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please stop only using points to evaluate players

Créé par: JeffGorton
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 19 nov. 2023
Publié: 19 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Description
Jackets fans not realizing that Laine gets paid 8,3m for another 3 years. Has worse injury issues and is a defensive liability. If Anderson is a cap dump, then so it Laine.

Laine had 1 good season which was last year in overall 5v5 production. Take the 5 past seasons and Anderson have been better 5v5 overall. Laine is a powerplay merchant.

Now lets count the money owed. Anderson has 23m owed left (no signing bonus) in 4 years. Laine has 25m owed (4m in signing bonus) for 3 years left. So any deal involving the 2, Columbus saves money while not having to pay a signing bonus and gets a player for an extra year.

I havent even mentioned that Anderson actually forechecks, blocks shots, hits and has more takeaways than giveaways. This would also be the 2nd time Laine would be traded over "being lazy". Dude is 6'5 and Anderson has more hits this season than Laine's highest hit total in Columbus

Now this season, Anderson is just getting super unlucky. He has 5.4 expected goals and scored none of them. Laine has 1.5 and scored 2. Laine hasnt taken a High Danger shot yet and only has 2 medium shot danger attempts. Anderson has 6 high danger and 17 medium danger. And if you counter into shooting talent, Laine has score 0.1 goals more than expected and Anderson has scored 5.3 less goals than expected

So the anti anderson folks can call him a cap dump and whatnot, Laine is not much better if not worse. Points arent everything when evaluating players
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  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
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Read description for explanation on Anderson vs Laine

Also cap would have to come back in any Laine trade. No one is gonna eat 8m for nothing, no matter how good the player is
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MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
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  1. Montembeault, Samuel
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Devils need a goalie ASAP, yall stink
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2283 500 000 $82 867 916 $1 170 000 $710 000 $632 084 $

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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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19 nov. 2023 à 20 h 46
#1
Banni
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Stop with the Anderson for Laine BS, Columbus has zero interest in bringing back Anderson. And those pieces alone aren't worth taking Anderson back let alone any value going to Columbus.
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19 nov. 2023 à 20 h 47
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5v5 P/60 by season
23/24: Laine: 1.1 Anderson: 0.27
22/23: Laine: 2.26 Anderson: 1.63
21/22: Laine: 2.53 Anderson: 1.56
20/21: Laine: 1.19 Anderson: 1.69
19/20: Laine: 2.03 Anderson: 0.56
18/19: Laine: 1.35 Anderson: 1.74
17/18: Laine: 2 Anderson: 1.48
16/17: Laine: 2.32 Anderson: 1.79

5v5 points by season
23/24: Laine: 2 Anderson: 1
22/23: Laine: 30 Anderson: 25
21/22: Laine: 34 Anderson: 26
20/21: Laine: 13 Anderson: 20
19/20: Laine: 35 Anderson: 3
18/19: Laine: 24 Anderson: 33
17/18: Laine: 35 Anderson: 23
16/17: Laine: 40 Anderson: 27

Anderson is not a better 5v5 player at all, please research the facts before falsely stating that he is. While Laine isn’t a complete player, he’s far better than Anderson. Just because Anderson hits more and can skate fast doesn’t make him better when he’s awful offensively and defensively
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19 nov. 2023 à 20 h 49
#3
Jeff Gorton
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Stop with the Anderson for Laine BS, Columbus has zero interest in bringing back Anderson. And those pieces alone aren't worth taking Anderson back let alone any value going to Columbus.


If Anderson is a cap dump then so is Laine. That price is the difference
19 nov. 2023 à 20 h 49
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Dolzhenkov Is Coming
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Said this elsewhere, I'd so much rather the Jackets retain 50% on Laine than have anything to do with the dumpster fire that is Josh Anderson's contract.
19 nov. 2023 à 20 h 53
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Berkly goat Catton
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Habs aren’t trading Montembeault for a third lol. Especially of they trade Allen. Dude best season is better than Demko’s best season (excluding this year)
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