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Forum: Armchair-GM17 mai 2023 à 15 h 9
Sujet: Marner to Detroit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Oh you're a Leafs fan lol. Makes sense. Hi there lil buddy!!!! Marner deserves Seider + Raymond + 9OA ++++!!!</div></div>

So all I was trying to point out is that teams would trade some prospects and picks for a 100 point selke nominee if they like that player. Ya they rather him have more term but 2 years is workable and there’s a chance at an extension. Every trade has risks. If Detroit rather keep their prospects and keep drafting that’s cool, they can do that, not every prospect pans out tho. Basically saying that they wouldn’t trade one prospect for a top player in the league doesn’t make much sense. I’m not sure what the price would be but generally teams pay multiple picks/prospects in a deal like this.
Ya I’m a leafs fan, at the end of the day no one here knows what players could be traded and what the price could be. We are shocked by trade returns all the time.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 mai 2023 à 13 h 48
Sujet: Marner to Detroit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Rather cut my big toe off than deal that lol. 2 years of Marner ain't worth that, especially considering that we're not contenders.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Edvinsson's surgery was a prevention surgery; he wasnt injured, but was prone to an injury.

Regardless, Marner doesn't make much sense for a team that will not be competiting in his 2 years left.</div></div>

Sieder and Raymond only have 1 year til RFA, better trade them now before they could hold out and demand a trade.
Seriously, sorry for being dramatic but I get tired of seeing the “no no no we can’t trade that for player X, he only had 2 years left!!” He’s not going to fall off the face of the earth in 2 years, work out a contract extension or trade him to get some assets back if it doesn’t work out.
Pretty sure any team that is comfortable with the cap hit would trade a late top 10 pick for Marner. Debrincat went for number 7 and 39 and a third. He had 2 years of control.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 mai 2023 à 13 h 1
Sujet: Marner to Detroit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>Marner makes way too much. Even though he's very good, I think these finals are showing that depth and quality are worth more than super high paid players. There isn't a single team left with a player making MORE than 10m a year and all of those teams, that player is their highest paid. Furthermore, the assets it would take to get him, are a double hit. Detroit needs to just keep building through the draft and if they can add a superstar that makes less than 10m in a trade that makes sense, sure, but otherwise, I'd MUCH rather have two VERY good players making 5m...</div></div>

So you can win with a guy making 10 million but not 10.9? Lol. I think Detroit be just fine with marners cap hit because Larkin is at 8.7. Seider will get a high number but that’s on defence so things are more spread out. Torontos problem has always been half the cap on 4 forwards. They bet that those 4 guys could deliver, seems like they can’t together but Marner could absolutely be a force on a different team in the playoffs. You can win with him, just not sure the leafs can.
Detroit seems in good position to resign him too and good chance he would like it there.

As for the trade cost, hard to say but Detroit has the prospects and picks to give Toronto a nice package, they might have to pay a little more for Toronto to deal him in division. I think it’s one of the more likely destinations.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 mai 2023 à 17 h 34
Sujet: Karlsson an option
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dk325</b></div><div>And this silliness makes it even worse. You have pretty much every response in here telling you this is a terrible proposal and you just stick to your guns as if you know better what a team would go for than it's own fans that actually have a grasp on team needs. Take the feedback and accept that Marner to Columbus for their key young players that they're staking their future on is just not a thing that's going to happen.</div></div>

My first response to the feedback said it would take top prospects for Marner but totally cool if Columbus wouldn’t want to do it? That’s what I meant by it’s just an idea man. I’d like to trade Marner for prospects mostly because I like the flexibility of the cap space, I used Columbus, not a good idea, it’s all good.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 mai 2023 à 17 h 21
Forum: Armchair-GM16 mai 2023 à 16 h 32
Sujet: Karlsson an option
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Konkarsson</b></div><div>plz tell me why cbj would do that? thanks</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>CBJ getting absolutely robbed</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ajp_18</b></div><div>Columbus isn’t moving that much for 2 seasons of Marner, he doesn’t make them a cup contender. Also Marner isn’t resigning with Columbus once he’s a UFA. When Marner was an RFA he basically said he wanted to be a Leaf and was using the potential offersheets to get more money from the leafs.</div></div>

If they were to trade for a top player in the league, it’s not crazy that they have to trade 2 high end prospects and some picks. Totally cool if they wouldn’t want to do it. You can say Marner wouldn’t resign there, no one thought Johnny sign there either. And they didn’t sign him to be in a rebuilt forever. They have other great prospects and the third overall coming in so I think they are in prime position to make a splash.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 mai 2023 à 20 h 25
Forum: Armchair-GM15 mai 2023 à 11 h 43
Sujet: Cant stop trading Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Marked_Difference</b></div><div>AZ trade is laughable. First off, the trade to PIT is not likely so that 2023 1st is not available to trade for Keller and second, Murry is a very expensive cap dump. It would take a 2nd or 1st just to clear his contract.

Once broken down, you want Keller and a 2nd for Robertson. He isn't even worth the 2nd.

The BOS 1st would a reasonable price to dump Murray. His cap hit and 8MM in real money will be a tough sell even for only one year. Maybe Chicago??</div></div>

If it’s not Pittsburgh I’m sure they can trade Marner in a deal that would return assets that could be used to trade for Keller.

Don’t understand the very expensive cap dump for Murray. Mrazek with 2 years 3.8 cost moving down like 10 spots in the draft, why would it take a first or second to dump one year of Murray? Only cost Ottawa a 3rd and 7th to move him last year? Value is prob even more negative with another injured year but only one year instead of 2
Forum: Armchair-GM15 mai 2023 à 11 h 40
Sujet: Cant stop trading Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Haymaker26</b></div><div>I don't think the Penguins will accept.
Marner is a fantastic player and if he goes, he's going to get a King's Ransom. And the price <em>might</em> be fair - although that is already the best winger on the Pens, on top of a 1st and our best prospect.
However, the Penguins have a significant issue with scoring: too many good playmakers and not enough good shooters. Sometimes it's aggravating to watch, especially on the Power Play. So replacing our best sniper with a playmaker - even one of the best in the NHL like Marner - doesn't really fit what the Penguins need the most.
And that's not to mention the nearly $5M increase in cap hit that constrains our ability to improve our depth, which was this team's Achilles' Heel this season.</div></div>

That’s fair! Appreciate the response, just an idea.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 mai 2023 à 15 h 6
Sujet: It has to be Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GladeBang12</b></div><div>We scored the same amount of goals as the team that beat us in the series. Matthew Tkachuk score literally 0 goals this series and Barkov scored just 1. That’s just how hockey is sometimes. Our time will come. The one thing we can’t do is blow up the core. We just have to keep trying until we finally have that miracle run most teams eventually go on.</div></div>

I think a lot of people try to compare our group to Washington and say the break through came for them, it will for us. Just because they finally managed to get past the second round once and then won the cup doesn’t mean it will happen that way for our group.
Sharks were a cup contender for a decade and never won it.
The team that just beat us traded their MVP last year and are better for it.
I’d never just wanna trade Marner for the sake of it but if the right deal is there leaf fans need to get over this core and let’s reset the roster a bit and get back at it.