5 trades to change the Rangers for the better

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Créé par: Cjeths

Équipe: 2017-18 Rangers de New York

Date de création initiale: 18 janv. 2018

Publié: 18 janv. 2018

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

In terms of value

Hayes = Meier
Nash @ 50% retained = 1st & 3rd
Smith > Boedker

Smith is more enticing than Boedker at this point for SJS

Kreider = Galchenyuk +
Leftover Kreider Value + DeAngelo + 1st = Pacioretty

Speedy Boedker meets with speedy McDavid.

Deshairnais finds potentially bigger role in St. Louis. Desharnais looks to put up 40 points this year as a fourth liner so a third is fair.

Crowded forward core opened up by sending Colorado a good young winger for their top 6 in exchange for a dman they had a hard time negotiating with and already have a crowded defense.

Offseason Holden walks and/or buyout Staal, this opens up two spots for the likes of Sproul, Graves, Pionk, Bereglazov, Crawley, Gilmour, and Day to compete heavily for.

Could sign or let Grabner walk, but need him for the playoff run.

Money will get tight around the time of Hanks final contract year, but with the way the cap is set to grow yearly we may not even need to rely on Hanks cap hit disappearing to maintain the team/grow.

Feel free to constructively criticize. I'm well aware all of these trades will not happen, however I kinda like the way this came out.

Transactions

NYR

Boedker, Mikkel
Meier, Timo
Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (SJS)

SJS

Hayes, Kevin
Nash, Rick (3 900 000 $ retained)
Smith, Brendan

NYR

Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (EDM)

EDM

Boedker, Mikkel (2 000 000 $ retained)

NYR

Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (STL)

STL

Desharnais, David

NYR

MTL

Deangelo, Anthony
Kreider, Chris
Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (SJS)

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Rick Nash: 3 900 000 $ (100%)
Mikkel Boedker: 2 000 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2018
2019
2020

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	75 000 000 $	69 680 278 $	0 $	750 000 $	5 319 722 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Pacioretty, Max 4 050 000 $4 050 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Zibanejad, Mika 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C UFA - 5	Buchnevich, Pavel 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 2
Miller, J.T. 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Galchenyuk, Alex 4 900 000 $4 900 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 3	Meier, Timo 894 167 $894 167 $ (750 000 $$750K) AG, AD UFA - 2
Chytil, Filip 925 000 $925 000 $ C, AG UFA - 4	Andersson, Lias 925 000 $925 000 $ C, AG RFA - 4	Zuccarello, Mats 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Grabner, Michael 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Lettieri, Vinni 925 000 $925 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2	Fast, Jesper 1 850 000 $1 850 000 $ AD UFA - 3
	Carey, Paul 650 000 $650 000 $ C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
McDonagh, Ryan 4 700 000 $4 700 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Shattenkirk, Kevin 6 650 000 $6 650 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4	Lundqvist, Henrik 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 4
Skjei, Brady 925 000 $925 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Zadorov, Nikita 2 150 000 $2 150 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Pavelec, Ondrej 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ G UFA - 1
Staal, Marc 5 700 000 $5 700 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 4	Holden, Nick 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ DG UFA - 1
	Kampfer, Steven 650 000 $650 000 $ DD UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Zibanejad, M.		Galchenyuk, A.		Pacioretty, M.
	Shattenkirk, K.		Buchnevich, P.

Avantage numérique 2
Lettieri, V.		Miller, J.		Chytil, F.
	Skjei, B.		McDonagh, R.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Miller, J.	Fast, J.
	McDonagh, R.	Zadorov, N.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Andersson, L.	Grabner, M.
	Staal, M.	Holden, N.

18 janv. 2018 à 15 h 19

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Avs 100% turn down that deal, Zads has been the Avs top pairing force this year. Vesey doesnt even come close to the value the Avs would need here

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18 janv. 2018 à 15 h 21

F50marco

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Modifié 18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 10

I wouldn't do that if I'm Montreal.

Krieder just finished having a crazy illness.
Deangelo would be on his 4th team in 3 years.
SJS 1st is pretty late at the moment.

I just edited that first one. It didn't make sense lol

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18 janv. 2018 à 15 h 21

nikeBauer4411

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Not sure why STL would need or want Desharnais.
Or why San Jose would want Nash... maybe Hayes.
Or how you think a 1st Deangelo and Kreider will land you both Pacioretty and Galchenyuk.
Zadarov for Vesey is the right value but COL needs Zad way more than they need another young LW.

18 janv. 2018 à 15 h 29

Hedman77

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No from MTL and COL

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18 janv. 2018 à 15 h 34

Kotkaniemi15

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This almost made me throw up. shakes head

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18 janv. 2018 à 15 h 35

HABS19

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good luck with price and kreider on the same team

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18 janv. 2018 à 15 h 56

goodfella

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Hayes = Meier
Nash @ 50% retained = 1st & 3rd
Smith > Boedker

Hayes doesn't equal Meier. Meier has better long term upside for us. I can't see him getting traded.
Nash isn't worth those picks to us. He's not what he used to be.
Martin can't crack the defensive line up, so why do we need another guy who wouldn't.

Hell no.

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 8

Cjeths

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Quoting: coga16

Avs 100% turn down that deal, Zads has been the Avs top pairing force this year. Vesey doesnt even come close to the value the Avs would need here

Thank you for the innocent and valid response

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 9

Cjeths

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Quoting: F50marco

I wouldn't do that if I'm Montreal.

Krieder just a crazy illness.
Deangelo would be on his 4th team in 3 years.
SJS 1st is pretty late at the moment.

In your mind what else is needed for the trade? Kreider is a consistent 20+ goal scorer, DeAngelo is a solid OFD, but isn't in the NHL bc of Rangers deep d core, SJS first would most likely be late yes.

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 14

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Quoting: nikeBauer4411

STL already down Fabbri the entire season so why not add a 3/4C who is scoring at a .5PPG pace

Nash has developed himself in a very solid, still top 6 worth, two-way forward. He is still 6"4 220lbs, skates very well, puts up scoring chance rates towards the top of the league (almost ahead of Kucherov), has a history with Joe Thornton (player together for Canada and during both lockouts for a team in the SHL), and would help SJS in the playoff run. Not for nothing, but Hansen and Boedker aren't exactly go to guys right now.

MTL wants picks so there's the first rounder
Chris Kreider is a consistent 20+ goal scorer and has the speed MTL lacks
DeAngelo is a 22y/o OFD who is right handed who should be in the NHL no thanks to Alain vigneault

Galchenyuk and Pacioretty have been being chased out of MTL all season. Friends of mine who are Canadien fans say all the time how poorly they're treated and how they can't wait for them to go...so yeah I'd say that's sufficient value.

I can agree on the final point

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 15

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Quoting: Hedman77

No from MTL and COL

Thanks for the feedback, care to elaborate as to why?

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 16

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Quoting: EthanK24

This almost made me throw up. shakes head

Feel free to state why. Part of commenting is leaving constructive criticism and being able to voice your opinion as to why you agree/disagree with things.

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 18

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Quoting: HABS19

good luck with price and kreider on the same team

I'm sure they'd put aside their differences if they were successful. All about winning in the end

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 18

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Quoting: Hockeyfan5699

Nothing. You are picking things MTL is not interested in if they were to trade both those guys. Guys MTL would want? Andersson, Chytil, etc.

Yeah Kreider is a consistent 20+ goal scorer but he just finsihed beign diagnosed with a blood clot in his arm!. Pacioretty is a consistent 30+ goal scorer without the blood clot......... Deangelo is not playing because of that reason. Unless guys like Holden and Kampfer are really good in your mind....He's been traded too many times. Its becoming obvious he has some issues that worry some teams. He had it before being drafted. Its well documented. Galchenyuk and Pacioretty are having down years and are still on scoring pace with guys like Buchnevich and Miller are this year.

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 22

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Quoting: goodfella

How does Hayes exactly not equal Meier? I can see it as an age difference thing, but Meier has 76 games played in the NHL and 19 points to show for it...anyone is tradeable, I can see them wanting to keep the younger guy to see if he can maybe develop into something, but why not the immediate help? SJS has this year and maybe next year as a cup window. Thornton on a year contract and is almost 40, Pavelski 33, Burns 32, Vlasic 30, Ward 37, etc

Brendan Smith could easily crack the top 6 for SJS. Smaller market + scores at a good rate for a DFD. I can see him fitting in just fine. Took back Boedkers contact to even things up.

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 26

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Quoting: F50marco

Figured MTL would want 26 y/o Kreider with 4 years left at $4.6 over 29 y/o Pacioretty with 2 years left at $4.5 for 'going younger purposes'

Not sure where the belief Kampfer and Holden aren't good come from...Holden scored 34 points last year...hard to judge players you don't watch on a night to night basis. I can vouch for the both of them and say that they both are playing very VERY well. DeAngelo definitely has his demons to deal with so I'll for sure give you that.

Trust me comparing someone's output to any Rangers player holds no merit ??Vigneault has royally screwed every players output this year based off of his bonehead decisions alone

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 26

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the mtl trade is a joke

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18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 28

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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat

the mtl trade is a joke

Explain please. Perhaps a counter offer? Just saying it's a joke helps nobody

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 29

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The SJS trade isn't happening.

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 30

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Quoting: Hockeyfan5699

mtl doesnt lack consistent 20 goal scorers on the wing and speedy wingers. they lack centers

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 30

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Quoting: Hockeyfan5699

Explain please. Perhaps a counter offer? Just saying it's a joke helps nobody

Pacioretty can score 30 goals on the right team, and Montreal doesn't want that return. They're getting Kreider who's had injury problems this year, and likely a later 1st, and a good prospect but for Pacioretty AND Galchenyuk. I'm a Rangers fan and i don't like the trade for the Habs.

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18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 32

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Quoting: Hockeyfan5699

Explain please. Perhaps a counter offer? Just saying it's a joke helps nobody

realistically, rangers dont have prospects that would interest mtl. would they be willing to trade chytil or lias andessen? doubt it. so eaasily thye arent a trade partner. plus if mtl is gonna trade 2 elite forwards, doubt they trade to a rival. they would likely go west, unless the offer is too good to be true

18 janv. 2018 à 16 h 33

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Quoting: Hockeyfan5699

Figured MTL would want 26 y/o Kreider with 4 years left at $4.6 over 29 y/o Pacioretty with 2 years left at $4.5 for 'going younger purposes'

Not sure where the belief Kampfer and Holden aren't good come from...Holden scored 34 points last year...hard to judge players you don't watch on a night to night basis. I can vouch for the both of them and say that they both are playing very VERY well. DeAngelo definitely has his demons to deal with so I'll for sure give you that.

Trust me comparing someone's output to any Rangers player holds no merit ??Vigneault has royally screwed every players output this year based off of his bonehead decisions alone

I'll tell you what, if you can get one of the other notable Ranger fan posters on here to agree with your statement above, i'll change my mind on them. But until then, if you simply filter NYR AGM's on here and go back as far as the start of the season, almost every single one is labeled "get rid of holden" or "Holden sucks" etc. Once again this is coming from NYR fans not my own uneducated opinion.

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18 janv. 2018 à 18 h 27

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Quoting: F50marco

I know it's amazing that people think they suck. It's moreso a bandwagon belief to say that. Not really a fan of NYR fans on this site. Most of them hate every player and want to trade everybody. Best source for your question is Adam Herman, Steve Zipay, or Larry Brooks

18 janv. 2018 à 19 h 57

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Quoting: Hockeyfan5699

Feel free to state why. Part of commenting is leaving constructive criticism and being able to voice your opinion as to why you agree/disagree with things.

Desharnais is probably worth a 5th or 6th.
STL wouldn't want Desharnais.
Montreal hates Kreider.
The MTL trade wouldn't even be enough to get Galchenyuk.
The avs weakness is D, they're not trading one of their best ones for a forward.
Nash isn't worth a 1st much less both a 1st and a 3rd.
Sharks don't need Hayes, they have enough centers.

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