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Forum: Armchair-GM13 sept. à 11 h 26
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Forum: Armchair-GM6 août à 21 h 16
This is a smart move for both teams.

Sens lose Joseph but get a good 4th liner and clear enough space to sign Pinto

Vegas is hungry for more and a guy like Joseph would look good on Nicolas' wing, really good. Good upgrade for a small amount

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>Joseph had a down year, but the game is there 100%.

Very underrated two-way player imo. His metrics suffered last year due to the Sens injuries, but as a 3rd line option, could fit a lot of teams..... just the contract is a bit rich in the flat cap space.</div></div>
lol don't listen to that poster. Look at that :

Points/60 at ES in 2021-22 : 1.89 (Joseph) vs 1.72 (Laughton)
Points/60 at ES in 2022-23 : 1.18 (Joseph) vs 1.45 (Laughton)

Joseph better defensive + PK results

In this poster's books, Joseph is a dead weight 4th liner while Laughton is worth 1st + 2nd :tearsofjoy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>Long contract? Lol

3 years isn't long. And when the cap goes up and Joseph does what he can truly do, it is a deal that falls in line.

He isn't overpaid by that much.</div></div>
He was overpaid by a million in a down year, but UNDERpaid in 2021-22, he had 30 ES + PK points in 69 games while being a TOP NHL PKer as usual.

He probably might not even be overpaid once again on this contract. He could be a cap casualty for Ottawa to become cap compliant but I am hoping they trade Kubalik for a pick instead (Joseph had a better ES production rate than him over the last 2 years. There's not even PP time for Kubalik, who needs that absolutely)
Forum: Armchair-GM31 juill. à 12 h 18
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Forum: Armchair-GM20 juill. à 6 h 22
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>Defintely not knocking Nylander's value. Love the guy.... I just don't see a $10 million winger.

You aren't wrong in that the market dictates what players get - eye of the beholder. But Nylander's comparable really are Fiala and Bratt. Similar game styles, similar analytics. Now, if they dictate the market, and the cap goes up $5 million, then it puts Nylander in around that $8.5 million range. Term then becomes the sticky point. Is he asking $10 million over 8? Which if he is, and the cap rises as it did before, then by year 4 it's a good deal. If it's $10 million over 3, I walk away.

And.... you forgot to bring up Cody Franson.... they guy that came off a career year, was asking like $4 million a year at the time. Misread the market so badly, he ended uo in Buffalo for league minimum. Going back a ways, but it is to your point.</div></div>

Agree, but alot of it has to do with team structure. Nylander is producing at pretty much a 90-95% rate as his 3 teammates, but is paid at 65%. Bratt's pay is in line with his team, Carolina is infamous for having a structure through the in a way, if nylander is on the open market or looking to resign with his "new team", hes probably similar to fiala, bratt, gaudreau, etc...but in toronto its a pretty substantial underpayment compared to his teammates.

and youre right, its term and cap increase, matthews, nylander are probably not at their last payday OR going to settle at a discount for a team seemingly in the same place they were six years ago results-wise.

The players, their agents can also see the diminishing prospect pool, draft picks and continued short term solution searching in goal and ufa that the leafs do, with really no further result

Not to say it happens but teams like detroit and philly for example have young teams on the up with multiple Blue chip prospects AND cap space.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 juill. à 11 h 50
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>He really doesnt have top 4 upside. When he played for us his best traits were on the third pair and PP. With Rielly it was a disaster and once Niemela comes along its back to the third pair again

<div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Connor Timmins, signed to a 2x$1.1M extension by TOR, is a useful defenceman to have near the bottom of the lineup. <a href="" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank"></a></p>— JFresh (@JFreshHockey) <a href="" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote>


Hes a good third pair guy but on this team we have Brodie, Klingberg, Liligren so no spot making that 1.1m an expense we should move on from

Added to the fact his PP times gone thanks to Klingberg makes little sense to keep him

Trade him for a 5th or some depth prospect and move on to a cheaper guy to rotate with Giordano like Jones</div></div>

That JFresh card is outdated and relies too heavily on a small sample size, some of which includes his time in Arizona. After getting a guy games with the Leafs and playing in a more favorable system, his stats improved quite a bit. Granted, this is still based on a small sample size, but the improvement is undeniable. He is still very young and has been defensively good in nearly every level of hockey he's played in. The disrespect is unreal

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Forum: NHL Trades10 juill. à 10 h 29
It’s not fair to judge this trade by what Ottawa gave up to get DeBrincat last year. That was a different situation. He was two years away from potential unrestricted free agency, which is not a long time, but Ottawa got cost certainty for the first year at a pretty low cap hit for a 24-year-old coming off his second 41-goal season, which raised his trade value. Although they didn’t make the playoffs, they benefited from his services at a good price for that season. This year they were trading signing rights to an unsigned RFA who wanted out and was going to arbitration.

Better comparisons would be Timo Meier and Pierre-Luc Dubois. Which of those situations is more similar depends on whether you think DeBrincat already had a contract negotiated with Detroit before the trade (which I believe they could do without Ottawa’s permission since he became a RFA on July 1). If not, then Meier is probably the best comparable, though Meier’s trade value should have been higher because in addition to acquiring his RFA signing rights, New Jersey also got him for last year’s playoff run at a reduced cap hit, which was probably worth a late 1st and more just to rent him for that time. If you subtract that from the package New Jersey got for Meier, I think what Ottawa got here is in the same ballpark.

If Detroit had the contract already negotiated, then Dubois is a better comparable. I don’t think the fact that LA signed Dubois for 8 years and Detroit signed DeBrincat for 4 is relevant – the point is that both teams knew they’d be getting a signed player. Winnipeg wanted roster players while Ottawa went more for futures, but it looks like Winnipeg got a better return than Ottawa. Iaffalo is signed for one season more than Kubalik, and Vilardi + Kupari are probably worth more than Sebrango + the 4th-round pick and the difference between the 1st Ottawa got and the 2nd Winnipeg got, but Vilardi and Kupari are unsigned RFAs, so there’s a lot of uncertainty around how long Winnipeg will be able to keep them around and what it’s going to cost them to do so. Of course, there’s also uncertainty around how good Sebrango and the 1st-round draft pick will turn out to be for Ottawa, but they have control over those assets for at least a few years.

One thing we shouldn’t ignore is that Ottawa got another valuable asset in this trade: Cap space. Instead of DeBrincat at whatever he would have been awarded in arbitration, they now have Kubalik at only $2.5M. What that cap space is worth will depend on what they do with it.

In summary, great trade for Detroit, and probably close to market value for Ottawa given their situation.
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