dmitry Zavgorodniy - June 1st - 2022
Ivan Muranov - June 1st, 2022
Michal Kvasnica - June 1st - 2022
Alexis Gravel - June 1st, 2022
Zachary Bouthillier - June 1st, 2022
Ondrej Buchtela - June 1st, 2022
Luke Loheit - June 1st 2022

Players in CHL or other leagues:
(Players do not count against roster cap)
Alexandre Texier

NMC/NTC's:
Mike Hoffman - NTC - Used twice
Niklas Hjalmarsson - NMC/NTC - Used Twice
Roberto Luongo - NTC - Not Used
Steven Stamkos - NMC - Used Once

Roster Size (Not Including Unsigned Players): 47/50 +1
Unsigned Players: 30
Total Amount of Players: 78/90

Retired Numbers :
10 - David Booth
37 - Wayne Huizenga
68 - Jaromir Jagr
93 - Bill Torrey
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Wilson, Tom43 500 000 $
Mascherin, Adam3850 000 $
Weegar, MacKenzie2950 000 $
Komarov, Leo21 500 000 $
Larkin, Dylan66 000 000 $
McCann, Jared32 500 000 $
Ward, Cam12 150 000 $
Richardson, Brad1950 000 $
Folin, Christian1950 000 $
Transactions
FLA
    Kaprizov (rights)
    MIN
    1. Borgström, Henrik
    FLA
    1. Ceci, Cody
    OTT
    1. 2019 4e round pick (FLA)
    FLA
    1. Wilson, Tom
    2. Pinho, Brian
    3. Copley, Pheonix
    4. 2020 3e round pick (WSH)
    5. 2021 2e round pick (WSH)
    6. 2021 3e round pick (WSH)
    WSH
    1. Dadonov, Evgeni
    2. Petrovic, Alex
    FLA
    1. Cornel, Eric
    2. Girgensons, Zemgus
    BUF
    1. Bjugstad, Nick
    FLA
    1. Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
    VGK
    1. Montembeault, Samuel
    FLA
    1. Schlemko, David
    MTL
    1. Yandle, Keith (1 587 500 $ retained)
    FLA
    1. Gauthier, Julien
    2. Ferland, Micheal
    CAR
    1. Reimer, James
    2. Haapala, Henrik
    FLA
    1. Steenbergen, Tyler
    2. Hjalmarsson, Niklas
    ARI
    1. Thompson, Paul
    2. Melchiori, Julian
    3. MacDonald, Jacob
    4. Trocheck, Vincent
    FLA
    1. Coburn, Braydon (1 800 000 $ retained)
    TBL
      FLA
      1. Larkin, Dylan
      2. Rasmussen, Michael
      DET
      1. Barkov, Aleksander
      2. Ekblad, Aaron
      FLA
      1. Åberg, Pontus
      ANA
        FLA
        1. Edler, Alexander (2 500 000 $ retained)
        2. Hutton, Ben
        VAN
        1. McGinn, Jamie
        2. Vatrano, Frank
        FLA
        1. Hertl, Tomas
        SJS
          FLA
          1. Ward, Cam
          CHI
            FLA
            1. 2019 2e round pick (PIT)
            PIT
            1. 2019 5e round pick (FLA)
            2. 2020 5e round pick (FLA)
            3. 2019 7e round pick (FLA)
            4. 2020 7e round pick (FLA)
            5. 2021 7e round pick (FLA)
            FLA
            1. 2019 6e round pick (CAR)
            CAR
              FLA
              1. Strålman, Anton
              TBL
                FLA
                1. 2019 5e round pick (NJD)
                NJD
                1. Strålman, Anton (1 250 000 $ retained)
                FLA
                1. 2020 2e round pick (ARI)
                ARI
                  FLA
                  1. 2019 4e round pick (CBJ)
                  CBJ
                    FLA
                    1. 2020 3e round pick (COL)
                    COL
                      FLA
                      1. 2020 4e round pick (DET)
                      DET
                        FLA
                        1. 2019 6e round pick (WSH)
                        VAN
                          FLA
                          1. Bowey, Madison
                          2. Eller, Lars
                          3. 2019 7e round pick (WSH)
                          WSH
                          1. Hertl, Tomas
                          FLA
                          1. 2019 7e round pick (LAK)
                          LAK
                            FLA
                            1. Clendening, Adam
                            2. Jenner, Boone
                            3. Milano, Sonny
                            4. Texier, Alexandre
                            5. 2019 1e round pick (CBJ)
                            6. 2020 1e round pick (CBJ)
                            CBJ
                            1. Huberdeau, Jonathan
                            FLA
                            1. 2019 3e round pick (MIN)
                            MIN
                              FLA
                              1. Walker, Nathan
                              WSH
                                FLA
                                  CBJ
                                  1. Downing, Michael
                                  2. Kiselevich, Bogdan
                                  3. Hunt, Dryden
                                  FLA
                                    WSH
                                    1. Bajkov, Patrick
                                    2. Schemitsch, Thomas
                                    FLA
                                    1. 2019 4e round pick (VGK)
                                    2. 2019 6e round pick (VGK)
                                    VGK
                                    1. Ferland, Micheal
                                    FLA
                                    1. 2019 7e round pick (VGK)
                                    PIT
                                      FLA
                                      1. 2019 5e round pick (WSH)
                                      MIN
                                        FLA
                                        1. 2019 2e round pick (CBJ)
                                        MTL
                                          FLA
                                          1. 2021 3e round pick (DET)
                                          Rights to Cole Fraser
                                          DET
                                          1. Edler, Alexander
                                          FLA
                                          1. 2019 6e round pick (NYI)
                                          NYI
                                            FLA
                                            1. 2020 6e round pick (STL)
                                            OTT
                                              FLA
                                              1. 2019 7e round pick (NJD)
                                              NJD
                                                FLA
                                                1. 2019 4e round pick (NYI)
                                                CGY
                                                1. Ceci, Cody
                                                FLA
                                                1. 2021 4e round pick (WSH)
                                                2. 2021 7e round pick (WSH)
                                                WSH
                                                  FLA
                                                  1. Stalock, Alex
                                                  MIN
                                                    FLA
                                                    1. 2020 4e round pick (NSH)
                                                    NSH
                                                    1. Hutchinson, Michael
                                                    FLA
                                                    1. Gaunce, Brendan
                                                    2. Gagner, Sam
                                                    VAN
                                                      FLA
                                                      1. Phaneuf, Dion
                                                      2. 2019 4e round pick (LAK)
                                                      LAK
                                                      1. Eller, Lars
                                                      2. Coburn, Braydon
                                                      FLA
                                                      1. Stanley, Logan
                                                      WPG
                                                        FLA
                                                        1. 2019 3e round pick (TOR)
                                                        TOR
                                                          FLA
                                                          1. Stamkos, Steven
                                                          2. Conacher, Cory
                                                          TBL
                                                          1. Tippett, Owen
                                                          2. 2019 1e round pick (FLA)
                                                          3. 2019 2e round pick (PIT)
                                                          4. 2019 5e round pick (NJD)
                                                          Détails additionnels:
                                                          Linus Nassen
                                                          Aleksi Heponiemi
                                                          FLA
                                                          1. Pearson, Tanner
                                                          PIT
                                                            FLA
                                                            1. Zuccarello, Mats
                                                            NYR
                                                            1. Schlemko, David
                                                            2. Rasmussen, Michael
                                                            FLA
                                                            1. 2019 6e round pick (NSH)
                                                            NSH
                                                              FLA
                                                                Fixing Contracts
                                                                ANA
                                                                1. Weegar, MacKenzie
                                                                2. Ward, Cam
                                                                3. McCann, Jared
                                                                4. Larkin, Dylan
                                                                5. Wilson, Tom
                                                                FLA
                                                                1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
                                                                NYR
                                                                1. Phaneuf, Dion
                                                                2. 2019 4e round pick (LAK)
                                                                FLA
                                                                1. Smith, Zack
                                                                OTT
                                                                1. Hutton, Ben
                                                                2. Brouwer, Troy
                                                                3. Sceviour, Colton
                                                                4. 2019 6e round pick (FLA)
                                                                FLA
                                                                1. 2020 6e round pick (OTT)
                                                                OTT
                                                                  FLA
                                                                  1. 2019 5e round pick (NYR)
                                                                  NYR
                                                                  1. Stalock, Alex
                                                                  FLA
                                                                    Waiver claim.
                                                                    TBL
                                                                    1. Conacher, Cory
                                                                    FLA
                                                                    1. 2020 4e round pick (CBJ)
                                                                    CBJ
                                                                    1. Copley, Pheonix
                                                                    FLA
                                                                    1. Manning, Brandon
                                                                    EDM
                                                                      Fixing Contract
                                                                      FLA
                                                                        Claimed off waivers.
                                                                        OTT
                                                                        1. Smith, Zack
                                                                        FLA
                                                                        1. Richardson, Brad
                                                                        ARI
                                                                          Waivers
                                                                          FLA
                                                                          1. Stephenson, Chandler
                                                                          2. 2021 6e round pick (WSH)
                                                                          Détails additionnels:
                                                                          Rights to Chase Priskie
                                                                          Joel Eriksson-Ek
                                                                          WSH
                                                                          1. Mamin, Maxim
                                                                          2. Zuccarello, Mats
                                                                          3. 2021 7e round pick (WSH)
                                                                          FLA
                                                                          1. Eriksson Ek, Joel
                                                                          MIN
                                                                            From Washington Trade
                                                                            FLA
                                                                              Fixing Contract
                                                                              ARI
                                                                              1. Richardson, Brad
                                                                              Rachats de contrats
                                                                              • Jussi Jokinen: 1 333 333 $
                                                                              Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
                                                                              • Keith Yandle: 1 587 500 $ (25%)
                                                                              • Anton Strålman: 1 250 000 $ (27.78%)
                                                                              • Jason Demers: 562 500 $ (13%)
                                                                              Enfoui
                                                                              • Sam Gagner: 1 810 000 $ (2 835 000 $)
                                                                              ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
                                                                              2018
                                                                              2019
                                                                              CBJ
                                                                              CBJ
                                                                              MIN
                                                                              TOR
                                                                              CBJ
                                                                              VGK
                                                                              NYI
                                                                              WSH
                                                                              NYR
                                                                              CAR
                                                                              WSH
                                                                              VGK
                                                                              NYI
                                                                              NSH
                                                                              WSH
                                                                              LAK
                                                                              VGK
                                                                              NJD
                                                                              2020
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              CBJ
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              ARI
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              WSH
                                                                              COL
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              DET
                                                                              NSH
                                                                              CBJ
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              STL
                                                                              OTT
                                                                              2021
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              WSH
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              WSH
                                                                              DET
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              WSH
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              WSH
                                                                              TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                                                                              2380 000 000 $75 622 499 $0 $200 000 $4 377 501 $
                                                                              Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              Hoffman, Mike
                                                                              5 187 500 $
                                                                              AD, AG
                                                                              NTC
                                                                              UFA - 2
                                                                              TBL
                                                                              Stamkos, Steven
                                                                              8 500 000 $
                                                                              C, AD
                                                                              NMC
                                                                              UFA - 6
                                                                              Wilson, Tom
                                                                              3 500 000 $
                                                                              McCann, Jared
                                                                              2 500 000 $
                                                                              Larkin, Dylan
                                                                              6 000 000 $
                                                                              NYR
                                                                              Namestnikov, Vladislav
                                                                              3 250 000 $
                                                                              AD, AG, C
                                                                              UFA - 2
                                                                              WSH
                                                                              Stephenson, Chandler
                                                                              650 000 $
                                                                              AG, C
                                                                              UFA - 1
                                                                              CBJ
                                                                              Jenner, Boone
                                                                              3 750 000 $
                                                                              C, AG
                                                                              UFA - 4
                                                                              PIT
                                                                              Pearson, Tanner
                                                                              3 750 000 $
                                                                              AG
                                                                              UFA - 3
                                                                              VGK
                                                                              Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
                                                                              1 450 000 $
                                                                              C, AG
                                                                              UFA - 1
                                                                              Richardson, Brad
                                                                              950 000 $
                                                                              Komarov, Leo
                                                                              1 500 000 $
                                                                              Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              Matheson, Michael
                                                                              4 875 000 $
                                                                              DG
                                                                              UFA - 8
                                                                              ARI
                                                                              Hjalmarsson, Niklas
                                                                              4 100 000 $
                                                                              DG/DD
                                                                              NMC NTC
                                                                              UFA - 1
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              Luongo, Roberto
                                                                              4 533 333 $
                                                                              G
                                                                              NTC
                                                                              UFA - 4
                                                                              EDM
                                                                              Manning, Brandon
                                                                              2 250 000 $
                                                                              DG
                                                                              UFA - 2
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              Pysyk, Mark
                                                                              2 733 333 $
                                                                              DD, AD
                                                                              UFA - 2
                                                                              Ward, Cam
                                                                              2 150 000 $
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              McCoshen, Ian
                                                                              925 000 $
                                                                              DG
                                                                              UFA - 1
                                                                              Folin, Christian
                                                                              950 000 $
                                                                              Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
                                                                              BUF
                                                                              Girgensons, Zemgus
                                                                              1 600 000 $
                                                                              C, AG
                                                                              UFA - 1
                                                                              FLA
                                                                              MacKenzie, Derek
                                                                              1 375 000 $
                                                                              C, AG
                                                                              UFA - 1
                                                                              ANA
                                                                              Åberg, Pontus
                                                                              650 000 $
                                                                              AD, AG
                                                                              RFA - 1
                                                                              Weegar, MacKenzie
                                                                              950 000 $
                                                                              WSH
                                                                              Bowey, Madison
                                                                              1 000 000 $
                                                                              DD
                                                                              UFA - 2

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                                                                              20 mar 2019 à 14 h 32
                                                                              #126
                                                                              NBABound
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                                                                              Quoting: Max
                                                                              Today is the day we find out who gets Larkin. Unless of course he meant the 27th


                                                                              I think he meant wednesday in the offseason
                                                                              20 mar 2019 à 14 h 40
                                                                              #127
                                                                              Calgary GM v4
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                                                                              Quoting: Mr_cap
                                                                              I think he meant wednesday in the offseason


                                                                              Guy's only been on CF once since March 8th and couldn't even be bothered to check in on his team page.
                                                                              Isn't there a rule somewhere about non-contributing GMs
                                                                              20 mar 2019 à 15 h 11
                                                                              #128
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                                                                              Quoting: flamesfan419
                                                                              Guy's only been on CF once since March 8th and couldn't even be bothered to check in on his team page.
                                                                              Isn't there a rule somewhere about non-contributing GMs


                                                                              He’s the master of suspense
                                                                              NateElder12 a aimé ceci.
                                                                              20 mar 2019 à 15 h 27
                                                                              #129
                                                                              NateElder12
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                                                                              Quoting: Max
                                                                              He’s the master of suspense


                                                                              he's going to randomly post the trade he accepts and not tell anyone
                                                                              Max a aimé ceci.
                                                                              20 mar 2019 à 16 h 42
                                                                              #130
                                                                              NBABound
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                                                                              Quoting: Max
                                                                              He’s the master of suspense


                                                                              im the master of suspense
                                                                              20 mar 2019 à 17 h 05
                                                                              #131
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                                                                              Quoting: Mr_cap
                                                                              im the master of suspense


                                                                              Nah
                                                                              21 mar 2019 à 10 h 34
                                                                              #132
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                                                                              Imagine telling people that you’re listening on one of your best players just to up and leave at the last minute.

                                                                              Not just the master of suspense, but the master troller as well
                                                                              21 mar 2019 à 13 h 05
                                                                              #133
                                                                              Let'sGoBlues | WPGv4
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                                                                              @EthanK24 this is your official warning for inactivity. If you are going to be away for longer than 7 days, you must inform the BOG - I know you have been somewhat available on twitter lately so I'm starting the clock now. You have until midnight on Sunday 3/24 to respond to outstanding posts on your page.

                                                                              Cheers,
                                                                              BOG
                                                                              Gronk, flamesfan419 et l9guysports a aimé ceci.
                                                                              21 mar 2019 à 14 h 17
                                                                              #134
                                                                              NBABound
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                                                                              ETHAN LETS FINISH OUR DEAL BEFORE YOU GET FIRED
                                                                              25 mar 2019 à 12 h 28
                                                                              #135
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                                                                              Guys, he’s 2 days away from announcing the Larkin Trade
                                                                              Gronk a aimé ceci.
                                                                              25 mar 2019 à 14 h 16
                                                                              #136
                                                                              Calgary GM v4
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                                                                              I'm starting to think he just misspelled his page title, and it should say....

                                                                              ETHANK24 is gone by Wednesday
                                                                              Max a aimé ceci.
                                                                              25 mar 2019 à 15 h 44
                                                                              #137
                                                                              Justin_2t1
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                                                                              ETHAN IS GONE ???
                                                                              Gronk a aimé ceci.
                                                                              25 mar 2019 à 16 h 15
                                                                              #138
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                                                                              Quoting: BoltsPoint21
                                                                              ETHAN IS GONE ???


                                                                              NOOOOOOOO
                                                                              25 mar 2019 à 16 h 16
                                                                              #139
                                                                              Our Lord and Saviour
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                                                                              What’s this I hear of an open position
                                                                              Pross, Max et Gronk a aimé ceci.
                                                                              25 mar 2019 à 16 h 58
                                                                              #140
                                                                              Justin_2t1
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                                                                              Quoting: McJesus_
                                                                              What’s this I hear of an open position


                                                                              very funny Max
                                                                              Max a aimé ceci.
                                                                              25 mar 2019 à 17 h 32
                                                                              #141
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                                                                              Quoting: BoltsPoint21
                                                                              very funny Max


                                                                              ****
                                                                              25 mar 2019 à 17 h 33
                                                                              #142
                                                                              Our Lord and Saviour
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                                                                              Quoting: BoltsPoint21
                                                                              very funny Max


                                                                              Who’s max
                                                                              Gronk a aimé ceci.
                                                                              27 mar 2019 à 16 h 31
                                                                              #143
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                                                                              Today is the day
                                                                              29 mar 2019 à 0 h 18
                                                                              #144
                                                                              Still a Leafs Fan
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                                                                              I want Larkin
                                                                              Kadri +
                                                                              29 mar 2019 à 0 h 37
                                                                              #145
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                                                                              Quoting: Rodzikhockey93
                                                                              I want Larkin
                                                                              Kadri +


                                                                              He’s gone Donald... We lost him
                                                                              30 mar 2019 à 10 h 27
                                                                              #146
                                                                              Tyler Paluzzi
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