For The Sake Of Discussion - Price

Créé par: ricochetii

Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton

Date de création initiale: 10 sept. 2021

Publié: 10 sept. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Légende

Gaucher

Équipe initiale

Exempté du ballottage

Droitier

Position

Clause d'échange

Max. Bonis de perf.

Statut à l’échéance du contrat

Terme restant

McDavid, Connor

12 500 000 $ ( Bonis de performance

250 000 $)

NMC

UFA - 5

Description

Let's assume Montreal doesn't make playoffs, decides to retool around the younger core, and wants to give Price a chance with another team. This would be a deadline move this year. Price has to want it of course. He hasn't played behind that kind of offensive star power, so it could be an intriguing destination for him if Montreal doesn't expect to compete for a couple years.

Edmonton is searching for goaltending on an annual basis, and Price gives them stability and a playoff performer they can rely on.

The retention here is high and the return is low considering the amount is probably around double what Montreal should retain. Other salary would have to be moved if the numbers were any different, and the return is only the main pieces.

The rest isn't as important as to whether the idea itself has merit. Does Price in Edmonton work?

P.S. I'm well aware I'm committing blasphemy, but this is about giving Price an honest chance, not about Montreal.

Transactions

EDM

Price, Carey (5 000 000 $ retained)

MTL

Koskinen, Mikko
Lavoie, Raphael
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)

Rachats de contrats

James Neal: 1 916 667 $
Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (12.5%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	80 771 968 $	669 339 $	907 500 $	728 032 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 7	McDavid, Connor 12 500 000 $12 500 000 $ C UFA - 5	Puljujärvi, Jesse 1 175 000 $1 175 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 8	Draisaitl, Leon 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ C, AG UFA - 4	Foegele, Warren 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3
Perlini, Brendan 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1		Kassian, Zack 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Shore, Devin 850 000 $850 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 2	Turris, Kyle 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Ryan, Derek 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2
	McLeod, Ryan 834 167 $834 167 $ (57 500 $$58K) C RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Nurse, Darnell 5 600 000 $5 600 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Price, Carey 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 5
Keith, Duncan 5 538 462 $5 538 462 $ DG NMC UFA - 2	Ceci, Cody 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Smith, Mike 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ G UFA - 2
Koekkoek, Slater 925 000 $925 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Bouchard, Evan 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Archibald, Josh 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1		Klefbom, Oscar 4 167 000 $4 167 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2
Lagesson, William 725 000 $725 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Russell, Kris 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Commentaires populaires

10 sept. 2021 à 17 h 25

Drakin1978

Rejoint: janv. 2018

Messages: 430

Mentions "j'aime": 96

a first and a cap dump + lavoie isn't worth 25m in retention and a loss of a player of prices caliber. I get its not about Montreal but you need two to play the trade game and this isn't enough

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10 sept. 2021 à 17 h 35

A_Habs_fan

Rejoint: oct. 2020

Messages: 12,747

Mentions "j'aime": 17,381

We're not retaining 5mil on Price and taking on Koskinen and ONLY getting Lavoie + 1st

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10 sept. 2021 à 17 h 52

Billy739

Rejoint: déc. 2017

Messages: 6,590

Mentions "j'aime": 1,629

If you Really wanna do this make it a 3 way trade

MTL without retaining would want something like McCleod and a 2nd round pick and take Koskinen for cap purposed
ARZ is in Full Rebuild Mode and wont hit its max cap again for like 3 years minimum
Their GM did well drafting with his father choosing to covet Picks most over all so use that

Flip them a 1st round pick, conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if EDM wins a cup and a 3rd round pick Conditional becomes a 2nd if EDM wins a cup
Thats the ball park for retaining that much cap longterm

You'd give up
Mcleod
Koskinen(cap reasons)
1st round pick
2nd round pick conditional
3rd round pick conditial

You get Price fresh off a SCF at 5m Cap 500k more then Koskinen

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10 sept. 2021 à 17 h 56

CD282

Rejoint: mars 2017

Messages: 24,036

Mentions "j'aime": 7,746

Price has been below average for 3 of the past 4 years, the fact that he got hot for 6 weeks doesn't make him an attractive target all of the sudden. I don't see why anyone would give up those assets for him when you can get better goalies in free agency for similar money without spending high end assets.

10 sept. 2021 à 18 h 8

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

Rejoint: mars 2017

Messages: 10,667

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Quoting: Drakin1978

a first and a cap dump + lavoie isn't worth 25m in retention and a loss of a player of prices caliber. I get its not about Montreal but you need two to play the trade game and this isn't enough

I'm only looking at it as about $15M retention.
I consider about $2M a year as the depreciation value for a goaltender with a $10.5M contract.

Quoting: A_Habs_fan

We're not retaining 5mil on Price and taking on Koskinen and ONLY getting Lavoie + 1st

I get that. I said that's the maximum retention and only the main pieces I'd expect. If Edmonton moves Kassian (for example), they need $2M less retention. It depends where they can afford to cut salary before determining how much retention they need and what it will cost.

Quoting: Billy739

I would be fine with Montreal getting Lavoie and a 1st with the retention going elsewhere. I just don't see a 3rd party taking that much on for that length of time, or Edmonton being willing to cover that cost.
Montreal saves at least $5.5M of cap regardless. About enough for Primeau and a backup through those years. Retaining on your own player can be done cheaper than having someone else do it. It's not an issue if you can afford it through a period where your projected salary is below the cap.

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