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Forum: Armchair-GM3 juill. 2023 à 10 h 28

Sujet: Sens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>Detroit declines, we'll sign him for nothing next summer.</div></div>

I'm a Habs/sens fan and that's what we all said about Dubois. He's now a king for the next 8 years lol.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 mars 2023 à 19 h 36

Sujet: Dubois Plan Read Desc

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>I'd 100% be on board for a Florida 2023 first kidney Mailloux and Dvorak</div></div>

I'd be equally fine with that, but I think mailloux is not for trade due to the scandal around him.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 mars 2023 à 19 h 34

Sujet: Dubois Plan Read Desc

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>As a pure rental he gets a 1st and a good prospect minimum. Probably a little more.

How do the Jets lack in the leverage department? Dubois is an RFA with no trade protection. No one can force the Jets to trade Dubois anywhere they don't want to.

The Horvat return is an almost prefect comparable.</div></div>

Jets lack leverage cause at the end of the day, Montreal is where Dubois wants to be, and Montreal wants Dubois. I can't see him agreeing to a contract with Winnipeg that has more than 1 year on it. And I get my trade isnt exactly like the Horvat trade but beauv>hoffman, Florida 1st > Isles 1st, and raty>kidney but Montreal has almost no reason to pay more than rental-like amount for dubois.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 mars 2023 à 19 h 30

Sujet: Dubois Plan Read Desc

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Maybe switch Hoffman to Dvorak as he has a longer cap to help the habs and a C to replace Dubois and add in another b prospect and I'd say that's about right</div></div>

I think the Dvorak injury kinda messes up this idea, but if Winnipeg would be willing to take on an injured Dvorak I'd be all for that if it meant adding another prospect. I just can't see that prospect being Roy.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 mars 2023 à 19 h 27

Sujet: Dubois Plan Read Desc

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jetman</b></div><div>Mike Hoffman isnt as good as Beaulievier (SIC)

Take off your rose coloured glasses</div></div>

I never once said Hoffman was better, or just as good as beauvillier. In fact I think Hoffman is easily the worse of the two. But you also have to consider that vancouver took on Beauv WITH TERM LEFT and were already and will be in cap hell and beauv contributes to that too. Hoffman doesn't impact the jets cap situation nearly as much

Forum: Armchair-GM28 mars 2023 à 19 h 24

Sujet: Dubois Plan Read Desc

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsradynasty</b></div><div>7 not 8 as a UFA. Even if he was your UFA if he officially becomes a UFA you can no longer offer 8.
Example Steven Stamkos that year they had the 4 day period prior to FA players and teams could meet . As Stamkos said after his meeting with Toronto on that Tuesday He walked into Yzerman's office Wednesday morning and told him to get him the most he could include the NMC and make it by our proof for 8 years. Which he had to sign before that Friday or only 7 would be able to get done.</div></div>

Oh right lol I forgot UFA's get 7 years max lol. That's my bad

Forum: Armchair-GM28 mars 2023 à 19 h 23

Sujet: Dubois Plan Read Desc

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>No from Winnipeg. They're not taking back a bad contract and less than they can get for PLD as a rental.

The QO doesn't affect his value at all. You'll need to beat a standard TDL offer and deal with your cap issues on your own.

There's no logical or rational reason for the Jets to take less than they would get for Dubois as a rental.</div></div>

What do you think Dubois is worth as a rental? Because quite honestly I think you overvalue the player a little bit. And you have to remember Winnipeg is kinda lacking in the leverage department in this situation

Forum: Armchair-GM20 mars 2023 à 21 h 46

Sujet: Lottery Sens

I don't understand why we'd make that trade and give brannstrom a 5 year deal when we could just not give brannstrom that contract and keep debrincat.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 mars 2023 à 17 h 21

Sujet: Unlikely this happens but idc

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Every other team in the league beats that Miller offer by a considerable margin.</div></div>

Yeah considering Nils went for a first, Miller is going for a lot more I'd have to imagine

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars 2023 à 16 h 48

Sujet: Value for Edmundson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>"We don't have the space for him". Gee, if the last place Canadians don't have room for him the their top six, why would any team give up anything of value for him.</div></div>

Gee, we have a left side of Matheson/Guhle/Harris/Wifi already, these young players (not including matheson) need to develop and get good ice time, and Edmundson would block that from happening greatly. Edmundson has no term left and a smaller cap hit making him a much easier guy to trade than Matheson would otherwise be. Playing the kids should be a priority for this team throughout their rebuild.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars 2023 à 16 h 0

Sujet: Value for Edmundson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>3rd with 50% retained, 5th if no retention.

His injuries have absolutely tanked his stock, he wasn't even close to being a middle-of-the-road defenseman on a tanking team full of rookie defensemen. I think he plays next season and you hope he rebounds so you can flip him for a 1st at 50% retained.</div></div>

If you wait until next deadline you run the risk of getting nothing for him. But I guess that might be a gamble potentially worth taking. MTL wants to play the kids tho too as soon as possible

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars 2023 à 15 h 46

Sujet: Value for Edmundson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>maybe buffalo too?</div></div>

I think they have enough LHD's already between Dahlin/Power/Samuelsson, but he could be a nice veteran option, maybe they just throw eddy on the right side.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars 2023 à 15 h 39

Sujet: Value for Edmundson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>if its on the offseason, i think his value peaks at a 3rd round pick right now.</div></div>

I think a 3rd is fair. What team does he go to? I thought he could be a fit in Pittsburgh

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars 2023 à 15 h 38

Sujet: Value for Edmundson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Maybe 2nd and 4th</div></div>

Im not sure GM's doing that rn with his injury history. If we wait till next deadline he might not have any value because of his injuries. A 2nd is probably too big of a risk for most GM's. Although ideally as a Habs fan I'd love it if a team would give a second for him :)

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars 2023 à 13 h 8

Sujet: Hart

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>so your just not going to go out and please everybody</div></div>

with the way trades work, not everyone is going to be pleased anyways, even if the trades are on the more logical end if the scale.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars 2023 à 12 h 49

Sujet: Hart

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>yea but i’m not trying to make enemies on here. I’ve had my fair share of really bad takes and people bashing me so i try not to be a jerk.</div></div>

The one thing about this site is that some people are always gonna bash you for a take, especially if that take is wrong. Was i wrong about the Chicago trade? easily. it doesn't need to happen and Chicago can find other likely more effective ways of hitting the floor, and I overvalued the cap hit for Chicago. people overvalue their teams players all the time. those on here who typically bash people's takes never post their own, or get bashed for their takes when they do post them. Cause the reality is, ACGM is completely hypothetical, and while some ACGM's are more realistic/well thought out than others, there's always going to be someone mad about a trade or idea anyways.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 mars 2023 à 20 h 16

Sujet: Hart

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>that’s a thin thin possibility but yea to me best real case senario is Smith, or Dvorsky but both are really good top 6 potential guys. and you have more than the guys i mentioned too but those are the bigger names.</div></div>

Yeah smith would be nice too but an all Slovak line of slak-dvorsky-mesar would go crazy in the future.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 mars 2023 à 20 h 12

Sujet: Hart

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>Hart offer is more than fair IMO and with suzuki Caulfield Slaf and whoever you pick this year the team has a super strong young forward group with Hart and a few solid D your rebuild will look really positive long term</div></div>

yeah I put Dvorsky in but if MTL wins the lottery then then obviously go for bedard/fantilli/carlsson

Forum: Armchair-GM17 mars 2023 à 20 h 10

Sujet: Hart

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>Your arguement is silly, Chicago would demand picks in return for “helping” montreal out of a situation. sorry but it’s buisness and helping you guys free up cap space will cost you.
just like Monahan cost a 1st to move to you guys last year. fair is fair and you’ve weponized your cap space in the past now your turn to pay up.</div></div>

With the way LTIR works, price going on LTIR will just allow Chicago to spend 10.5 million over the salary cap, so it'll still count as a cap hit for them to hit the floor but doesn't cost them actual cap room.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 mars 2023 à 20 h 6

Sujet: Hart

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>I would rather keep the picks and Monty and find out if Monty has hit his stride. He was once a highly touted prospect so maybe it just took him longer to put it together.</div></div>

That's valid, maybe Montreal waits another year to trade for Hart because we can't trade Allen this offseason due to his extension.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 mars 2023 à 19 h 46

Sujet: Hart

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsradynasty</b></div><div>Why is Chicago not getting picks too Price does zero for them other than cost the owner real dollars,so that costs Hoffman is a cap dump so ,that costs they are paying for 2 negative assets 😅</div></div>

Hawks are like 20 mill from hitting the floor next year, so imo the Price contract is an asset to them to help them hit the floor, and Hoffman is just the price they pay for it.

Forum: Armchair-GM1 sept. 2022 à 21 h 15

Sujet: Lundkvist

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYRxLundqvist</b></div><div>Longer they wait less they get. You're gunna get your best offer when the team acquiring gets a full year vs 20 games and playoffs for a TDL acquisition</div></div>

But other teams are going to get more desperate for his services at the deadline, once they evaluate where their teams are at and what their needs are. For pretty much every team interested in Kane, they're already playoff bound with their current team. All that matters is adding for the playoffs.

Forum: Armchair-GM1 sept. 2022 à 21 h 6

Sujet: Lundkvist

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYRxLundqvist</b></div><div>The "rumor" that Kane want either NYR or EDM so if he true wants to go for another cup and want one of these teams I the he would accept it... but it's just my perspective</div></div>

But the Hawks have no reason to trade him now and they probably wait for the best offer they can get, which I imagine won't be now. Davidson is going to look to get the most as physically possible for Kane.

Forum: Armchair-GM1 sept. 2022 à 20 h 52

Sujet: Lundkvist

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYRxLundqvist</b></div><div>Rangers need a game changer not more of what they already have</div></div>

I doubt that the Rangers are pulling off a huge game changing move between now and training camp involving Lundkvist especially with minimal cap space. Hawks probably are holding out until the deadline to move Kane, Canucks similarly with Miller who they might not even trade at all or extend. So I'm not sure where you're finding this game changer before training camp starts which Lundkvist ideally is gone by according to Drury.

Forum: Armchair-GM27 août 2022 à 15 h 25

Sujet: Oilers No P Kane Read Desc

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>B_seka17</b></div><div>Swap the 2024 first with 2023 first and the Flyers accept</div></div>

then the second has to be 2024 as well. Oilers shouldn't go without selecting in the first 2 rounds in 2023.

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