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Fixing Possible Cap Problems (Trades with CGY, EDM, LA, and NSH)

Créé par: MTLFAN27
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 28 août 2018
Publié: 28 août 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If someone puts a large offer sheet on Matthews or Marner the Leafs are screwed
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 350 000 $
21 250 000 $
22 000 000 $
2900 000 $
86 000 000 $
1700 000 $
22 250 000 $
810 500 000 $
87 500 000 $
23 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 000 000 $
21 100 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
2.
3.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (CGY)
4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
Rights to RFA Adrain Kempe
If Marleau resigns 2021 2nd becomes a 2021 1st.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de EDM
Logo de SJS
2021
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de LAK
Logo de TOR
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Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2022
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2019
Logo de CGY
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2179 500 000 $73 918 666 $0 $400 000 $5 581 334 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DD
UFA
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 3
700 000 $700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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28 août 2018 à 14 h 57
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Well offer sheets will not be a problem for the Leafs. Offer sheets don't happen anymore ... ever. Your problem is that LA has NO reason to give up Kempe and a 2nd that could turn into a 1st for Marleau and his contract. He's in his late 30s and they're not gonna do that just to give the Leafs can space. Also, why would the Oilers do that? Zaitsev's good but not as good as Klefbom, and a 3rd isn't gonna make it fair.
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28 août 2018 à 15 h 1
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An offer sheet for Marner or Matthews does not worry me as the # would have to be so big no team will make it and give up 4 First round picks. I'm more concerned about offer sheets for Kap or AJ at like 3 or 4 mill per that we would have trouble matching
28 août 2018 à 15 h 9
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forget the prospect of offer sheets, you're dumping marleau and respect an actual return? that's an overpayment and then some
28 août 2018 à 15 h 14
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Yeah kings aren’t gonna give you Kempe for Marleau
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28 août 2018 à 15 h 24
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Well offer sheets will not be a problem for the Leafs. Offer sheets don't happen anymore ... ever. Your problem is that LA has NO reason to give up Kempe and a 2nd that could turn into a 1st for Marleau and his contract. He's in his late 30s and they're not gonna do that just to give the Leafs can space. Also, why would the Oilers do that? Zaitsev's good but not as good as Klefbom, and a 3rd isn't gonna make it fair.


What about a 2nd in the Klefbom deal.
28 août 2018 à 15 h 27
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Yeah kings aren’t gonna give you Kempe for Marleau


So what would you get for Marleau?
28 août 2018 à 15 h 31
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So what would you get for Marleau?


Nobody wants his contract

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What about a 2nd in the Klefbom deal.


No, don't trade for Klefbom unless you pay the price.
28 août 2018 à 15 h 43
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So what would you get for Marleau?


How about nothing since he is not waiving his damn NMC to leave the Leafs!
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28 août 2018 à 15 h 57
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hahah at all these trades. Nashville wouldnt even make that trade because arvidson is on a friendly contract. the klefbom deal is not close and your absolutely crazy if you think A patty is going anywhere and B your getting anything back let alone kempe. the fact that you even mentioned a first is beyond me
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28 août 2018 à 16 h 25
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A lot of less-experienced AGM's try to resolve Toronto's 2019 cap problem by blithely trading Marleau somewhere. He has a No Movement Clause. It's not going to happen.

CapFriendly's otherwise excellent software (it corrects mis-spellings my multimillion-dollar law firm's program doesn't catch) should automatically prevent trading guys with NMC's, just like it prevents reverting trades when you no longer have the player on your team.
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28 août 2018 à 17 h 14
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How does that benefit edm?
28 août 2018 à 17 h 44
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
A lot of less-experienced AGM's try to resolve Toronto's 2019 cap problem by blithely trading Marleau somewhere. He has a No Movement Clause. It's not going to happen.

CapFriendly's otherwise excellent software (it corrects mis-spellings my multimillion-dollar law firm's program doesn't catch) should automatically prevent trading guys with NMC's, just like it prevents reverting trades when you no longer have the player on your team.


Sorry I didn't see the NMC. And please don't call me a rookie I've posted 376 times on this site. I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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28 août 2018 à 17 h 50
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Sorry I didn't see the NMC. And please don't call me a rookie I've posted 376 times on this site. I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.


Now you'll never trade a guy with a NMC again and so you won't be "less experienced." As for relative brightness, you should know that I'm the dolt that traded Erik Karlsson to Florida so that Mrs. Karlsson could reacquaint herself with Mrs. Hoffman.
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28 août 2018 à 17 h 54
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
A lot of less-experienced AGM's try to resolve Toronto's 2019 cap problem by blithely trading Marleau somewhere. He has a No Movement Clause. It's not going to happen.

CapFriendly's otherwise excellent software (it corrects mis-spellings my multimillion-dollar law firm's program doesn't catch) should automatically prevent trading guys with NMC's, just like it prevents reverting trades when you no longer have the player on your team.


Disagree. Players with NTC / NMC's get traded all the time. The clause just allows the player to be in control of whether he gets moved and to where. The player has the option to waive the clause when requested.

With respect to Marleau, I don't see him wanting to go anywhere else at this point. He wants to win, he committed to Toronto based on the "big 3" and now they've added Tavares so his chances of winning are as good there as anywhere.
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28 août 2018 à 17 h 57
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Sorry I didn't see the NMC. And please don't call me a rookie I've posted 376 times on this site. I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.


Players with NMC's get traded all the time in real life. It's not wrong to create an AGM with this happening, just try to make it a realistic scenario and justify your thinking in the Team Explanation.
28 août 2018 à 17 h 57
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Now you'll never trade a guy with a NMC again and so you won't be "less experienced." As for relative brightness, you should know that I'm the dolt that traded Erik Karlsson to Florida so that Mrs. Karlsson could reacquaint herself with Mrs. Hoffman.


We all make mistakes.
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28 août 2018 à 18 h 45
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Instead of saying the Leafs are are screwed if a offer sheet comes. Try this. Make a projected lineup for 2019/20 without any trades, you'll see the Leafs are under the cap. Leafs really don't a LHD at the expense of a RHD. Doubtful Hainsey returns.
I admit if an absurd offer sheets comes for Marner or Matthews the Leafs lose those players. But how are they screwed? They just take that money they had allotted for those guys, spend it elsewhere and have the draft picks. Unpleasant, short term lose, but hardly a screwing.
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